P3d V4.3 seems a little messy

[shivers9 1,174]

To this point, I have only did a Client install but I seem to be having more than normal problems with 4.3. I have a lot of studders on the ground. P3d is crashing everytime that I shut it down. Screen freezes after using for a while. I can not put my finger on it but I don't think that this version is playing well with ChasePlane or AS beta. I am holding off on reinstall til all the Dev's get things sorted out but In my case I have not had this poor of a running system since FSX days.

[ckyliu 1,749]

I know this isn't particularly helpful but it's running fine here, I went straight from 4.1 to 4.3 but I don't really run any utility addons aside from FSXWX. Did you uninstalled the old client before installing the new one, and also did you update your ASP4 and ChasePlane to the v4.3 compatible versions?

[Rimshot 1,135]

Too bad and frustrating not being able to pinpoint the cause. Overhere 4.3 is running like a dream.

[GEKtheReaper 364]

Hi @Rimshot,

 

have updated from a clean 4.2 to 4.3 client only. Have all the AddOn's from my signature running. Never had a crash (had ASPv4 in Beta3 and have the current Beta4; dropped CP for EZCA again due to bad performance).

[Nickbe 401]

Hi!

I only updated the client from 4.1 to 4.3. I have many hours in the sky with P3D4.3. In my case, everything works very well. But I do not fly very long flights, a maximum of 2-3 hours. I had strong stutters once but I noticed that my CPU overclocking suddenly went off. I loaded the BIOS and slightly raised the voltage on the CPU, then overclocking back and again everything was very good. I think the high ambient temperature might have had an impact. Once again, I want to note that I have no problems with blurring textures or stuttering. Prepare3D 4.3 is much more stable and faster than other versions for me.

Edited July 24, 2018 by Nickbe

[shivers9 1,174]

Thanks for the replies. Yep sounds like I need to reinstall everything and also redo overclocking although it has been stable for a long time now. I only fly GA and reasonable settings for autogen ect. My system is not great but should do much better.

[Benjamin J 751]

4.3 runs very well for me too.

I will say that anytime P3D v4 has been misbehaving, deleting the Prepar3D.cfg has pretty much always fixed the problem, and returned P3Dv4 into a smooth experience. Try that first before you go on the long haul of reinstalling the whole thing!

[Ron Attwood 3,464]

18 minutes ago, Benjamin J said:

4.3 runs very well for me too.

I will say that anytime P3D v4 has been misbehaving, deleting the Prepar3D.cfg has pretty much always fixed the problem, and returned P3Dv4 into a smooth experience. Try that first before you go on the long haul of reinstalling the whole thing!

I've read this several times. Do I understand that you have a bog standard config and it turns in a 'smooth experience'. Then P3D misbehaves and you replace the cfg with another bog standard config and smoothness returns. Is that about it? Or do you mess with the config which eventually causes misbehaviour, then delete the cfg which returns you to default settings?

 

[Benjamin J 751]

6 minutes ago, Ron Attwood said:

I've read this several times. Do I understand that you have a bog standard config and it turns in a 'smooth experience'. Then P3D misbehaves and you replace the cfg with another bog standard config and smoothness returns. Is that about it? Or do you mess with the config which eventually causes misbehaviour, then delete the cfg which returns you to default settings?

I do not touch the Prepar3D.cfg at all - and as such I cna understand any skepticism on your part as to why this might work. Why would it, if I don't mess with it? My theory is that certain addons might do stuff it. Hell, maybe even when Prepar3D itself edits the cfg when I change settings does sloppy edits here and there. After a while I'm guessing slight errors accumulate and make the sim run worse than it actually should.

Of course I have no numbers to back anything up, and it may very well be a placebo effect. After all, I've only ever had a CTD with P3Dv4 once, and this was caused a bottleneck in the autogen displayed over FTX NL. But, it's such a simple thing to do - deleting the Prepar3D.cfg - that you may as well try it. If it doesn't fix anything, it'll certainly not break anything.

[vgbaron 3,612]

Simple to check - make a copy of a fresh cfg file and save it. go fly - when you are at the point where you feel you need to start with a new fresh cfg file - save the current one.  Use a free program like winmerge to compare current vs saved original and see what's changed. That might give you a clue.

 

Vic

[djbully 210]

Don’t forget to delete the shaders folder aswell, and let that rebuild! 

[shivers9 1,174]

14 minutes ago, vgbaron said:

Simple to check - make a copy of a fresh cfg file and save it. go fly - when you are at the point where you feel you need to start with a new fresh cfg file - save the current one.  Use a free program like winmerge to compare current vs saved original and see what's changed. That might give you a clue.

 

Vic

I deleted the .cfg and did a short flight. It did indeed make things better. Much smoother and no crash on shutdown. I had just made a copy of the new clean .cfg and I am going to keep copies as I add higher settings and try the weather From AS. I don't mess with any tweak and so we shall see what happens. 

[pracines 823]

Windows 10 updates of late seem to be messing things up for several programs. I did a system refresh and reinstalled everything a few weeks back. Anything that did get messed up by a major windows update was all cleared up.

Nvidia drivers of late are also messing things up for many. Used to be that we could (and would want to) just dive in, with no concern, when new (or even beta) drivers were released.

Flight simulation needs to get back on top of the technology curve, the way I see it.

 

[shivers9 1,174]

29 minutes ago, pracines said:

Windows 10 updates of late seem to be messing things up for several programs. I did a system refresh and reinstalled everything a few weeks back. Anything that did get messed up by a major windows update was all cleared up.

Nvidia drivers of late are also messing things up for many. Used to be that we could (and would want to) just dive in, with no concern, when new (or even beta) drivers were released.

Flight simulation needs to get back on top of the technology curve, the way I see it.

 

I agree. There are so many version of flight sim all going in different directions. The Dev's are trying to be all things to all sims and that has got to inject a few bugs here and there and as you said...Windows updates are a mess and the Nvida drivers seem to be getting a bit goofy. It is nice to have choices but as I have said before...we may have to much of a good thing right now. LOL

[Benjamin J 751]

2 hours ago, shivers9 said:

I deleted the .cfg and did a short flight. It did indeed make things better. Much smoother and no crash on shutdown. I had just made a copy of the new clean .cfg and I am going to keep copies as I add higher settings and try the weather From AS. I don't mess with any tweak and so we shall see what happens. 

Glad it worked for you. Deleting the cfg is always my number 1 trouble shooting step.

vgbaron: that's a good suggestion. I might do that next time to get a sense of what changed (though hoping it won't be necessary!).