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Do we need a compatibility update for it to work with the now released P3D v 4.3?

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4 minutes ago, B777ER said:

Do we need a compatibility update for it to work with the now released P3D v 4.3?

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PTA2 is not compatible yet, but you could try if the Shaders are :

 

1 Make a backup of your modified ShadersHLSL folder in 4.2

2 Restore the 4.2 Shaders  and make a backup of the 4.2 ShadersHLSL folder

3 Uninstall 4.2 Client and reinstall 4.3 client

4 Make a backup of your default 4.3 ShadersHLSL folder

5 Copy your saved 4.2 ShadersHLSL folder into 4.3

 

Start P3D 4.3 and see how it looks. If it looks good than leave it as you have your modified Shaders working. If it does not look good remove the 4.2 ShadersHLSL folder and copy back the default 4.2 one

I am at work so do not have the time to test today.

 

 

 

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Thanks, Gerard! I may just wait to see if Matt updates PTA quickly - but this looks like a workaround worth trying for us impatient ones!

Adam.

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meh, I'll wait. hopefully it's not too long

 

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5 hours ago, GSalden said:

PTA2 is not compatible yet, but you could try if the Shaders are :

 

1 Make a backup of your modified ShadersHLSL folder in 4.2

2 Restore the 4.2 Shaders  and make a backup of the 4.2 ShadersHLSL folder

3 Uninstall 4.2 Client and reinstall 4.3 client

4 Make a backup of your default 4.3 ShadersHLSL folder

5 Copy your saved 4.2 ShadersHLSL folder into 4.3

 

Start P3D 4.3 and see how it looks. If it looks good than leave it as you have your modified Shaders working. If it does not look good remove the 4.2 ShadersHLSL folder and copy back the default 4.2 one

I am at work so do not have the time to test today.

 

 

 

Thanks for the tip. I'm confident Matt will update PTA asap. I hope he has recovered from the surgery and feels well.

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Just out of curiosity when PTA does get updated...what do I do?

reinstall back up .2 shaders 

install P3D V4.3 

install update PTA

back up shaders again with the .3 shaders

reapply my PTA  preset then done?

that correct ?

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27 minutes ago, paulwain said:

Just out of curiosity when PTA does get updated...what do I do?

reinstall back up .2 shaders 

install P3D V4.3 

install update PTA

back up shaders again with the .3 shaders

reapply my PTA  preset then done?

that correct ?

Correct . When PTA for 4.3 has been released this is the way.

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From what I've been reading P3Dv4.3 looks substantially different to previous versions, especially with regards to lighting and reflections, so I would suggest holding fire on shoving in the old PTA shaders and old PTA presets as they may actually looks worse. Perhaps await a few screenshots of vanilla v4.3 and see what you rekon?

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Thanks but I guess I'll wait for Matt. I hope he is fairly quick with an update. 

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By the way, I wonder if we'll see also get any content updates for PTA, meaning new features. It seems to be only getting compatibly updates since its release. The original developer of PTA seemed to be updating its core often. At least this is what I remember, correct me if wrong.

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4 minutes ago, Daedalus said:

By the way, I wonder if we'll see also get any content updates for PTA, meaning new features. It seems to be it only getting compatibly updates since its release.

Unfortunately it seems PTA development is quite dead... still great powerful tool though. Hopefully well get an update for 4.3 at least... i wounder as a well how it will work now with the lighting/ambient changes LM did. 

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I'm not sure PTA development is dead ... Matt posted just a few days ago to reassure us that it's still on his radar.

**Anyway** ... I just confirmed that I'm a total update junkie. I simply can't wait to install the very latest update/patch/fix. Unsurprisingly, I went for broke and updated to P3Dv4.3.

GOOD NEWS!

Thanks to Gerard for reminding us of the shaders kludge. After only the briefest test flight, everything looks just as it did in P3Dv4.2 (PTA-wise). I haven't tried any night lighting (yet) and I haven't checked to see if any of the more complicated functions work - but my 261_03 preset appears to be behaving itself so far.

I've yet to re-install all my sky/cloud/ground textures (I use REX), so my P3D still has a little way to go graphically ... so that's next.

1) ORBX: update FTX Central and re-apply the Global Elevations (if you have FTX Global).

