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Well summarised, Mike. Exactly as per your ideas.

Only wish MS did not have that global monopoly ala various web browsers that finally killed off their forcing IE on us till the European Courts hammered them.

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36 minutes ago, vc10man said:

Only wish MS did not have that global monopoly ala various web browsers that finally killed off their forcing IE on us till the European Courts hammered them.

Hi Rick,

I tried Edge for an hour or so before I felt myself yearning to return to Firefox. Edge is okay and seems quite responsive, but then so is Firefox and Chrome. Now I have all three on my Win10 installation with all my pre-existing bookmarks and passwords, etc. synced so I’m spoiled for choice..lol! However, Firefox still remains my preferred browser.

Regards,

Mike

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3 hours ago, vc10man said:

Hi Mike

Probably did not make clear.

I dropped out of flight simming for nigh on 7-8 months, maybe more because of Windows 10. I now enjoy P3D on another Windows 7 64-bit machine that I will not MS to take over, or ruin with its so-called Creators Updates. All it Creates is dire anger!

I can run P3Dv4.3.29 and all the add-ons from a different PC connected to the Net quite happily. And be in total control of my PC and enjoy my hobby, too.

I hear MS will start charging for updates in Win7 soon. That's pretty terrible. 

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The best holiday present I could get was LM announcing that they were going to make a Linux version. I could be rid of Microsoft entirely then.

Ted

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15 minutes ago, SolRayz said:

I hear MS will start charging for updates in Win7 soon. That's pretty terrible. 

Source please? Sounds extremely unlikely. 

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32 minutes ago, SolRayz said:

I hear MS will start charging for updates in Win7 soon. That's pretty terrible.

Hi Marc,

I’m assuming you are jesting. Were it to be true then surely such an ill-considered action would simply harden attitudes further and all those worthy Windows 7 users would lock MS out of the equation for evermore. Bring it on, I say, and see where it gets ‘em..lol! Time they were ‘encouraged’ to face the reality check which is long overdue. Isn’t it amazing how such a monolithic organisation continues to ride roughshod over everyone and does so with such apparent lasting impunity. 

Regards,

Mike

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7 minutes ago, Cruachan said:

Hi Marc,

I’m assuming you are jesting. Were it to be true then surely such an ill-considered action would simply harden attitudes further and all those worthy Windows 7 users would lock MS out of the equation for evermore. Bring it on, I say, and see where it gets ‘em..lol! Time they were ‘encouraged’ to face the reality check which is long overdue. Isn’t it amazing how such a monolithic organisation continues to ride roughshod over everyone and does so with such apparent lasting impunity. 

Regards,

Mike

Unfortunately, it seems to be true. 

https://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2018/09/08/microsoft-windows-7-monthly-charge-windows-10-free-upgrade-cost/#748c9fcd2db1

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1 hour ago, SolRayz said:

Well, well! Should we be surprised? Of course not. This is what it’s been about all along - the generation of an ongoing huge income stream from a captive global audience of users trapped (duped?) into relying on their operating systems. MS knows there are no serious viable alternatives, other than Linux which will never be adopted universally, so now the time has arrived to capitalise on that unassailably advantageous position in the market. 

Mike

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I for one would rather pay a fee for continued security updates for Windows 7 than have no security updates at all after 2020, provided that the fee is reasonable. There is conflicting information about the licensing volumes, though. In the linked article, it states that "Worse still, as it stands, Microsoft is currently only making this offer to Windows 7 Professional customers in Volume Licensing. Some small businesses may qualify, but the vast majority of everyday consumers (most of whom are running Windows 7 Home) will not." However, in another article here, there is no mentioning of volume licenses, it just says Windows 7 Professional or Enterprise users.

As far as Windows 10 updates, do some of you remember the problem last year with the "Error creating child window" bug when using P3D v3 after the release of the W10 Fall creators update?  It took a few months to fix that bug. With Windows 7, I don't have the mess with the creators updates - I only download critical security updates, and that's it.

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I wonder how they are going to enforce these charges? Isn’t it more likely that this will encourage bad practice whereby many (could be talking millions) users choose to run without security update patching from Microsoft and instead rely more heavily on their antivirus/anti-malware products for ongoing protective measures?

Mike

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MS pulled this garbage with the company I was with some years back when Windows Server 2003 went out of support.  It was beyond punitive.

Year One: $1.2M

Year Two: $2.4M

Year Three: $3.6M

And the kicker....these patches weren't any different from company to company.  Hypothetically, if Ford was the first customer to pay for the production of these patches, then every other company that came after was pure gravy train money for MS since every company received the same monthly patches.

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7 hours ago, Ted Striker said:

The best holiday present I could get was LM announcing that they were going to make a Linux version. I could be rid of Microsoft entirely then.

Ted

If it happens,Ted, I for one wll jump for joy getting rid of MS!

7 hours ago, Cruachan said:

all those worthy Windows 7 users would lock MS out of the equation for evermore

Spot-on, Mike

Take a look at the latest Windows 10 user interface with the latest Updates which are picture icons that link to MS's sell tactics that wiped out my previous Classic Shell Start menu, which is when I hardened my attitude towards MS.

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Lol.

Latest update - "Win 10 Deleting user files".

How I fell off my chair.

How I am SO pleased that I went out a couple of weeks ago, and purchased Win 10 "Pro" allowing me to temporarily delay (for up to 365 days), these parasitic updates .. to what is THE most ill-judged, poorly conceived operating system (with its retarded update strategy), in the history of computing.

So, I was being a drama queen, was I, starting this thread ?

Yeah, of course I was.

UNSUBSCRIBED...... nothing left to say.

 

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