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Hey everyone, after a 3 year pause, I am slowly getting back to my beloved hobby and boy have things changed! In a nutshell, I moved to Orlando, FL, got a new job and just have been settling in with hardly any time for simming. As a matter of fact, I don't even have my simming PC and peripherals anymore! Basically starting from scratch again and I am completely lost! Even my website, livedispatch.org closed down.

With that being said, I have a ton of catching up to do and I am seriously thinking about going the VR route with DCS and P3D.

I have started doing research on a new PC build but with new CPUs and GPUs coming out in the next few weeks and Black Friday / Cyber Monday around the corner, I think it would be best for me to wait a couple more months before I commit into purchasing hardware.

Any suggestions on what should I get for my new simming PC? Remember, I want to focus on VR usage along with DCS/P3D and perhaps X-plane as well.

Looking forward to your suggestions and boy it's great to be back!

 

PS: Here is what I currently have saved on my Amazon shopping list. How does this look so far?

https://www.amazon.com/hz/wishlist/ls/3CP4MES8AYVV1

 

Efrain Ruiz (BimmerCop)

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Efrain Ruiz
LiveDISPATCH @ http://www.livedispatch.org (CLOSED) ☹️

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Looking to your list i would say you picked the correct parts, unless you want to wait a little longer and add a 2080ti with is pornographic price or to see if the 1080ti drops a little more.

Rather than that, i dont know if that cooler is good enough to cool down the hot 8700k(in OC), i have water cooling, maybe other members that have it can say something...if you go with X-plane more ram and disk are mandatory, because you dont want to miss ortho4xp that is simply awesome in both 2d and VR, in this particular XP runs VR natively with no issues and with most of the planes supporting it, last time i try P3D with is native VR was unplayable and i had to go with Flyinside, but also a great experience!

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They are not too far away from you (north of Tampa), and the systems & customer service are as good as it gets:

http://jetlinesystems.com/

At least give them a call before you make a final decision, you will be glad you did. 

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Rather than that, i dont know if that cooler is good enough to cool down the hot 8700k(in OC)

The Noctua NH-D15 is rated as one of the best air coolers on the planet.

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26 minutes ago, pracines said:

They are not too far away from you (north of Tampa), and the systems & customer service are as good as it gets:

http://jetlinesystems.com/

At least give them a call before you make a final decision, you will be glad you did. 

Definitely have a talk with the guys at Jetline Systems. I bought a computer from them back in March to run P3D V4, and it runs great. From Orlando, it's roughly a two-hour drive to get to them (I know, I've done it myself).


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Thanks for the Jetlinesystems suggestion, guys. I will check them out indeed, though I am a builder myself. I think I can benefit from purchasing the parts and buidling it myself. What are the advantages of going with Jetlinesystems, over building my own?


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Efrain Ruiz
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They build the computer and test it out with your simulator of choice. If there's any faults with any components, they'll replace it before you even get the computer. The other thing is you only get to select from a handful of components, but they've already been tested beforehand for performance, so at the very least, you'll know it works. When it comes to building a computer yourself, people (and I'm not saying you would do this, but people have tried this) could select some cheap components and somehow expect it to run the simulator with the graphics set to high, which is unrealistic. I suppose if you're capable of building the computer yourself and you have all the time to do it yourself, you might not need Jetline Systems. I personally don't have the time to sit there and troubleshoot everything. They do provide tech support should you need it, though I guess if you know what you're doing, you probably won't need it.


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20 minutes ago, BimmerCop said:

Thanks for the Jetlinesystems suggestion, guys. I will check them out indeed, though I am a builder myself. I think I can benefit from purchasing the parts and buidling it myself. What are the advantages of going with Jetlinesystems, over building my own?

That's what I did yonks ago. Checked Jetline, then used their guidlines to build my own from the suggested components. 

 

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32 minutes ago, Poppet said:

Welcome back Efrain ! 

Thanks, Elaine! Happy to be back!

 

42 minutes ago, Captain Kevin said:

They build the computer and test it out with your simulator of choice. If there's any faults with any components, they'll replace it before you even get the computer. The other thing is you only get to select from a handful of components, but they've already been tested beforehand for performance, so at the very least, you'll know it works. When it comes to building a computer yourself, people (and I'm not saying you would do this, but people have tried this) could select some cheap components and somehow expect it to run the simulator with the graphics set to high, which is unrealistic. I suppose if you're capable of building the computer yourself and you have all the time to do it yourself, you might not need Jetline Systems. I personally don't have the time to sit there and troubleshoot everything. They do provide tech support should you need it, though I guess if you know what you're doing, you probably won't need it.

