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Windows 10 October update. Ver. 1809

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Thank you all for your feedback.
I updated to 1809. P3Dv4.3 and everything else runs smoothly.

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22 minutes ago, J van E said:

I simply don't like to install stuff I don't need.

Ok, but how do you know you don't need it?  Or how do you know some element of an application doesn't need it?  

It's Windows, it's never going to be clean, and that's ok ... that's my point, everything you mentioned doesn't have any impact on performance and doesn't use much space.  But rule of thumb, if you don't know, don't make a decision to change it.

Cheers, Rob.

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I'm old and old school. I just let Windows 10 do it's thing when and where it wants.  Same for Nvidia, I even let it do all the installs.  Never had a problem.

In face, I'm so old school that I can program in COBOL. ROFL

Grace and Peace,

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2 hours ago, Bluestar said:

I'm old and old school. I just let Windows 10 do it's thing when and where it wants.  Same for Nvidia, I even let it do all the installs.  Never had a problem.

In face, I'm so old school that I can program in COBOL. ROFL

Grace and Peace,

Exactly how you're meant to do it!!!!!!!!

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3 hours ago, Bluestar said:

I'm old and old school. I just let Windows 10 do it's thing when and where it wants.  Same for Nvidia, I even let it do all the installs.  Never had a problem.

In face, I'm so old school that I can program in COBOL. ROFL

Grace and Peace,

Ahh COBOL.. the old days when syntax was clear, simple and easy.. now C++ and F# do my head all the time with their spooky Lambda functions.. humans love to complicate things!

S. 

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All running perfectly! & seems to be a little smoother as well!

I obviously prefer my PC having the latest, as I'm sure, being a relatively new PC, the hardware is optimised for the latest operating system.

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Hi, I report flashes on the screen when I press the mouse wheel in high fps situations. either with Ezca or Chaseplane, with the maddogX or 787 qualityWing planes. Also when I open a minimized screen on the screen of p3d v4.3

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2 hours ago, hanfrysport said:

Hi, I report flashes on the screen when I press the mouse wheel in high fps situations. either with Ezca or Chaseplane, with the maddogX or 787 qualityWing planes. Also when I open a minimized screen on the screen of p3d v4.3

you are right, i have the same problem if i use vsync in p3d 

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I did some quick frame logging with my standard test route and compared to my base (prior to 1809) and it looks like I gained between 5-7% FPS (primarily due to fewer long frames).  Only tested on my 7900X TitanXP (5%) and 8700K 1080Ti (7%), did not test on my 7700K nor my 6900K.  But certainly looks like an increase in CPU performance overall ... I wondering if this is related to performance tuning relative to Spectre and Meltdown?  I can't find any information on it?

Anyone else have standard 3DBench mark scores and/or CinBench scores before and after 1809 update?  I'm seeing folks with AMD CPUs reporting performance improvements, haven't seen any Intel reports yet (other than what I've done)?  As always there are some issues being report with specific CPUs and chipset and Intel drivers (some laptops).

NOTE: I'm using the latest nVidia drivers 416.16.  Used DDU to remove older drivers and manually downloaded and installed 416.16 drivers.

One of the few times I've actually noticed something "better" coming out of Redmond in terms of OS.

Cheers, Rob.

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2 hours ago, grandfred29 said:

tienes razón, tengo el mismo problema si uso vsync en p3d 

hi, the only option that seems to work in my case so that the screen does not blink so much is to limit the fps by under 60

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On 10/5/2018 at 5:45 PM, hanfrysport said:

hi, the only option that seems to work in my case so that the screen does not blink so much is to limit the fps by under 60

For me too...

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All running perfectly! & seems to be a little smoother as well!

I obviously prefer my PC having the latest, as I'm sure, being a relatively new PC, the hardware is optimised for the latest operating system.

I'm one of the luck ones, I suppose, as everything is running peachy, no loss or issues at all. 

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Yes apparently it`s something to do with the onedrive optimization that's linked to your user profile, and some users have had there user data deleted, Microsoft are working on fix as the update is required for the new Nvidia GPUs. 

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13 hours ago, w6kd said:

Microshaft has suspended 1809 updates after users started reporting it deleted their data.  Win 10 strikes again.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2018/10/06/microsoft-windows-10-update-lost-data-upgrade-windows-7-windows-xp-free-upgrade/#373f24566fa4

I'm so tired of this word absolutely positively not allowed under any circumstances.

