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Well,I think there’s a serious point in there somewhere!

I’m doing good Rob, yourself ?

Jon

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On 6/13/2018 at 7:55 AM, rsrandazzo said:

Danny,

You have room in your house for all of us to live if we did that?  :cool:  Oh, and you have to have room for the dog... 

 

Will you agree for shared bunks?

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3 hours ago, joona_ said:

Will you agree for shared bunks?

That’s affirmative.😁but i have to add a extra storey to the house.😉

Danny.

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On 6/12/2018 at 9:55 PM, rsrandazzo said:

Danny,

You have room in your house for all of us to live if we did that?  :cool:  Oh, and you have to have room for the dog... 

 

move to the north: zombies cant survive and you wont be far from Jason ....

 

funny to think about fs98 and Rob and Jason, those guys were already there .... we re not getting younger ...

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8 hours ago, jon b said:

X-plane and P3D are like testicles , one is not better than the other and both should be loved and cherished equally, because it’ll be a sad day if you ever wake up one morning and find one is missing.

Jon Bunting

 

But one is always higher than the other 🙂It’s true, and i know some of you will check your balls after reading this 😄 

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Robert, do think you will have any planes for XP11 (if you do decide to realease anything to XP) this year or should we be expecting something only fpr 2019?

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On 6/13/2018 at 9:57 PM, Ephedrin said:

the problem until now has always been that it locks out developers who want to code outside of the XP-given possibilities. In P3D you can write applications that run beside P3D and take all the calculations outside of the core. In XP you have to use what's there but can't do the same as with P3D. So things like Accusim or what PMDG have done to override for example the ground model would not be possible with XP.. At least for now. To improve this LR could open those limitations so developers can use XP as a visual platform but create their "own simulator" in the background. 

This statement is surprising me a bit.

The FF A320 does all of its calculations outside X-Plane.

Things like REP (in approach similar to AccuSim, albeit not yet in scope) do a lot of their simulation in their own plugins, overriding X-Plane's own limitations.

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PMDG would indeed be an asset to the X-Plane community. They offer well-polished products in P3D/FSX and would be more than welcome in X-Plane.

 

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PMDG with FSX/P3D is like "Across 110th Street" 

Unless You get hanged to it, you dont need it.

 

My very best regards,

 

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Robert, do you think you will have PMDG products availiable (If you do make any decisions) for XP 11 this year, or should we just expect something to be out by 2019?

Miguel,

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1 hour ago, migueldeus said:

Robert, do you think you will have PMDG products availiable (If you do make any decisions) for XP 11 this year, or should we just expect something to be out by 2019?

Miguel,

Miguel, full names in the PMDG forums please.  Also, read his first post carefully... they have not yet even determined when the work starts.  Quote: I'll let you know once we have a clearer idea when to expect this product to be available. End Quote.  Out by 2019 isn't even a guess yet.

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If only I could run xplane properly.  It’s no surprise so many are jumping ship to xplane. Aircraft and addon development  in p3d is excruciatingly slow.

 

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I made these two videos using the rudimentary 737 that comes with XP   The third party community has made some amazing sceneries.  I just need a PMDG 737 to fully enjoy XP 🙂

 

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On 6/16/2018 at 12:06 AM, migueldeus said:

Robert, do you think you will have PMDG products availiable (If you do make any decisions) for XP 11 this year, or should we just expect something to be out by 2019?

Miguel,

I would be thrilled if it would come out in 2020. Those things take time...

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On 6/13/2018 at 1:50 PM, rsrandazzo said:

Ben came over and started off with words to the effect of, "how can we work together to make this easier?"

I have followed the development of x-plane for a long time, and had been worried. We all know there are fans for all kinds of products, but when the leader of a company several times through many years always comparing his products with others, there's often reason to look up.

But I would say that this sentence from Ben is the single most important development Laminar has ever done. It seems that they are also getting matured and taking important steps for the future. I really wish there was more people like Ben everywhere, not only in flight sim business. That makes big hope for the future.

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On 7/2/2018 at 7:34 PM, Luis_KMIA said:

I made these two videos using the rudimentary 737 that comes with XP   The third party community has made some amazing sceneries.  I just need a PMDG 737 to fully enjoy XP 🙂

 

Have you tried the freeware mods for this aircraft by Zibo and AudiobirdXP?

