FSX'ers. Understand this please.

[CFIJose 5,485]

FSX users have their reasons for sticking with FSX. I doubt that the "no more tweaking" will cajole them to switch to P3d v4.

I use NI to enhance the ap & use 4x SSGS along with the FIBER_FRAME_TIME_FRACTION=0.15 tweak. P3D FPS locked at 31.

BTW, once a P3D v4 user discovers what PTA can do, they will resort back to tweaking.😀

[Bob Scott 7,720]

3 hours ago, Michael Moe said:

I have a 1080ti as well but never tried the EXP=10 option. Does it produce more heat to the CPU as the highresolution texture does? 

Any risks of having blurry close up if CPU and GPU is overworked or Will it start blurry far away first? 

Thanks Michael Moe

The high resolution texture option is the same as setting TEXTURE_SIZE_EXP=9, so if you find that option works your GPU harder, then setting it to 10 should increase that effect even more.

58 minutes ago, DJJose said:

I use NI to enhance the ap & use 4x SSGS along with the FIBER_FRAME_TIME_FRACTION=0.15 tweak. P3D FPS locked at 31.

BTW, once a P3D v4 user discovers what PTA can do, they will resort back to tweaking.😀

When you say you use NI to "enhance the app," what does that mean?  You don't need NI to use 4xSGSS--that's selectable directly from the options menu in P3Dv4.  The benefit of using the options menu is that you can change AA on the fly...I typically run 4xSGSS in daytime with dynamic lighting off, and then at night I switch to 4xMSAA and dynamic lighting.  Can't do that with NI--have to restart to see the changes.   Just curious what NI does for you that you can't do from P3D directly.

Regards

[swiesma 625]

Yeah... I do also no tweaking. And what do i get? Microstutters all over the place. Yeay..........

[fghdgdfdfgfgf 111]

38 minutes ago, w6kd said:

The high resolution texture option is the same as setting TEXTURE_SIZE_EXP=9, so if you find that option works your GPU harder, then setting it to 10 should increase that effect even more.

When you say you use NI to "enhance the app," what does that mean?  You don't need NI to use 4xSGSS--that's selectable directly from the options menu in P3Dv4.  The benefit of using the options menu is that you can change AA on the fly...I typically run 4xSGSS in daytime with dynamic lighting off, and then at night I switch to 4xMSAA and dynamic lighting.  Can't do that with NI--have to restart to see the changes.   Just curious what NI does for you that you can't do from P3D directly.

Regards

Morning Bob-

The P3d super sampling aa (SSAA) is not the same as NI's sparse grid super sampling (SGAA).

I use the p3d 8xMSAA function along with NI's NI 4xSGSS  ...wouldn't leave home without it -works day or night and looks better than the p3d SS AA.

Edited November 5, 2018 by FunknNasty

[CFIJose 5,485]

31 minutes ago, w6kd said:

When you say you use NI to "enhance the app," what does that mean?  You don't need NI to use 4xSGSS--that's selectable directly from the options menu in P3Dv4.  The benefit of using the options menu is that you can change AA on the fly...I typically run 4xSGSS in daytime with dynamic lighting off, and then at night I switch to 4xMSAA and dynamic lighting.  Can't do that with NI--have to restart to see the changes.   Just curious what NI does for you that you can't do from P3D directly.

Regards

Hi Bob,

I get better fps (with DL enabled) and less shimmering with NI set to 4xSGS and p3d set to 4xMSAA. I like to keep DL on.

Sometimes I get stutters with a 4xSSAA in P3D and no NI. That's the primary reason why I chose to use NI.

NI gives the user more options.

[AnkH 2,261]

10 minutes ago, FunknNasty said:

The P3d super sampling aa (SSAA) is not the same as NI's sparse grid super sampling (SGAA).

I use the p3d 8xMSAA function along with NI's NI 4xSGSS  ...wouldn't leave home without it -works day or night and looks better than the p3d SS AA.

Please show me an article that SSAA and SGSSAA is something different. An article, not a user review on another forum...

Then: why do you combine 8xMSAA with "only" 4xSGSSAA, if every guide tells to match those two, means 8xMSAA with 8xSGSSAA or 4xMSAA with 4xSGSSAA?