2) Chaseplane: seems to have updated itself pretty promptly (!!!). Works for me, anyway!

3) FSUIPC: the latest P3Dv4.2 compatible version appears to work fine.

4) PTA: Applying/editing presets won't work yet (the familiar "wrong P3D version" error), so use Gerard's tip (above).

It's great to have the old Captain Sim C-130 as a default freebie!

Adam.

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39 minutes ago, Adamski_NZ said:

**Anyway** ... I just confirmed that I'm a total update junkie.

😄 LOL

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Here's one with all my REX textures added:

p3dv43_a2a_p40_rangitoto_799_1350.jpg?dl

It seems a little murkier than before, so I may need to tweak my HDR values a little. Of course - it could just be the weather!!!

I used the A2A P-40 just to test whether the older/legacy WOP3 models work (they do!!).

Adam.

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3 minutes ago, Adamski_NZ said:

Here's one with all my REX textures added:

p3dv43_a2a_p40_rangitoto_799_1350.jpg?dl

It seems a little murkier than before, so I may need to tweak my HDR values a little. Of course - it could just be the weather!!!

I used the A2A P-40 just to test whether the older/legacy WOP3 models work (they do!!).

Adam.

Do you really see any ambient/lighting differences ? So far a lot of people made a big fuzz about how it 100 times more beautiful then 4.2 

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2 minutes ago, roi1862 said:

Do you really see any ambient/lighting differences ? So far a lot of people made a big fuzz about how it 100 times more beautiful then 4.2 

I can't see any difference at all ... but then I might not - seeing as I've just replaced the new shaders with old P3Dv4.2 ones to test PTA.

Now I know the temporary PTA workaround works, I may restore the proper P3Dv4.3 shaders to see if I can spot anything.

Adam.

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2 minutes ago, Adamski_NZ said:

I can't see any difference at all ... but then I might not - seeing as I've just replaced the new shaders with old P3Dv4.2 ones to test PTA.

Now I know the temporary PTA workaround works, I may restore the proper P3Dv4.3 shaders to see if I can spot anything.

Adam.

Great Adam ! will wait for your finding !

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1 minute ago, roi1862 said:

Great Adam ! will wait for your finding !

The only things that stops me rushing to go back to the proper P3Dv4.3 shaders are the dreaded "popcorn" clouds (still not fixed) and terrible water. PTA really helps with both of those.

Adam.

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1 hour ago, Daedalus said:

By the way, I wonder if we'll see also get any content updates for PTA, meaning new features. It seems to be only getting compatibly updates since its release. The original developer of PTA seemed to be updating its core often. At least this is what I remember, correct me if wrong.

I doubt it, he appears to be stretched thin with all his projects. https://mettarsim.com/

He is rarely around here posting anymore much less I think developing enhancements for PTA. I am curious to know how long it will take for him to even acknowledge that he is working on a version 4.3 update. For many this is "must have" software for P3D much like a wx program. That's why I paid money for it and am waiting to update to 4.3 until this is ready. I hope/wish he understood it's importance to many members of the community and treated it accordingly. 

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Double post. Thank you forum software.

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Just now, Adamski_NZ said:

The only things that stops me rushing to go back to the proper P3Dv4.3 shaders are the dreaded "popcorn" clouds (still not fixed) and terrible water. PTA really helps with both of those.

Adam.

They simply refuse to fix some things looks like. Same with shadows disappear as you pan.

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P3Dv4.2 also had the Lighting/Shadows  a little different from earlier versions.

Therefore I had to modify my All Months  preset set which I released 2 days ago.

I will try it tomorrow with V4.3.

 

@Adam : looking good 😃

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going back to v4.2, if all add-on stable i move to v4.3, i really need PTA 

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There are some fantastic assumptions/conspiracies in this thread. All I will say is unless it comes from the horses mouth (i.e. me), don't believe it. 

There should be an update for Prepar3D v4.3 in the next few days.

As far as new features and other improvements, without saying too much, PTA will be evolving into something significantly better in the not too distant future. The focus of the tool will be more than just shader tweaking. 

I know I'm not very active on here but I am a 1 man band doing the job of about 20 people. I am spread very thin at the moment but it will all be worth it in the end 🙂

If you need anything urgently, use the contact form on the website - it goes straight to my phone. I reply to everyone that needs legitimate help. 

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