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Obviously there are issues with it,aerosoft have been upfront about that.so anyone who bought it was aware of that. i've been using it all the time and get from A-B without any problems.like all software it gets better over time.look at the FSL bus it was heavily critisized for it's performance issues,now after quite a while they seem to have got on top of that.I am not that much of a systems guy so the Aerosoft bus is great for me and so far i'm very happy with it.Performance,Realight ,Trueglass and the modelling are very nicely done.so well done to Aerosoft 🙂

 

 steve

 

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12 minutes ago, Nuno Pinto said:

 but the product is way too unusable to be released.

I did not see your account on the buyers list. Care to explain how you came to this conclusion? 

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1 minute ago, Flyer024 said:

I did not see your account on the buyers list. Care to explain how you came to this conclusion? 

You know people know people, right?

So i guess i don't need to explain some of those people buy addons and you can come over to their house and test them (mostly like i did with the CRJ and thank God i did). Your attitude on the other hand is hard to explain.

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How can you say it's unstable Nuno ,like i said in my previous post i use it all the time and have no issues with it.a recent hotfix also solved some issues.did your friend have that installed??.you leave your self open to critisizm by saying things like that with only a short amount of time with it.

 

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1 hour ago, Nuno Pinto said:

Your attitude on the other hand is hard to explain.

Agreed!

The attitude in here sometimes baffles me... I don't know why you need to publicize your receipt, for an addon, for it to be justified to make your observation. Especially since it's not equal for all! If the review had been positive, I bet no one would have demanded for proof of purchase...

Makes you wonder...

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Anders you would want to know when someone says  "  but the product is way too unusable to be released " that they have

1 bought it

2 tested it extensively

3 not just said it because of hearsay.

4 or said it after half an hour (or more)on a friends computer.

it needs to be an informed opinion.Flyer024 is a real bus pilot.if he says it's a good simulation that needs an sp1.then thats all i need to hear.and please remember all the patches FSL have had to get it to where it is now.

 

 take care

    steve:-)

 

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I just think it would be beneficial for the readers here if Nuno really tested the AS bus at his friend’s to give us a bit more information. People here are looking for reviews and opinions and just saying it is way to unusable is imo a bit too little on the information side of things.

I do not care if he writes 1000 words about how bad it is, that is his opinion and that is ok. But I do care to see a few more words than just “way too unusable” I also do not demand a proof of purchase, I can see that info all by myself. I just hope people can come here and get informed opinions by people who actually flew the product and instead of throwing around one-liners invest some time to inform the community here. 

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Absolutely Flyer.unfortunately some people have very short memories and quickly forget how long their favourite software took to become what it is now.there are also quite few people here who just say things to stir up a row.myself i'm very happy with the Aerosoft bus(i waited a long time for it)and i know it will get any issues sorted out quickly.A hotfix has already been put out.

good luck with its release

     steve

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@Flyer024: forgive me my ignorance , but are you somehow involved in the development of the aerosoft airbus series? I just ask to better understand your reactions on this topic.

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yes he is involved,also a real bus pilot.i know who  i'd listen too.:-)

 

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Hey Jos,

I am one of the beta testers of the AS bus and a forum mod at AS. As I do not get paid for my services I am also not listed as a commercial person here. I also refrain from using my real name here for personal reasons. 

And the part that disqualifies me the most; 5000 hrs on an RW CRJ and 6500 on various Airbuses. 😉 

Cheers

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5 hours ago, steve howlett said:

Anders you would want to know when someone says  "  but the product is way too unusable to be released " that they have

1 bought it

2 tested it extensively

3 not just said it because of hearsay.

4 or said it after half an hour (or more)on a friends computer.

it needs to be an informed opinion.Flyer024 is a real bus pilot.if he says it's a good simulation that needs an sp1.then thats all i need to hear.and please remember all the patches FSL have had to get it to where it is now.

 

 take care

    steve:-)

 

You don't need much time to infer the addon is (at present) unusable unfortunately, this is why i said "three or four months more".

So that "tested extensively" doesn't even apply here.

 

If Flyer024 is a real Airbus pilot that doesn't make the addon better or worse, i do see him defending it as if it was the next best thing and right now: It's not. It might be someday, NOW it's not.

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Guys - so far this has been a good thread - if we keep up the "sniping" at each other, it will get shut down quickly.

Let's stay with expressing your opinion on the a/c and not on the poster.

 

Vic

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I am reading posts on other forums and I am going to look at big streamers later today after my job, but it does look like the unrealistic A318 modeling of fuel and engine thrust is not fixed. Too bad.

The old A318 you could fill up using correct numbers but it never climbed at a realistic rate and used too much fuel. I find the same bugs in people's posts talking about the updated version.

I'd like an alternative to the other Airbus since I am banned thanks to the kind CEO for finding too many bugs on the fsx original release and upsetting his programming talent.

