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46 minutes ago, Ray Proudfoot said:

Hi Dave. I’ve been giving some thought to UHD displays. Originally I was going to substitute my Sony 32” 1920*1080 TV for a BenQ 32” UHD monitor but the price is enormous. Around 800UKP.

Those monitors are really for critical colour work for photographers but for simming I’m coming around to the idea that a decent quality UHD TV is fine. I’ve been pointed to the Samsung MU6700, a 40” display which critically has support for 4:4:4 which makes text very crisp. That’s essential when doing Windows maintenance etc. Rob alludes to this in his pinned topic above.

I’ll be sitting around 3-4ft from the display and feel a 40” would be just about right. So your comment was especially welcome. The larger screens would make you look up more and that could be a neck problem for some.

How do you find the sound TVs compared to separate speakers and a sub? I’d need to clear the desk and I suspect the speakers &sub would have to go.

Good call my friend!  The sound quality of 4Ks is often pretty darned good, but I still prefer the sound of my Logitech Speakers as the woofer provides a much better base sound.

 


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3 minutes ago, DaveCT2003 said:

Good call my friend!  The sound quality of 4Ks is often pretty darned good, but I still prefer the sound of my Logitech Speakers as the woofer provides a much better base sound.

I suspect for space reasons the speakers will have to go, pity but not the end of the world compared to what I’ll be gaining. I can’t go mad with the sound anyway as I have neighbours on the other side of the wall. The sub needs the speakers to work.

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I have two 4K displays on my (largish) desk.  A Sony 49 inch UHD wich I use almost exclusively for P3D (and watching TV) plus a Phillips 40 inch 4K monitor that I use for everything else.  The TV is just too big and fuzzy (even at 4K & 4:4:4) for non simming PC stuff.  So if you have just one screen I wouldn't recommend a TV (at least not one larger than 40 inch)..

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I'm not going to argue with you guys ad you've made up your minds about what size is optimal for your simming pleasure but I will say that my 58" 4k Pani is absolutely sharp and clear and I do all kinds of detailed graphics oriented work with that screen in addition to simming. Further, every Sony set I've used directly connected to my PC with HDMI did some weird resolution downscaling which made it quite useless as a PC monitor. I suspect this some sort of anti video piracy thing Sony did. Only when I had an HDMI intermediary (a sound bar which sat between the PC and the Sony) did it work right. Possibly that's why your Sony looks poor Bruce? 


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21 hours ago, brucewtb said:

I have two 4K displays on my (largish) desk.  A Sony 49 inch UHD wich I use almost exclusively for P3D (and watching TV) plus a Phillips 40 inch 4K monitor that I use for everything else.  The TV is just too big and fuzzy (even at 4K & 4:4:4) for non simming PC stuff.  So if you have just one screen I wouldn't recommend a TV (at least not one larger than 40 inch)..

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My 43" 4K Wasbi Monitor looks sharp! I do a lot of photo editing besides simming and gaming. + it's the perfect size for watching movies, etc.... Philips has a new 43", 4K HDR monitor that should be releasing any day now. I can't wait can't wait to get my hand on that ! What I really want is 8K HDR monitor in the 40ish size! 


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I borrowed an LG 38UC99 that runs at 3840x1600 (109 dpi). Because of the high pixel density I found it easy to turn down the AA AAF settings and still have a crisp display. Coming from an old 1920x1200 display (94 dpi) it looks amazing. I was afraid my GTX 970 would not handle it but the FPS rate loss is negligible - if at all. I also turned off VSync in P3DV4.

So much more immersive. I just need to find the money to actually buy one

Hope this helps 🙂

 

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It would be helpful if those with 40"+ displays said how far from the screen they sit. I sit around 3ft from my 32" 1920*1080 TV and will be sitting the same distance from a possible 40" UHD TV.


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2 hours ago, Ray Proudfoot said:

It would be helpful if those with 40"+ displays said how far from the screen they sit. I sit around 3ft from my 32" 1920*1080 TV and will be sitting the same distance from a possible 40" UHD TV.

I have a 40" 4k display and sit 36 inches from screen I also had glasses made for viewing from that distance(kind of like reading glasses). You will be fine. I'm will be going to Three 40" 4 k displays but need to wait for the next generation of video cards because a 1080ti cant run 3 displays in 4k very well. You will love the bigger display I'm also using a Samsung too.   Josh

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58" Screen, sitting 32" to 36" typically, zoom around 0.65 in VC (wide view) with TIR.


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Thanks Josh, that confirms the distance is about right.

@odourboy, that feels a little uncomfortable irrespective of the zoom factor. But I guess we're all different since you would continue with it were it uncomfortable.

What's the image quality like if you downscale to 1920*1080? I would need that for Concorde-X until a 64-bit version is available. Acceptable or not?

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3 hours ago, Ray Proudfoot said:

 

@odourboy, that feels a little uncomfortable irrespective of the zoom factor. But I guess we're all different since you would continue with it were it uncomfortable.

I'm curious what it is about this set up that you would find uncomfortable ?


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2 hours ago, odourboy said:

I'm curious what it is about this set up that you would find uncomfortable ?

Being so close to such a huge screen. That is 3” larger than my lounge TV and I sit 8ft from that.


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1 hour ago, Ray Proudfoot said:

Being so close to such a huge screen. That is 3” larger than my lounge TV and I sit 8ft from that.

Okay.. you call it uncomfortable, I call it emursive LOL! FWIW, I made a custom stand that places the monitor lower than a desktop so that my eye level is a little above the half way point. Instruments are below, wind screen straight ahead. No comfort issues here. 😊 


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1 hour ago, odourboy said:

Okay.. you call it uncomfortable, I call it emursive LOL! FWIW, I made a custom stand that places the monitor lower than a desktop so that my eye level is a little above the half way point. Instruments are below, wind screen straight ahead. No comfort issues here. 😊 

Fair enough. It wasn’t meant as a criticism, just an observation. As I said earlier you are clearly comfortable with it otherwise you’d change.

It would certainly be immersive. I thought that when I went from 24” to 32” but the longer you have something the smaller it appears. You’ll be on a 65” in 5 years. :wink:


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I have a 65" Samsung TV and I sit around 3 feet from it. I like it, no problems with pixel size. Very immersive!

 


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