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Tomato Shade Update out for 4.3

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Howdy Fellow Captains,

Just a head's up, Tomato Shade has been updated to work with 4.3.  Just remember to restore original shaders before installing the 4.3 client and running the updated version of Tomato Shade.  I made the mistake of forgetting to do that and it created some error messages.  If you updated the client already, roll it back, restore original shaders, then reinstall 4.3 client, re-apply whatever shader presets being used and everything should work fine.  I also had to reinstall the reflections.  In any case, this is great news, and a good alternative to PTA while Matt works on an update.

Cheers,

John

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do you have a link ehere to download ?

Thanks, Carsten

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8 minutes ago, RTK1972 said:

do you have a link ehere to download ?

Thanks, Carsten

in Tomato Shade > General > Check for a new version and version 23 is latest

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2 minutes ago, jonFezza said:

in Tomato Shade > General > Check for a new version and version 23 is latest

Sorry Jon i meant where i can download the Tomato shade program, i only find their presets for pta or am i totally wrong ?

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Is tomato shade some sort of sweetfx, enb tweak? Does it work for those of us who use PTA?

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LOL, when I try to click on that download, My chrome tells me, Tomato shade isn't downloaded much and could be dangerous - ask me to discard or keep.

Hence I did not Download at all

 

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10 minutes ago, Skywolf said:

LOL, when I try to click on that download, My chrome tells me, Tomato shade isn't downloaded much and could be dangerous - ask me to discard or keep.

Hence I did not Download at all

 

Okay?

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1 minute ago, Sethos1988 said:

Okay?

It is very strange, why is Chrome giving me a warning.  It never gave me that before.  Just saying (I should have been clear on my previous thread)

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2 minutes ago, Skywolf said:

It is very strange, why is Chrome giving me a warning.  It never gave me that before.  Just saying (I should have been clear on my previous thread)

Sounds like a generic message of some function that checks how often something is downloaded. Of course a .zip off of a dropbox, for a private shader mod project for a flight sim, won't be very high on that list.

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Just now, Sethos1988 said:

Sounds like a generic message of some function that checks how often something is downloaded. Of course a .zip off of a dropbox, for a private shader mod project for a flight sim be very high on any list.

Ah...that makes sense.  Thanks

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Wow, what a fabulous piece of software. Thanks very much for this, PTA is in the recycle bin for the time being

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What are the advantages of Tomatoe Shade vs PTA other than the fact that it's free?

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I use ENVSHADE, could I also install tomato shade?.

 

will it improve anything?

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51 minutes ago, captain420 said:

What are the advantages of Tomatoe Shade vs PTA other than the fact that it's free?

I’m curious as well what the differences are.

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16 minutes ago, ozflyer said:

I use ENVSHADE, could I also install tomato shade?.

 

will it improve anything?

No. They are both suites that modify shaders within the ShadersHLSL folder. Not compatible with PTA either.

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The obvious advantage of tomato shade over PTA is that it enables dynamic PBR-like reflections. The drawback for me is that the performance hit was too big. However because I see many people use it for their flights, there should be a set of parameters in tomato shade that could relieve the performance hit. However, I haven't seen so far any guide of how to tune tomato shade. This would be very welcome to have from someone expert on the app.

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I've also been using PTA since day one, but went with tomato shade after seeing how it transforms reflections.  However, it doesn't have all of the features of PTA, and at the end of the day, aside from the reflections, I really don't see any big difference between the two. 

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On 6/26/2018 at 5:57 PM, dal330200 said:

Howdy Fellow Captains,

Just a head's up, Tomato Shade has been updated to work with 4.3.  Just remember to restore original shaders before installing the 4.3 client and running the updated version of Tomato Shade.  I made the mistake of forgetting to do that and it created some error messages.  If you updated the client already, roll it back, restore original shaders, then reinstall 4.3 client, re-apply whatever shader presets being used and everything should work fine.  I also had to reinstall the reflections.  In any case, this is great news, and a good alternative to PTA while Matt works on an update.

Cheers,

John

You do know that the P3D Content installer (and client) install default shaders anyway? (unless you only wanna update client)

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Tomato is great for the flight sim paparazzi, ie screen shots, YT videos, and for those who like to stare at their plane all day.

For general use, stick with PTA or Envshade.

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14 minutes ago, ZKOKQ said:

Tomato is great for the flight sim paparazzi, ie screen shots, YT videos, and for those who like to stare at their plane all day.

For general use, stick with PTA or Envshade.

How do you reach that conclusion, when TomatoShade is a suite that offers tweaking and presets just like PTA? Envshade you can't even tweak.

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12 minutes ago, Sethos1988 said:

How do you reach that conclusion, when TomatoShade is a suite that offers tweaking and presets just like PTA? Envshade you can't even tweak.

Tomato only does mostly reflections. Read my post again, slowly.

Edit: I never mentioned you could tweak Envshade, I own it and PTA. Please don't put words in my mouth.

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1 minute ago, Sethos1988 said:

Envshade you can't even tweak.

That's true, but for most people it does the job. I spent a lot of time tweaking with PTA and using canned presets. The difference between any of those and Envshade was not worth my effort.

The nice thing about Tomato Shade is its  dynamic reflection editor. It's not PBR but it comes close to making P3d aircraft really shine, so to speak.

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8 minutes ago, ZKOKQ said:

Tomato only does mostly reflections. Read my post again, slowly.

That's not even true. Perhaps you should use it before making such statements.

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