Jump to content

Sign in to follow this  
Tom Allensworth

Middle East Navigation

Recommended Posts

I'm planning a flight from EDDF to OMDB and RouteFinder sends me straight over Iraq. I can't help but think that this flight path is currently prohibited, yes? Does anybody know which general routes flights are being forced to take, if at all?ThanksAlden

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

If I saw correctly on the news yesterday, I think Bahgdad is now open to commercial traffic or at least limited traffic.In any case did you check all the restriction boxes in routfinder, if you did, then your route is probably valid.I just did the opposite flight of what you did...lol.


Jeff D. Nielsen (KMCI)

https://www.twitch.tv/pilotskcx

10th Gen Intel Core i9 10900KF (10-Core, 20MB Cache, 3.7GHz to 5.3GHz w/Thermal Velocity Boost) | NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 24GB GDDR6X | 128GB Dual Channel DDR4 XMP at 3200MHz | 2TB M.2 PCIe SSD (Boot) + 2TB 7200RPM SATA 6Gb/s (Storage) | Lunar Light chassis with High-Performance CPU/GPU Liquid Cooling and 1000W Power Supply

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

What about flying Israeli commercial aircraft on routes from Tel Aviv to Africa or Asia. Are there areas that they have to avoid?


MSFS Premium Deluxe Edition; P3DV4.5, ASP4, REXSF, REXEF, AIGAIM, ProATCx, GSX, Chaseplane, 

Windows 10 Pro, I9-9900k; Asus Maximus XI Hero; Asus Strix GTX 1080ti; 32GB G.Skill Ripjaw DDR4 3600; 2X Samsung 1TB 970EVO; NZXT Kraken X63; Seasonic Prime PX-1000, Single 32" 4k Monitor, Honeycomb Yoke, Saitek TQ's (2x), CH Rudder Pedals, Logitech G13 Gamepad 



 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I did the BGN flight also. I could not find any actual STAR's for BGN for the life of me, just an area map. To tell you the truth I just flew the ILS from over Jeruselum (spelling I think). You might have to sort of ignore any geo politcal lines if you know what I mean.


Jeff D. Nielsen (KMCI)

https://www.twitch.tv/pilotskcx

10th Gen Intel Core i9 10900KF (10-Core, 20MB Cache, 3.7GHz to 5.3GHz w/Thermal Velocity Boost) | NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 24GB GDDR6X | 128GB Dual Channel DDR4 XMP at 3200MHz | 2TB M.2 PCIe SSD (Boot) + 2TB 7200RPM SATA 6Gb/s (Storage) | Lunar Light chassis with High-Performance CPU/GPU Liquid Cooling and 1000W Power Supply

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Alden,I can't imagine why overflight of Iraq would be an issue, as there is no air war going on.Check out this site: http://www.airiraqco.com/index.htmCommercial aviation into and out of Iraq is risky, but expanding.


Best Regards,

Kurt "Yoda" Kalbfleisch

Pinner, Middx, UK

Beta tester for PMDG J41, NGX, and GFO, Flight1 Super King Air B200, Flight1 Cessna Citation Mustang, Flight1 Cessna 182, Flight1 Cessna 177B, Aeroworx B200

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

>I did the BGN flight also. I could not find any actual>STAR's for BGN for the life of me, just an area map. To tell>you the truth I just flew the ILS from over Jeruselum>(spelling I think). You might have to sort of ignore any geo>politcal lines if you know what I mean.I could never find charts for BGN either. FS seems to give me RWY30 a lot and I always seem to get vectored over the West Bank. I am pretty sure they don't do that in real life. I guess the hard part is that El Al does operate flights to Thailand, Hong Kong and India but it seems like they may have to go out of their way quite a bit to avoid certain countries.


MSFS Premium Deluxe Edition; P3DV4.5, ASP4, REXSF, REXEF, AIGAIM, ProATCx, GSX, Chaseplane, 

Windows 10 Pro, I9-9900k; Asus Maximus XI Hero; Asus Strix GTX 1080ti; 32GB G.Skill Ripjaw DDR4 3600; 2X Samsung 1TB 970EVO; NZXT Kraken X63; Seasonic Prime PX-1000, Single 32" 4k Monitor, Honeycomb Yoke, Saitek TQ's (2x), CH Rudder Pedals, Logitech G13 Gamepad 



 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I did find the SID and all the IAP charts, but there doesn't seem to be any actual STAR charts, just an area chart.That ILS is actually the right procedure. In fact I think all but 1 or 2 approaches are directly over the BGN VOR to a procedure turn to final. They're actual full procedure ILS's. I was lucky enough to have VATIL ATC on during my entire approach and landing and they gave me pretty much to the T the exact published procedure.I think the charts are found at the either the VATSIM Israel site or the El AL VA, I can't remember where I got them.


Jeff D. Nielsen (KMCI)

https://www.twitch.tv/pilotskcx

10th Gen Intel Core i9 10900KF (10-Core, 20MB Cache, 3.7GHz to 5.3GHz w/Thermal Velocity Boost) | NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 24GB GDDR6X | 128GB Dual Channel DDR4 XMP at 3200MHz | 2TB M.2 PCIe SSD (Boot) + 2TB 7200RPM SATA 6Gb/s (Storage) | Lunar Light chassis with High-Performance CPU/GPU Liquid Cooling and 1000W Power Supply

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I flew from Heathrow on BA in April of 05 to Kuwait City, and Gulf Air from Heathrow to Muscat, Oman in May of 06. Both flights went directly over Iraq and in fact, directly over Bahgdad. The flight in April of 2005 was very interesting. It was the normal BA 11'ish a.m. departure, arriving Kuwait City sometime around 10 - 11 p.m. The oil well fires and the gas burn off really made a spectacular view when flying over the south of Irag. So, the answer is, at least as of April 05 and since, there are no restrictions flying jetways over Iraq in the real world.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
Sign in to follow this  

  • Tom Allensworth,
    Founder of AVSIM Online


  • Flight Simulation's Premier Resource!

    AVSIM is a free service to the flight simulation community. AVSIM is staffed completely by volunteers and all funds donated to AVSIM go directly back to supporting the community. Your donation here helps to pay our bandwidth costs, emergency funding, and other general costs that crop up from time to time. Thank you for your support!

    Click here for more information and to see all donations year to date.
  • Donation Goals

    AVSIM's 2020 Fundraising Goal

    Donate to our annual general fundraising goal. This donation keeps our doors open and providing you service 24 x 7 x 365. Your donation here helps to pay our bandwidth costs, emergency funding, and other general costs that crop up from time to time. We reset this goal every new year for the following year's goal.


    48%
    $12,180.00 of $25,000.00 Donate Now
×
×
  • Create New...