Yea, I see what you are saying. Maybe it's just that I've been building my own PCs since the early 90s. Actually I have never purchased a pre-built system! I love tinkering with systems and screwing them up. LOL Thanks for the suggestion though, I really appreciate it.

 

29 minutes ago, Jude Bradley said:

That's what I did yonks ago. Checked Jetline, then used their guidlines to build my own from the suggested components. 

 

That is something I will definitely be doing. See what they have to offer and use that as a baseline for my build.


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Efrain Ruiz
LiveDISPATCH @ http://www.livedispatch.org (CLOSED) ☹️

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14 minutes ago, BimmerCop said:

Yea, I see what you are saying. Maybe it's just that I've been building my own PCs since the early 90s. Actually I have never purchased a pre-built system! I love tinkering with systems and screwing them up. LOL Thanks for the suggestion though, I really appreciate it.

Yeah, in that case, you won't need it. I personally have never built my own computer, and considering that I drive a truck for a living and I"m almost never home, I just don't have time to sit there and try to build and subsequently troubleshoot stuff. My time at home is very limited, so I'd rather spend it flying.

15 minutes ago, BimmerCop said:

That is something I will definitely be doing. See what they have to offer and use that as a baseline for my build.

That's certainly another way to do it.


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Love Jetline.  Here's what they just built for me.  It's my 3rd jetline system.  Greg and Ken are great to deal with.

Jetline Systems Gravity GT2
 

Operating System:           Windows 10 Home Edition (64-Bit)
Chassis:                           NZXT S340 Elite Mid-Tower, Black
Motherboard:                   Gigabyte Aorus Z370 Gaming 5, LGA 1151
Processor:                        Intel 8th Gen Core i7 8700K (4.8GHz Overclock) 
Core                                 Six Core
CPU Cooling:                   Corsair Hydro Series H100i v2 Liquid Cooling
System Memory:              32GB Corsair DDR4 SDRAM 3000MHz
Graphics Processor:         11GB Nvidia GeForce GTX 1080 Ti, PCI Express 3.0
System Power:                  850 Watt Corsair RM Series Power Supply
Sound Card:                      7.1 High Definition Integrated Audio
Primary Drive:                   1TB Samsung EVO 860 Solid State Drive (SSD)
Secondary Drive:               2TB Mechanical Drive
Optical Drive:                    20x DVD/CD Burner Drive (USB)
Networking:                      Wired High-Speed + 802.11ac (WiFi) Wireless Ready
Service & Support:          1 Year Limited Warranty & Lifetime Technical Support

Stan

 

 

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Nice. I have pretty much the same thing, except I have 16 gigabytes rather than 32 gigabytes since they told me 32 gigabytes wasn't necessary. In addition, since I requested that the optical drive and media drive be built in, I have the Cooler Master Storm Scout 2 rather than the NZXT S340.


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I'd definitely wait to see how the coming i9-9900K or the i7-9700K stack up...reports are now coming in that they will have soldered IHS packages for the first time in a very long time.  They may appear on the shelves in a matter of weeks, or possibly slip to early next year, as apparently there are some bottlenecks forming on the production lines at Intel's only 14nm manufacturing plant.

I'd also do some research on the current state of affairs for RAM, as 3200MHz/CAS 14 is a bit on the slow side these days, and I am led to believe fast RAM can make a difference on builds with the new CPUs and chipsets. 

It's not certain when we might we know if an RTX 2080 video card is worth the ransom w/r/t flight sims...in the meantime the 1080Ti is a very solid performer with P3Dv4.

Welcome back

 


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I just built the system in my signature and like it a lot.  The cooler, the Corsair H115i Pro (the Pro on the end is important as the H115i is very noisy) is exceptional and super quiet and does not take up a lot of space like the Noctua NH-D15.  My system is now very stable and all I had to do was set the BIOS to the XMP Mode, set all cores to 50 and sync all cores, save, and exit.  The i7 cores run in the 40 - 49C range when using P3DV4.3.  Of course, no issue with fps over 30.  Here is a FSUIPC log of a recent flight in the PMDG 747 from FSDT KORD to FlightBeam KIAD, with MegaScenery Virginia and Illinois, ActiveSky for P3DV4 w/AS Cloud Art, and Ultimate Trafffic Live:

Minimum frame rate was 11.3 fps, Maximum was 136.1 fps    (minimum fps must be happening at start up as I do not see it during the flight)
Average frame rate for running time of 2844 secs = 57.5 fps
Maximum AI traffic for session was 299 aircraft

P3DV4 and/or X-Plane are the games to play as they are both 64-bit and virtual address space (VAS) is unlimited.  Important as lack of VAS in 32 bit apps caused a lot of crashes.

Best regards,

Jim


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