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P3D running but CPU not running at max speed

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Pete is right. Some addon AI aircraft may be corrupt.

I had the same. No crashes but a framerate dropping over time...


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I understand UT live is no longer being developed.

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2 hours ago, IanHarrison said:

I understand UT live is no longer being developed.

Hi Ian,

While this unexpected revelation may be true, I’m sure that I’m not alone in wanting further details before arriving at a judgement. For example, where did you source this info and can you confirm the veracity of the content?

Regards,

Mike

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2 hours ago, IanHarrison said:

I understand UT live is no longer being developed.

Wrong.


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Just now, Cruachan said:

Hi Ian,

While this unexpected revelation may be true, I’m sure that I’m not alone in wanting further details before arriving at a judgement. For example, where did you source this info and can you confirm the veracity of the content?

Regards,

Mike

He can't because it is not true.


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14 minutes ago, pgde said:

He can't because it is not true.

That may be correct. However, until we have more detail from Ian or you can support your contra assertion then we all remain in a state of limbo. Lack of evidence does not make it true.

Mike

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Unlike stated on codelegend forum P3Dv4 works much better with 11.11.11.01 affinity on a 4-core CPU.  😊

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5 hours ago, Dirk98 said:

Unlike stated on codelegend forum P3Dv4 works much better with 11.11.11.01 affinity on a 4-core CPU.  😊

Anyone can tell you that's a typical AM as mentioned in my many posts and pages related to it. Only someone that doesn't understand would say something like that Dirk. Also your test method is not clear and the result of performance could be from any kind of set of factors - lol.

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15 hours ago, Ray Proudfoot said:

@SteveW, I appreciate your posts and your efforts to educate me on the finer points of getting the best out of P3D. I will look at your forum in slower time when things here have calmed down a bit. I've spent a lot of time on P3D in the last couple of weeks and my ability to absorb new information is just not there at the moment.

My priority is trying to solve the problem of why P3D crashes on first load but not on subsequent ones.

Cheers Ray, I understand. However, I still feel you may missed my point entirely in that by applying VSync you limited the CPU throughput giving you rise for concern that you no longer saw near 100%. Because you saw the flicker and found applying VSync stops that behaviour.

To your other concern - did P3D load OK every time before you made any adjustments or added in any stuff?


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I know you're only on a wind up Dirk lol, but let's go over the rules:

Make sure the AM excludes one LP from the first core met by the app:
 

so 11,11,11,01 seems good with 01 on the right - check.

Use the rest of the LPs to limit them to what's needed.

OK well you're limited by the chip with only three more cores left so with a bigger CPU you might do that.

 

So where's the problem? I see none.

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5 hours ago, Dirk98 said:

P3Dv4 works much better with 11.11.11.01 affinity on a 4-core CPU.

By the way - doesn't this say at least that the effort to check out the use of AMs was worth it? At least with that setup. it is possible that can be improved on but it would be on a per system basis. Otherwise that's typical of the recommendation I've been making from when multicore arrived.

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5 hours ago, Dirk98 said:

Unlike stated on codelegend forum P3Dv4 works much better with 11.11.11.01 affinity on a 4-core CPU.  😊

Yes - pretty obviously this comment is very annoying - since you well know that almost single handedly I've been trying to champion this kind of understanding into the community. The AM's on the site don't represent the best or worst setting - they represent examples of setting. So I wouldn't mind if you retracted this statement.

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7 hours ago, Cruachan said:

Hi Ian,

While this unexpected revelation may be true, I’m sure that I’m not alone in wanting further details before arriving at a judgement. For example, where did you source this info and can you confirm the veracity of the content?

Regards,

Mike

As far as I know the project has not been terminated but sometimes things get in the way of continuous development cycles.

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8 hours ago, SteveW said:

Cheers Ray, I understand. However, I still feel you may missed my point entirely in that by applying VSync you limited the CPU throughput giving you rise for concern that you no longer saw near 100%. Because you saw the flicker and found applying VSync stops that behaviour.

To your other concern - did P3D load OK every time before you made any adjustments or added in any stuff?

I monitored CPU usage using CPU-Z and on all cores the max was around 4.4 or thereabouts. Are you saying that is throttled back with VSync enabled? I temporarily disabled VSync and Triple Buffering expecting CPU usage to rise but it didn't. Why? Turbo Boost is enabled in the BIOS so why didn't CPU speed rise to 5.0?

I wonder what will happen later this week when I swap my 1920*1080 display for a 3840*2160 one. I'm not expecting fps to remain around 60 (airborne) but I wonder how much they will change. The monitor (BenQ PD3200U) does have a 30Hz option so that could be helpful.

To answer that question it's hard to recall because I had such a horrendous time trying to get MyTraffic6 to run and it would cause P3D to crash before the free flight screen. But I did have GoFlight, FSUIPC5 and ChasePlane entries. Oh, plus the one AS16 adds. But that's it. Nothing else.

I removed all entries in DLL.XML and EXE.XML bar the default single entries and P3D loaded okay. I rebooted and added FSUIPC5 to  DLL.XML and P3D crashed before the free flight screen. So logically FSUIPC5 was the cause. But I know it isn't. I restored my original XML files and rebooted. Crash before free flight screen.

I waited for everything to close and launched it again. Free Flight screen shows fine and P3D runs fine. I'm struggling for a solution and for now just accept P3D will crash on first launch but thereafter will be fine.


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9 hours ago, SteveW said:

Anyone can tell you that's a typical AM as mentioned in my many posts and pages related to it. Only someone that doesn't understand would say something like that Dirk. Also your test method is not clear and the result of performance could be from any kind of set of factors - lol.

I'll try it then, sounds intriguing!! :biggrin:

 

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