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Does anyone know if this is in beta yet?  With the release being sometime in 2018 and with 2 months left approximately, I figured I would check. 

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No news. Go back to bed. 

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I figured as much.  One could hope.  Hopefully it actually gets released soon. 

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Me too.  I live in the burbs and it would be nice to have this airport.  It would round out Fly Tampa Midway and ORBX's Meigs Field (which was really nice to add it back in).  Richard Daley ruined his entire reputation when he shut down the busiest single runway airport in the country, in the middle of the night by carving it up with bulldozers, and then had the gall to want to turn it into a park full of walking paths named after his wife.  He's been in hiding ever since.  He doesn't even weigh in on any of Chicago's problems, many of which were created on his 6 terms in office.  Yep SIX.  That was 22 years of running this city...

/ENDRANT

If someone would do an add-on for DuPage Airport, the whole area would be nicely represented.

Mark

 

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I just wish they would hot- fix the lighting in T1... they could take another 50 years after that! 😄

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FSDT keeps postponing and postponing, on their forum he promised a Sept. Release and here we are...

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I only remember seeing a promise of "sometime in 2018" in their forums, but if it takes longer, so be it.  I'd rather see it get done properly than semi-finished.

At work (software engineer here) we have a saying when management is jumping up and down about  some deadline someone committed to 1.5 years ago.....if you want it really, really bad, you're gonna get it really, really bad.

Mark

 

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The layout of the  mew FSDT version won't match what ORD actually looks like when it's released. 

The amount of constant construction at ORD is just insane...FSDT can't keep up with it.

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Yes a real KORD pilot in their forum described it as "one continuous construction project".  Not a reason to ignore it through, in a way the whole world is a moving target.  I think it was even mentioned on their forums they are shooting for the look it had in 2015, which may upset some folks but it's better than just throwing up ones hands and saying I give up.  Furthermore they'd go broke if they kept working on one airport full time to keep up with the yearly changes.

Like the plan to build the original 747, the design must be frozen and stuck to.  Software engineering is the worst at scope creep, as there is always some new API or framework that comes out while something is in development.  They young developers don't get it - you can't keep rewriting stuff every time a new flavor of ice cream comes out.

I was on a project about 15 years ago at very large firm that fell into this trap, it took over 7 years for their new system to come online, all the meanwhile the old one was supporting the firm just fine using IBM 370 assembly language.

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15 minutes ago, mtrainer said:

Yes a real KORD pilot in their forum described it as "one continuous construction project".  Not a reason to ignore it through, in a way the whole world is a moving target.  I think it was even mentioned on their forums they are shooting for the look it had in 2015, which may upset some folks but it's better than just throwing up ones hands and saying I give up.  Furthermore they'd go broke if they kept working on one airport full time to keep up with the yearly changes.

Like the plan to build the original 747, the design must be frozen and stuck to.  Software engineering is the worst at scope creep, as there is always some new API or framework that comes out while something is in development.  They young developers don't get it - you can't keep rewriting stuff every time a new flavor of ice cream comes out.

I was on a project about 15 years ago at very large firm that fell into this trap, it took over 7 years for their new system to come online, all the meanwhile the old one was supporting the firm just fine using IBM 370 assembly language.

Mark

 

2015 are you joking. I hope they make mention of that on the product page if that's the case. People will be upset if they're not aware of that prior to purchasing.

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2015 huh? I wonder if it will include 10r/28l....

I'm sure it will have runway 33 instead of it being SS now? 

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Reviewed the whole thread - my bad - it says this:

"Then, at the end of 2014 other runways changed, and at the end of 2015 there were other changes and in 2018 a new taxiway opened and the airport is changing again while we speak. We decided to "froze" it at the March 2018 situation, otherwise we'll never be able to release it..."

Mark

 

 

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Looks like if I’m a betting man, we won’t be seeing this anytime soon, let alone 2018.  I posted a question asking for any news and this is what fsdreamteam responded with when asked if 2018 is still accurate. 

At this time, we cannot even explain why we cannot give any more news. 

It's nothing related to KORD V2 per se, which is still progressing well. Once we'll be able to explain why we cannot provide any updates, we'll provide those updates and everything will be more clear.

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no news maybe related to NDA for next update of P3D...

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Sorry! I was just posting an update. I didn’t mean to offend!

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3 hours ago, Drumcode said:

Dude, you need to relax with the KORD posts. We all want the scenery, but I don't see anyone else whining about it not being released.

Chill out, bro. If you don't care, don't comment let alone even look in the thread. As you said,

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I think we can do with out those 3 letters. I doubt he could have actually done himself!
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What you really want is the one by Drzewiecki Design where they will have downtown Chicago, KORD and the other airports in the area much like Seattle X. The downtown area looks fairly nice and sort of realistic - https://www.facebook.com/DrzewieckiDesign/ (click on the picture and you should see an arrow to show more).

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2 hours ago, Zimmerbz said:

Looks like if I’m a betting man, we won’t be seeing this anytime soon, let alone 2018.  I posted a question asking for any news and this is what fsdreamteam responded with when asked if 2018 is still accurate. 

At this time, we cannot even explain why we cannot give any more news. 

It's nothing related to KORD V2 per se, which is still progressing well. Once we'll be able to explain why we cannot provide any updates, we'll provide those updates and everything will be more clear.

For those that can't recognize it, this is code-talk for "we can't say anything because we're NDA restricted"  Sounds to me like this one is planned to leverage new capabilities in P3D 4.4 or 5.0...

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Related to my earlier posts in this thread. I've had an offline discussion with Zimmerbz and cleared a few things. I lost my cool a bit, sorry about that. 

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During the 2018 Las Vegas Expo Umberto said “October 2018 Release” ,,  he showed me some details of the PBR (Physical Based Redering) that was amazing at ORD. He said that his programming using PBR would need to be “Down Converted” to work in P3Dv4.3; which is part of his coding. 

Now it’s November and if I were to guess, I would consider the near release of a P3D 4.4 and potential P3D 5.0  is having a major impact on FSDT KORD implementation. I would think that since Umberto does not have a very goood LM Crystall Ball and he is very motivated to realease a whole new suite of 64 bit P3D only Sceneries using P3D’s SDK based on PBR he’ll have be privy to how LM plans to move forward into the future of DX12, PBR, Ray Tracing etc.

Waiting for KORD to be built out may not be as big as a concern as mentioned. Look at Imagine Sim KLGA. it’s based on an unbuilt LGA. Plans and drawing usually happen years before these large projects are started.

I’m going to put down my Sim Scenery Conspirisy Crack Pipe now and fly to the amazing rendition of Boston or any of the other updated sceneries by Aerosoft & FlyTampa,,, 

Ego Bird

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Yep I saw that dreamteam post on their forum regarding the fact they can't give any updates and also assumed there were some legal issues behind it.   I'm looking forward to it though.

As far as the upcoming Drzewiecki Design version this also looks promising as one of the early screen snapshots showed the building I actually work at in downtown Chicago.  And it's pretty spot-on.  To model a city in that level of detail though....it's gonna take a while!   Hope they include DuPage Airport in West Chicago- always surprised no scenery makers picked this one up over the years- its main runway is long enough to handle 737s, although I don't ever recall seeing one there.

Mark

 

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There is a private operator of a 737 at KDPA.  Many gulfstreams and McDonalds has their corporate airplanes there, all Global Expresses.

 

If you flown out of Midway you can see you don't need much runway at all to fly a 737 or 757!!!

 

KDPA is a great airport, I use to flight instruct out of there.

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