Jump to content

Sign in to follow this  
JPFLIGHT

TFDi 717 or Leonardo Maddog?

Recommended Posts

Hi All,

Long time simmer and lurker, first time poster here!

I upgraded to P3D V4 a couple of months ago and have been updating my scenery and hanger with each paycheck and have now got to a point where i'm looking for my next aircraft that i haven't got and i'm looking for something not Airbus or Boeing. I am a study level flyer (finally got proper fsuipc recently to get down to the knitty gritty of multi-engine control!) and fly both Aerosoft A3XX professional and PMDG 737 and 747.

I have seen the MD-82 and the 717 and was wondering which one to go for? I mostly fly in Europe so both would now be quite niche but i quite like that idea eg DAT flying MD-82 or the Volotea 717 plus using house liveries for private flights.

My rig is a 6700k and 1070 so i would expect performance not to be an issue - the PMDG 747 flies like a beauty with Tomatoshade and rain effects.

Thanks for any guidance

James

Share this post


Link to post

Very good question , i have both and they serve me well when i can find the time for them.

If i absolutely should have one i would pick up the Maddog . More retro 🙂

Michael Moe

 


Michael Moe

 

fs2crew_747_banner1.png

Banner_FS2Crew_Emergency.png

Share this post


Link to post

Go get both. It is very interesting how the cockpit has developed from traditional style to all glas. Also interesting how complicated APU handling and engine start is in the MD-82 and how it has been simplified in the B-717. The MD-82 is a wonderful piece of aviation history and definitely has more workload. The B-717 - especially its FMC - reminds me of the Fokker 70/100 by former developer Digital Aviation, which was one of my favorite planes in FSX.

Michael

 


Michael Thesen

P3D v5, Active Sky, Pro-Atc/X, Oculus Rift-S, MSI Mortar B150M, Samsung 970 EVO 1TB SSD, NVIDIA Geforce RTX 2080, Win10 64bit, i7-6700k 4.0GHz, 32Gb RAM, Thrustmaster T16000M, Saitek Pro Flight Rudder Pedals

Share this post


Link to post

I have both. Get the Maddog.

The 717 is a beauty but unfortunately the CTDs weren’t resolved yet for some.


Shom

[P3D v4.5 HF2 running on Win 10 Pro, i7-9700K, EVGA 1080Ti, Crucial 2666 16GB, 2 500GB Samsung EVOs 850/860]

[FSLabs A320, PMDG 737 NGXu, PMDG 777, AS CRJ Pro, CS 757 iii, Fly The Maddog X, Majestic Dash 8, QW 787, TFDI 717, AS Airbus ProFeelthere E175/195 v3]

Share this post


Link to post

Maddog - in my view one of the best FS airliners ever.


Rafal Haczek

sig_FSL-By-Wire.jpg

Share this post


Link to post

I don't have the 717 but I did cave in last month when SP1 (beta) was released by Leonardo for the Maddog X. Didn't have much chance to dive deep into it yet, but for what I've seen until now, I am deeply impressed by it. Attention to detail is stunning on the Maddog and imho surpaces PMDG.

So in short; I'd recommend the Maddog 😎


Regards,

Frank van der Werff

Banner_FS2Crew_Line_Pilot.jpg

Share this post


Link to post

I don't have the 717 but do have the MD80. 
It is easily on par with any PMDG aircraft, so one of the best in my hangar.
Besides that, MD80 cockpit is in between steam-gauges and full glass cockpit which I like the best.


Location: Vleuten, The Netherlands, 15.7dme EHAM
System: P3D V4 - 80386 DX2 - 4MB RAM - 3dfx Voodoo5 - Windows 3.11

Share this post


Link to post

Ideally, get both. They're great products in their own classes. 

If you had to choose one, the TFDi 717 still suffers from some CTDs which might be resolved with the next P3D update but it isn't as polished as the MD so I would go with the MD80. It is up there with FSL and Majestic, way above PMDG.

Share this post


Link to post

No wrong answer. They're both wonderful addition to the DC9 series fans hanger.. The Maddog has a steeper learning curve but does have an FS2 Crew FO available if you prefer to fly with an assistant.

  • Like 1

Vic green

Share this post


Link to post

I have both...and also the DC9 Coolsky (but that's another story ;-))

In terms of systems, they are more deeply modelled in the Maddog. We are at the level of Majestic, Pmdg and so....
Be advised that the Maddog will be installed on disk 😄 (4GB). The installer does not give you the choice of location. Many users protested (including me). So far Leonardo has remained deaf to complaints!

The B717's systems are less sophisticated than the Maddog's, but it is a very pleasant aircraft to use and fly. The textures and lighting are superb and really a success.
If you have MCE, a complete set of flows is almost finished and will be available very soon.
I have never had a CTD with the TFDI but it's true, some have had this problem.

If you can take both. Otherwise, watch the many videos on Youtube to help you make a choice.

