FSX wont detect Joystick

[DominusLux 1]

Im using a Logitech Extreme 3D Pro joystick and have been for years with FSX and Windows 10, Last time i flew with it was Tuesday night and it was working perfectly fine. Since then ive touched nothing and only changes to FSX was uninstalling World of AI then on thursday when i sit down to fly, the joystick wont work.... Windows sees the device in Device Manager and in hardware and devices and i can even check and adjust its calibration but FSX doesnt see it, the only options in FSX controls are Mouse Look and Mouse yoke. ive tried changing power settings for the computer and individual usb ports, tried getting the latest drivers from logitech's website for the Extreme3D Pro, and tried a completely fresh FSX installation but still no joystick. im at a loss and hoping anyone has any experience or tips i can try to get it working...i bought this joystick only 2 months ago to replace my other aging extreme 3D Pro which has worked for years with no issue.

 

thanks in advance.

[vortex681 806]

Backup your fsx.cfg file (without FSX running) and then delete the original and start FSX and allow it to rebuild the .cfg file. If it all works, re-apply any tweaks you made to the file. If it doesn't work, just delete the new file and restore the backup.

[DominusLux 1]

3 hours ago, vortex681 said:

Backup your fsx.cfg file (without FSX running) and then delete the original and start FSX and allow it to rebuild the .cfg file. If it all works, re-apply any tweaks you made to the file. If it doesn't work, just delete the new file and restore the backup.

tried that before a fresh reinstall and it didnt work, joystick still doesnt show up in crontrols

[charliearon 3,023]

Have you tried CTRL+K  (Joystick on/off)?  In the FSX/Controls section...have you tried resetting defaults?

[Jethro 65]

Considering your old E3DPro was just old but not malfunctioning, and new is just new and therefore better tighter. What about plugging your original E3DPro back in, see if it is properly detected and working in FSX, then plug your new one in (same USB port) see if the results have improved,  it wouldn't be the first time new hardware has had an electronic component failure.

Edited November 10, 2018 by Jethro

[DominusLux 1]

tried the control + K and even resetting everything in the controls settings to default.

Ive tried the old E3DPro in each usb port, restarting FSX each time and even it isnt detected but still recognised by the computer. ive even tried uninstalling and reinstalling the device and drivers multiple times. ive even tried FSX in compatibility for windows 7 and as Administrator and still nothing

[Jim Young 2,356]

Did you check your anti-virus program and make sure nothing is in quarantine?  You will have to do this for Windows 10 Defender - Search Windows Security>Virus & Threat Protection>Threat History.  Windows Defender just loves to remove anything and place the file in quarantine.  Same goes with any anti-virus or anti-malware program you have installed.  When you installed/reinstalled the joystick driver, it probably quarantined something.

You state you tried starting FSX as Administrator.  This is not enough.  Right click FSX.exe, select Properties, Click on Compatibility tab, and then make sure fsx starts up for all users.

[DominusLux 1]

Checked Windows Defender and Malwarebytes, nothing detected or quarantined in the last month. yes i tried starting fsx as admin but ive also set the compatibility and run as admin in the properties for all users. not sure if it helps but i also tried setting permissions to full control for all users but still nothing.

Today i tried installing FSX to my main C drive instead of a second drive and yet again nothing. i can confirm the joystick works on the computer, tested with X-Plane Demo and i had full control so the problem somehow lies with FSX. 

[Jim Young 2,356]

45 minutes ago, DominusLux said:

tested with X-Plane Demo and i had full control so the problem somehow lies with FSX. 

This is why I think it is a permissions issue.  It is the only thing that makes sense.  I have a Microsoft Account and, in my Users Account I have the option to use my Microsoft Account or the local account.  I decided to change to the local account (or vice-versa.  Cannot recall).  When I changed accounts, all of my files suddenly went to read only.  Nothing was working properly.  I tried to remove the read only from all of the files but could not.  I went back to my previous user account and all was well again.  You might say this could never happen to you as the program was working great one night and not the next night and you did nothing to your computer.  Microsoft has a way of changing things when you are not looking with their Windows updates.

Another thing to try is to go to the standard.xml and rename it to standard.off, restart fsx and let it rebuild.  Standard is located in your user account/AppData/Roaming/Microsoft/FSX/Controls.

[DominusLux 1]

i agree, i feel like something happened with windows and fsx and messed with something. ive checked the permissions and they seem fine, set full controll for every group on the list and even added my own user which is a microsoft account, i dont have local account and still no luck.

i also made the standard.xml rebuild and still nothing.

[cmwest3 1]

The solution that worked for me was changing a few steam settings as I had purchased FSX through them. In the top left go to Steam->Settings->Controller->General Controller Settings and deselect everything. Then simply close out. Restart FSX and if you go to Controllers in the game under Settings your joystick should be there.

[DominusLux 1]

17 hours ago, cmwest3 said:

The solution that worked for me was changing a few steam settings as I had purchased FSX through them. In the top left go to Steam->Settings->Controller->General Controller Settings and deselect everything. Then simply close out. Restart FSX and if you go to Controllers in the game under Settings your joystick should be there.

you, good sir, are my savior. that actually worked!! never considered those settings before, perhaps i should have mentioned it was steam edition. thank you so much, now i can get back to my flying addiction xD

[waterman462 0]

Thanks for the advice!   My joystick suddenly stopped working in FSX.   I have FSX installed from Steam. I tried the fix in Steam (Steam must be started from the app tray and not from the desktop icon) described in a previous post, and Steam could see the joystick.  After unchecking all the boxes the Steam screen went black, and says no controller can be detected.  But after a couple more starts and stops of Steam and FSX, it finally detected the joystick with all the General Controller boxes unchecked.   So after stopping and restarting Steam several times, FS finally sees the joystick.  

Edited March 10, 2019 by waterman462
new info

[thpapak 0]

On 11/12/2018 at 8:09 AM, cmwest3 said:

The solution that worked for me was changing a few steam settings as I had purchased FSX through them. In the top left go to Steam->Settings->Controller->General Controller Settings and deselect everything. Then simply close out. Restart FSX and if you go to Controllers in the game under Settings your joystick should be there.

Thank you sir! This is the solution I was looking for, after 3 hours of tweaking settings. I bought a Thrustmaster 1600 and although it was perfectly installed in Windows 10, Steam FSX couldn't find it. Your solution made me smile again :) 

[o0OHypnoticO0o 0]

This helped me:

https://flightsimulator.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/360016005980-Peripheral-Troubleshooting-on-Steam