Check out flightdeck2sim Youtube channel - as well as loads of NGX videos he's started doing Zibo 737 videos as well now so you can see (and hear) what it's like. It's not NGX level but it is still pretty good, and the developers are improving it all the time. And those FMOD sounds effects... 😎

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6 hours ago, captain_alligator said:

Have you tried the freeware mods for this aircraft by Zibo and AudiobirdXP?

Check out flightdeck2sim Youtube channel - as well as loads of NGX videos he's started doing Zibo 737 videos as well now so you can see (and hear) what it's like. It's not NGX level but it is still pretty good, and the developers are improving it all the time. And those FMOD sounds effects... 😎

Thanks for the info!

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11 hours ago, captain_alligator said:

It's not NGX level but it is still pretty good, and the developers are improving it all the time. And those FMOD sounds effects... 😎

Give it more development time, cannot help but feel it'll end up superior. Most amazing of all, it's free 😉 

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I find it amusingly frustrating how fast it gets up dated, almost everyday or every other day, I can’t keep up 😛. Currently the zibo is a great alternative to the NGX but I still miss the PMDG quality/details in XP

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On ‎6‎/‎13‎/‎2018 at 12:17 PM, rsrandazzo said:

Anubhav,

The DC-6 was designed to give us a technical study, not a market study.  We already know that the XPL community of high-end sim users is very much smaller than it is in the FSX/P3D world.  We have plenty of data from other sources to show buying habits, etc.

 

Robert,

Interesting comment.  This is it to the current real world discussions regarding equipage for PBN, ADS-B, Datacomm, etc.  Like that voice from the heavens said in Iowa, "If you build it, they will come".  

I've been a customer of PMDG products since the first B737 and of study level sims in the MS platform since B767 PIC.  Before these, it was PS1. For those of us that seek quality aircraft that are true training devices, the quality of the add-on drives the choice of simulator platforms, not the other way around.  It is for this reason, I have not migrated to X-Plane even though I believe it is a better simulator platform. 

For example, V1 cuts are much more realistic in X-Plane than in FSX or P3D.  Level D 767 the only sim that somehow managed to come close to replicating the yaw and roll coupling that occurs with swept wing airplane following an engine failure in FSX.  A V1 cut or engine failure just liftoff is vastly different and more realistic using iXEG B737-300 in X-Plane than using NGX in P3Dv4.  And I have all the toys to make it a realistic as possible.  This is not intended as a slam against NGX, but that rather acknowledgement of what appears to be known limitations of the FSX/P3D platform.  However, iXEG's 737-300 is found wanting in many other areas (e.g., FMS modeling). Same is true for the Zimbo B737 mod.  Both of these are no where close to the level of realism provided by NGX. I have shied away from X-Plane simply because there are no products that rise to the level of PMDG's, perhaps save Flight Factor's Airbus.  I'm not an Airbus aficionado. 

What I am trying to say is that you might be surprised by the level migration to X-Plane should PMDG break into that market.  The DC-6 was a novelty.  Introducing the NGX into X-Plane would really test the market.  

Food for thought.  Thanks again for being the leader in the flight simulator add-on development.

Best regards,

Rich Boll

Wichita KS 

 

 

 

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On 9/20/2018 at 11:22 PM, 747Chief said:

Thanks for the update.

Just made switch from fsx to x plane 11 and wont be purchasing anymore products for fsx. Since the dev is going to take forever for x plane may have to start looking at other options for future purchases. Which is sad, I absolutely love pmdg products and understand producing your quality products take some time, but I am not waiting years and years for you guys to dev a 747 for x plane. 

The prospect of X-planes future, in iterations to come - quarters/years to come, unfortunately makes me swerve "ANY" future products for P3D. Dead money, but hey hoe, live and let live. The difference already is night and day. Switched to X-plane fully about 5 months ago giving P3D pleanty of affection and chances but once you try X-plane fully loaded and get used to it its just life changing for my hobby needs, decision made. 

This isn't a bash at PMDG. It's just how this simmer feels and chooses to follow as he deems it the best option for his simming future. Thanks for the memories PMDG. 

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I changed to X-Plane now and am really excited.
For me, that's the future.
It's also nice that more and more developers are joining X-Plane, who used to say, "we will not do anything for X-Plane"
HiFi and ORBX and FlyTampa are now also at the start.
Until the release of the 737 or 747 or 777 of PMDG at X-Plane, I first use the B737-800X (ZIBO mod).

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