Last: do you really see a difference compared to 4xSSAA or even 8xSSAA inside your P3D? Is it only placebo?

[fghdgdfdfgfgf 111]

2 minutes ago, AnkH said:

Please show me an article that SSAA and SGSSAA is something different. An article, not a user review on another forum...

Then: why do you combine 8xMSAA with "only" 4xSGSSAA, if every guide tells to match those two, means 8xMSAA with 8xSGSSAA or 4xMSAA with 4xSGSSAA?

Last: do you really see a difference compared to 4xSSAA or even 8xSSAA inside your P3D? Is it only placebo?

I would suggest you do your own research.

But I would ponder this: P3d's AA is not Nivida's driver level AA.

[Christopher Low 5,353]

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Please show me an article that SSAA and SGSSAA is something different.

Well, there are separate options for SSAA and SGSS AA in Nvidia Inspector for starters. Even 2x SGSS is better than 8x SSAA in Nvidia Inspector on my PC, but still nowhere near as good as 4x SGSS.

Edited November 5, 2018 by Christopher Low

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15 hours ago, spilok said:

The scenery is crystal clear as long as the eye can see, and the smoothness....ah, the smoothness, it's unbelievable, even in dense airports.

Ah, yes, which is why we get topics about blurries and stutters almost daily... 😎 

I can see textures loading very obviously in P3D so I wouldn't say it's crystal clear as long as the eye can see. And smoothness... did you ever try Aerofly FS 2? After flying in that one it's impossible to say P3D has unbelievable smoothness, even in dense airports... But well, I am glad you are happy with your setup. 😉 P3D still is my main sim though, but only because of all the addons that make the experience complete. Absolutely NOT because of crystal clear scenery and smoothness.

[mmann 72]

15 hours ago, spilok said:

NO MORE TWEAKING!  How does that sound?   With P3d v4, and all P3d's before, there is NO MORE TWEAKING.

But be Prepar3d to do a great deal more adjustments within the sim itself!

Even spending time working with the Graphics - Display settings in P3D, I still get way more sparkling, shimmering textures than I ever see in FSX. I have to crank the AA up to 8xSSAA in P3D and I still don't enjoy the level of anti-aliasing that FSX can get with 4x Sparse Grid Supersampling in NVIDIA Inspector.

I do appreciate the better FPS that P3Dv4 gives, but I still fly FSX a lot because of the better looking graphics. To be honest, out of the box; X-Plane 11 makes both FSX and P3D look like the dated piece of software they are based on!

[Jude Bradley 659]

5 hours ago, Pat Mussotte said:

The only reason why I reinstalled and keep my fsx is to fly the PMDG MD11 with just the aiport I use for the most time. It's may be antiquated but for the time being it's the only way to fly the MD11(The only worth it IMO) without any kind of troubles like runway misalignement!

Regards

I've just done the same today for the same reason, (waiting patiently for the X-Plane 11 version to come along). 

 

[shivers9 1,174]

Well just an idea to ponder here......I like to look out and see some nice scenery but I don't think I am as critical about scenery as some folks. My mind set has always been that FSX-Prepar3d-and even X-plain are designed primary to be more of a flight simulator and less a scenery simulator. It helps keep me a bit more sane. P3D is not perfect but for simulating systems and flights it is getting pretty good.

[vc10man 732]

1 hour ago, Jude Bradley said:

I've just done the same today for the same reason,

Ditto here too

[Christopher Low 5,353]

Good quality scenery will always be important to me. It is just as important as the visual quality of the flight deck, the accuracy of the flight dynamics, and the fidelity of the sound effects. It is why I prefer to fly "low and slow", even though I fly PMDG airliners. The quality has to be high enough in all areas of the simulator before it is given the Chris Low seal of approval

[Simicro 247]

Regarding Nvidia Inspector, not everybody feel comfortable using it to tweak or do settings? Personally I try to be happy avoiding as much as possible the use of utilities.

Agree that FSX'ers do not necessarily read this forum and our mates sticking to FSX do so for mostly financial reasons (cost of hardware and addon upgrades, etc.). Sincerely I hope that they will be able to move to P3D as soon as their budget allows or as they desire.

Anyway, for FSX'er s who are more into flying than tweaking, P3D is a good news, even if they cannot do the move right  now.

Edited November 5, 2018 by Simicro