 

And that's exactly why every Network Administration Department in the civilian and military sector has BACKUPS of their ENTIRE computer systems.  Because most END USERS themselves won't take the time or acquire the knowledge to do them for their own computer(s).  I know. I did IT for over 40 years.  The only thing that saved many of my "customers" was the backups of their client computers (the computers on their own desks) I had made as their Network Administrator.

Quit getting mad at the software providers.  Computers are not...and never will be...perfect, error free systems.  Given enough time and opportunity, things WILL go wrong.  If an individual home computer user is too darn lazy to make their own backups of their computers to begin with, they should throw the computer out the window and go back to using typewriters and playing Pong on their black-and-white TV's.

Their isn't a commercial user of Windows 10 using Network Administration oversight that would have been permanently affected by the October Update.  They ALL would have had backups that would allow them to recover any and ALL deleted user's documents content.

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2 hours ago, FalconAF said:

And that's exactly why every Network Administration Department in the civilian and military sector has BACKUPS of their ENTIRE computer systems.  Because most END USERS themselves won't take the time or acquire the knowledge to do them for their own computer(s).  I know. I did IT for over 40 years.  The only thing that saved many of my "customers" was the backups of their client computers (the computers on their own desks) I had made as their Network Administrator.

Quit getting mad at the software providers.  Computers are not...and never will be...perfect, error free systems.  Given enough time and opportunity, things WILL go wrong.  If an individual home computer user is too darn lazy to make their own backups of their computers to begin with, they should throw the computer out the window and go back to using typewriters and playing Pong on their black-and-white TV's.

Their isn't a commercial user of Windows 10 using Network Administration oversight that would have been permanently affected by the October Update.  They ALL would have had backups that would allow them to recover any and ALL deleted user's documents content.

My Win 10 system has been taken from a perfectly functional state to broken multiple times now by the undesired injection of buggy Micro$haft update code.  There's a difference between things going wrong and someone reaching into your system and making them go wrong.  So no, I won't quit being angry at having that imposed upon me over and over again...it's bull word not allowed outside of a cowpen.

And, in this instance, the last cumulative update prior to 1809 caused my backup software to start throwing failed RPC calls, driving a half-day long exercise in hair pulling to get that working again.

And then, after recovering from a previous backup, Windows 10 will go right back out and try to install the problem updates again.

I am angry that Microshaft still continues to ignore their users and still repeatedly forces updates that break perfectly functional systems.  I'm not lazy and I'm not permanently affected...I do backups religiously...but I am sick and tired of spending hour upon hour recovering from problems imposed on me by buggy forced updates that I don't want or need.

This isn't about laziness...it's about the fact that an end user shouldn't NEED to have the knowledge of a frappin' professional network administrator to keep their OS provider from arbitrarily and repeatedly reaching in from afar and borking his/her PC.

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2 hours ago, FalconAF said:

Quit getting mad at the software providers.

Seriously?  This should have NEVER happened, especially from an update which the average user cannot easily turn off.  Also, MS was warned well in advance of this showstopping bug.

Nadella is a clown.  This is the exact result expected when you fire your internal QA team and rely on Joe Public to beta test your products.

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Looks like Microsoft has halted the 1809 rollout ... if you use their OneDrive service you could lose data.

Fortunately I’ve never used that service and my 1809 updates went very well and overall PC seems to run a tad faster with less blocking.

I have an on going love/hate with Microsoft because they operate at the 70% mark whereas Apple operate around 90%.

Rob

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I think that MS staff are the only ones that use either OneDrive or the web browser Edge for that matter. My 1809 upgrade was slow but smooth also.

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I had to rollback to the last version due to black flashes when flying in P3D.

 

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1 hour ago, Ekim said:

I had to rollback to the last version due to black flashes when flying in P3D.

 

Now that you mention it, I noticed that on a flight last night, I let it go in the hope that it would fix it self by the next time I fly. Will deffo keep an eye out for it again now

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19 hours ago, Greggy_D said:

Also, MS was warned well in advance of this showstopping bug.

Where's the evidence of this? Clearly some systems are affected by the update but I can't believe that MS would knowingly release an update which they knew would cause serious problems. That would leave them open to litigation if true.

17 hours ago, jabloomf1230 said:

I think that MS staff are the only ones that use either OneDrive or the web browser Edge for that matter.

You really need to do some research before coming up with such a sweeping statement! I can't comment on Edge but according to some data sources online, OneDrive is the most popular corporate cloud storage service: https://community.spiceworks.com/blog/3058-cloud-storage-services-who-claims-the-top-spot-among-microsoft-google-dropbox. It also has a significant consumer market share.

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I was getting the black screen flashes too!

Changed my FPS to be locked at 30fps (instead of unlimited) and the flashes are fixed.

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