Richard

  • Upvote 2

Richard Portier

MAXIMUS VI FORMULA|Intel® Core i7-4770K Oc@4.50GHz x8|NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080ti|M16GB DDR3|Windows10 Pro 64|P3Dv5|AFS2|TrackIr5|Saitek ProFlight Yoke + Quadrant + Rudder Pedal|Thrustmaster Warthog A10|

Share this post


Link to post

I have both.  If getting both is not an option, it comes down to what era of aircraft you would prefer.

They are both excellent addons, FYI I have no CTD issues with the 717.


Dave

Current System (Running at 1440p): ASUS ROG Maximus XII Hero Z490, i9 10900k @ 5.1Ghz, RTX2080ti, 32GB DDR4 3600 RAM, EVGA CLC 280mm AIO Cooler, Brunner CLS-E NG Yoke, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS, VirtualFly Ruddo+ and TQ6+

Share this post


Link to post

I own both and prefer the Maddog due to the fact it is a plane that challenges you and you have to know how to operate it in all phases of flight. As far as the 717 goes, I have owned it since release and have built two different systems with different hardware and I am still getting CTD since P3Dv3.4 - P3Dv4.3 when cycling views from outside to inside. I can run the Maddog all day long without system restarts and it flies all day long.


Dan

i9-10900K@5.1 / Asus Maximus Hero Z490 / EVGA 1080ti FTW3 / ARCTIC Liquid Freezer II 280 / Phanteks Eclipse P600S / Patriot Viper Steel 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR4 4400@4000CL17 / 2ea Samsung 970 EVO Plus SSD 1TB / 1ea Samsung 850 EVO 1TB / EVGA 1000W G3, 80+ Gold / Arctic P14 PWM Case Fans / Sony 43in 4K @ 30Hz

Share this post


Link to post
3 hours ago, Shomron said:

I have both. Get the Maddog.

The 717 is a beauty but unfortunately the CTDs weren’t resolved yet for some.

I never have CDTs with the 717.  It's a very stable aircraft.

If some people are having problems it is probably something in their computer setup, like antivirus or bad memory.

I could never pick from either the Maddog or the 717.  I have them both and couldn't do without either.


Robert Yunque

PilotEdge Ratings =   CAT-11 (2016-09-13)  I-11 (2016-10-23)  V-3 (2016-08-01)

fslabs_banner.png

Share this post


Link to post
4 minutes ago, Wise87 said:

I am still getting CTD since P3Dv3.4 - P3Dv4.3 when cycling views from outside to inside

I don't have the B717, but from some friends I heard the same about those CTDs. They've been crazy trying to solve it.

I have the Maddog, and I can only confirm what others are saying here, it's really a wonderfull simulation of the MD82.

Cheers, Ed

 


Ed Patino

MSFS & P3Dv4.5hf3 - Win10 Home x64 // Rig: Corsair Graphite 760T Full Tower - ASUS MBoard Maximus XII Hero Z490 - CPU Intel i9-10900K - 64GB RAM - ASUS Nvidia RTX2080Ti 11GB - [1xNVMe M.2 1TB + 1xNVMe M.2 2TB (Samsung)] + [1xSSD 1TB + 1xSSD 2TB (Crucial)] + [1xSSD 1TB (Samsung)] + 1 HDD Seagate 2TB + 1 HDD Seagate Ext 4TB - Monitor LG 29UC97C UWHD Curved - PSU Corsair RM1000x - VR Oculus Rift // MSFS & P3Dv4.5hf3 - Win 10 Home x64 - Gaming Laptop CUK ASUS Strix - CPU Intel i7-8750H - 32GB RAM - Nvidia RTX2070 8GB - SSD 2TB + HDD 2TB // Thrustmaster FCS & MS XBOX Controllers

Share this post


Link to post
1 hour ago, DrumsArt said:

The installer does not give you the choice of location. Many users protested (including me). So far Leonardo has remained deaf to complaints!

The installer directs to your Documents folder.  This was brought up in Beta testing and LM suggests to developers to install there not the Sim Objects folder.  The work around for this and I would recommend this to anyone.  Is to move your documents folder to another hard drive.  This ensures backups of all your work also.  Plus now your are splitting the load to three hard drives 🙂

On a side note, A2A installs into this directory as well with no other option if I recall.

  • Like 1

Brian Thibodeaux | B747-400/8 First Officer, C-130 Flight Engineer, ATP, CFI

beta.gif   

My Liveries

Share this post


Link to post

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
Sign in to follow this  
  • Tom Allensworth,
    Founder of AVSIM Online


  • Flight Simulation's Premier Resource!

    AVSIM is a free service to the flight simulation community. AVSIM is staffed completely by volunteers and all funds donated to AVSIM go directly back to supporting the community. Your donation here helps to pay our bandwidth costs, emergency funding, and other general costs that crop up from time to time. Thank you for your support!

    Click here for more information and to see all donations year to date.
  • Donation Goals

    AVSIM's 2020 Fundraising Goal

    Donate to our annual general fundraising goal. This donation keeps our doors open and providing you service 24 x 7 x 365. Your donation here helps to pay our bandwidth costs, emergency funding, and other general costs that crop up from time to time. We reset this goal every new year for the following year's goal.


    31%
    $7,810.00 of $25,000.00 Donate Now
×
×
  • Create New...