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5 hours ago, Flyer024 said:

Hey Jos,

I am one of the beta testers of the AS bus and a forum mod at AS. As I do not get paid for my services I am also not listed as a commercial person here. I also refrain from using my real name here for personal reasons. 

And the part that disqualifies me the most; 5000 hrs on an RW CRJ and 6500 on various Airbuses. 😉 

Cheers

Thank you. That makes your valuable comments much clearer for me.

Jos

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2 hours ago, Nuno Pinto said:

You don't need much time to infer the addon is (at present) unusable unfortunately, this is why i said "three or four months more".

So that "tested extensively" doesn't even apply here.

 

If Flyer024 is a real Airbus pilot that doesn't make the addon better or worse, i do see him defending it as if it was the next best thing and right now: It's not. It might be someday, NOW it's not.

if it's unusable,how am i able to use it without any problems??i'm using it exclusively on every flight i do and i've had no problems with it.it goes from A-B flying down the ILS to a smooth landing.you know sometimes people just can't stand being wrong nuno and you are one of them.and the joke about this conversation is ..you don't even own it!!.well i do and think it's very good,as i said it will get better after SP1.but it is very usable

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On 7/13/2018 at 8:02 PM, flyfed said:

At the moment, P3Dv4.3. There is some functionality in 4.3 that was needed and not available in 4.2 or less.

Their reasoning for using "Professional" in the title is explained in this link. See the third paragraph.

While it's true that the bus requires 4.3, that's not the question he asked. He asked what do Aerosoft mean by "professional", and I answered him. He wasn't specifically asking about the bus. Many/Most of Aerosoft's other "professional" products work on earlier point releases of v4.

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On 7/15/2018 at 10:04 AM, Anders Bermann said:

I don't really care if someone in here, flyes the Airbus, Boeing, CRJ or even if set person is the Pope!

Let's be honest. If the Pope is a flight simmer, we would all want to know. 😉

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On ‎7‎/‎16‎/‎2018 at 8:41 AM, nealmac said:

While it's true that the bus requires 4.3, that's not the question he asked. He asked what do Aerosoft mean by "professional", and I answered him. He wasn't specifically asking about the bus. Many/Most of Aerosoft's other "professional" products work on earlier point releases of v4.

I inserted the 4.3 comment because that requirement is occasionally missed, based on my experience as a moderator on the Aerosoft site. I'm simply trying to help people just thinking "4.x" to know they need to be at 4.3, since many are still holding off on moving from 4.1 or 4.2.

As for the asked question, as you pointed out, it's not about what version of P3D is required. The question in the first post was indeed about the "Professional" in the product title. The link I provided is Aerosoft's official statement on that subject. Nothing wrong with your answer, it's just that Aerosoft's is the very best answer.

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On 7/15/2018 at 5:52 AM, ABermann said:

Agreed!

The attitude in here sometimes baffles me... I don't know why you need to publicize your receipt, for an addon, for it to be justified to make your observation. Especially since it's not equal for all! If the review had been positive, I bet no one would have demanded for proof of purchase...

Makes you wonder...

The product is an excellent add-on. It is true that over at Aerosoft, most of the forum administrators behave in a very un-educated, unprofessional , and rude  manner. (Namely with their: "Have you searched the forum?"  "Oh read 60 pages back, this has already been answered")... Very ,very foolish attitude... Hello Tom, Dave, and Frank!    But this is also  fueled by a couple of trolls and "on purpose" visitors such as Nuno. I personally have set aside any comments by Nuno or Mitch as their only purpose is to destroy every other developer who is not their favorite. 

But, going back to the product yes, it's a beautiful piece of art. And, Aerosoft isnworking on making it even better.

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I'd like an alternative to the other Airbus since I am banned thanks to the kind CEO for finding too many bugs on the fsx original release and upsetting his programming talent.

Why is someone with the username "Boeing or not going" interested in Airbus planes? :tongue:

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5 hours ago, flyfed said:

I inserted the 4.3 comment because that requirement is occasionally missed, based on my experience as a moderator on the Aerosoft site. I'm simply trying to help people just thinking "4.x" to know they need to be at 4.3, since many are still holding off on moving from 4.1 or 4.2.

As for the asked question, as you pointed out, it's not about what version of P3D is required. The question in the first post was indeed about the "Professional" in the product title. The link I provided is Aerosoft's official statement on that subject. Nothing wrong with your answer, it's just that Aerosoft's is the very best answer.

Fair enough Herman. I didn't realise it was yourself 😅. Good answer by the way.

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3 hours ago, Christopher Low said:

Why is someone with the username "Boeing or not going" interested in Airbus planes? :tongue:

Because they finally realize that their Boeing is not going places where Airbus is going. Boooooo. lol

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