UK2000 Gatwick for P3Dv4

[Gaz 15]

Hi everyone

I've been using this soon for some time, but just realised I've never flown to the airport - only from it! 

I use the built - in ATC, and it got me VERY close to the airport, and it had given me instructions to land on the main runway with a visual approach! Why would it do that when I know the runway it assigned me has an ILS? How to I tell the system about the approaches using ILS? 

Gaz

[DavidP 1,410]

Can't answer the main question but why not just fly the ILS with visual reference? Just because you get given a visual doesn't mean you can't use your instruments.

Edited July 28, 2018 by DavidP

[Dazkent 113]

The ATC has a habit of doing this sometimes, have had the same at Stansted in FSX, i just dial in the frequency and treat it as an ILS

 

[Gaz 15]

Yeah, I've tried it again and this time I manually typed in the frequency, like you say. Shame you have to do that. 

One of the things I've also had a problem with is that ATC is very late in starting my decent, so I'm still too high when I get to the airport. This is despite using the spoilers and slowing right down for the entire decent. The only way I can get out of this is while I'm descending, at some point do a 360° turn, giving you more time to descend! Even then, I have to use the spoilers the whole time. 

[GHarrall 494]

Default atc is notoriously bad /unpredictable 

if you must use it, treat it as advice only 🙂

Edited July 28, 2018 by GHarrall

[Gaz 15]

10 minutes ago, GHarrall said:

treat it as advice only

I think it's a case of using it or not. Years ago, when i used an earlier version of Flight Sim, there was a complete ATC that was brilliant. I can't think of a problem with it, but I just can't remember it's name. 

I think ProATC has issues? 

[fluffyflops 1,856]

1 hour ago, Gary McCluskey said:

I think it's a case of using it or not. Years ago, when i used an earlier version of Flight Sim, there was a complete ATC that was brilliant. I can't think of a problem with it, but I just can't remember it's name. 

I think ProATC has issues? 

It's quite a good product If you have it set up properly 

[virtualstuff 757]

54 minutes ago, tooting said:

It's quite a good product If you have it set up properly 

I agree, ProAtcX with every flight, don't like the only flying in the dark environment (unicom)...

Cheers,

[CFIJose 5,485]

3 hours ago, Gary McCluskey said:

I think it's a case of using it or not. Years ago, when i used an earlier version of Flight Sim, there was a complete ATC that was brilliant. I can't think of a problem with it, but I just can't remember it's name. 

I think ProATC has issues? 

Are you referring to ProFlight Emulator (PFE) ? There is an upgrade path to p3d v4.

There was also RadarContact v4 (RC4) and VoxATC.

 

[Gaz 15]

I was thinking of ProATC/X.. 

I read that it didn't do something with the AI? Is that right? 

Gaz

[Nyxx 6,993]

5 hours ago, Gary McCluskey said:

I think it's a case of using it or not. Years ago, when i used an earlier version of Flight Sim, there was a complete ATC that was brilliant. I can't think of a problem with it, but I just can't remember it's name. 

I think ProATC has issues? 

PROATC is fantastic after adjusting decent fpm rates for my aircraft I normally get told to descend before within 30-10 miles of the aircraft TOD point.

Useing the built in ATC is frankly a wast of time.

I would not do a flight without PROATC now.

Edited July 28, 2018 by Nyxx

[rmeier 473]

Gaz,

I've been using Pro-ATC-X for several years, for both Commercial and GA flights (with the "TAIL" ID modification). The last upgrade, a few months back, make this ATC software virtually trouble free.

I don't use online (Vatsim), only Pro-ATC-X. No problems together with Ultimate Traffic Live.

Highly recommended for a "non-voice" activated ATC simulation.

Rob

[Gaz 15]

Thanks Rob, I really appreciate that. I just realised I bought it a while ago but didn't install it because it says something about not handling AI aircraft (but maybe that's it off date) t. But it's good to hear what you're saying, so I'll install it and give it a go

Gaz

[Nyxx 6,993]

I would DL the full update version and yes it handles UTL AI

[Gaz 15]

2 hours ago, Nyxx said:

I would DL the full update version and yes it handles UTL AI

On their website, it says : AI is recognized and managed (not yet on ground, but while airborne). I'm not entirely sure how that has an impact on you going close to other aircraft on the taxiway, for example.