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[Skywolf 992]

@rudi0310 Hey do you know if this DA62 simulate rain/snow effects on the windows?

Edited December 1, 2018 by Skywolf

[Indy511 686]

5 minutes ago, Skywolf said:

@rudi0310 Hey do you know if this DA62 simulate rain/snow effects on the windows?

Was wondering the same thing. Can't imagine it not.

Or it could utilize A2A's rain effect.

Edited December 1, 2018 by BillS511

[jabloomf1230 2,445]

57 minutes ago, Daedalus said:

I don't see what is that worries you guys regarding the Navdata/sidstars. If the Vertx DA62 reads everything that its in the simulator which we can keep up to date through the fsAerodata updates, doesn't that mean that the G1000 will always be up to date?

If that's the way it works it will operate correctly with the latest Navigraph data because that's what fsaerodata uses. What it won't update is any approach, departure or arrival type that can't be coded into a P3d4 airport BGL file. A good example of a similar BGL shortcoming is that codes like    DSARK5 have to be abbreviated to 5 characters in the sim.

https://www.prepar3d.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=124622

[shivers9 1,174]

Lots of questions! Let's not beat up Vertx and start reducing the price because of Navigraph data. At least let the thing get released. Vertx is , like all Flight Sim models confined to what the software will do. Many of us grew up flying in a cardboard box with a piece of broom stick and we could go right along with Sky King. I am sure we can find a way to live with this.👽

[rudi0310 82]

At the moment no true glass or similar.

You will be happy about the price. Ok, there are always some people unhappy with every price.

The DA62 does not read external navigation data source files. This is the normal procedure Navigraph data are used. So this is not possible.

The DA62 uses Prepar3D`s internal database.

This should be a sufficient solution. How FSAerodata works:

Step 1 you are a Navigraph subscriber and are therefore authorized to use the newest AIRAC

Step 2 you are a FSAerodata subscriber (they check if you are a Navigraph subscriber also) and download their newest data set based on the newest Navigraph AIRAC and install this into your Prepar3D

All aircraft you have installed and use the Prepar3D as data source can use now newest Navigraph AIRAC including newest procedures. Including the DA62

To see what FSAerodata can do goto this posting https://www.avsim.com/forums/topic/545408-vertx-da-62-news/?do=findComment&comment=3934080 or to the FSAerodata website  https://www.fsaerodata.com/

I am not a FSAerodata user. Yet. There are other beta testers who might acknowledge or correct me. FSAerodata users, please correct me, if I am wrong.

Those wo did not watch it yet might watch my video, which also covers some questions in detail and offers some solutions regarding navigation:

https://youtu.be/f_0YnlbTMH8

Little Navmap can also be updated with latest Navigraph AIRAC but I agree this is too much work inflight while communicating with ATC.

Hope this helps. A little.

Edited December 1, 2018 by rudi0310
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[rudi0310 82]

2 hours ago, jabloomf1230 said:

If that's the way it works it will operate correctly with the latest Navigraph data because that's what fsaerodata uses. What it won't update is any approach, departure or arrival type that can't be coded into a P3d4 airport BGL file. A good example of a similar BGL shortcoming is that codes like    DSARK5 have to be abbreviated to 5 characters in the sim.

https://www.prepar3d.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=124622

OK, this is a limitation.

[pracines 823]

3 hours ago, Daedalus said:

I don't see what is that worries you guys regarding the Navdata/sidstars. If the Vertx DA62 reads everything that its in the simulator which we can keep up to date through the fsAerodata updates, doesn't that mean that the G1000 will always be up to date?

No it does not mean the Vertx G1000 is up to date, because a G1000 will store airport approach and departure procedures and these are updated monthly.

FSAerodata can only update DEFAULT P3D GPS units.

Maybe there will be an announcement, but until then, FSAerodata DOES NOT update the Vertx G1000 with approach/departure procedures.

 

[ComSimPilot 623]

25 minutes ago, pracines said:

No it does not mean the Vertx G1000 is up to date, because a G1000 will store airport approach and departure procedures and these are updated monthly.

FSAerodata can only update DEFAULT P3D GPS units.

Maybe there will be an announcement, but until then, FSAerodata DOES NOT update the Vertx G1000 with approach/departure procedures.

 

My understanding is that fsAerodata updates default GPS units because these units are sourcing their data directly from P3D. In the same way, the G1000 can be made to source its data (navaids/sidstars etc.) from P3D. fsAerodata are updated monthly using Navigraph. So, how you are sure that the G1000 that Vertx has made is not working this way, including approach/departure procedures?

Edited December 1, 2018 by Daedalus

[Skywolf 992]

We need Sean to chime in...where is he? Hi Sean 😊

[pracines 823]

2 minutes ago, Daedalus said:

My understanding is that FSAerodata updates default GPS units because these units are sourcing their data directly from P3D. In the same way, the G1000 can be made to source its data (navaids/sidstars etc.) from P3D. fsAerodata are updated monthly using Navigraph. So, how you are sure that the G1000 that Vertx has made is not working this way?

I'm not sure, but since you say "my understanding", you don't sound sure either. If you are correct (and I do want you to be correct), then problem solved.

But looking at the promo vid there was no indication that even outdated sids/stars/app could be selected directly from the G1000. There was a distinct need to go to LNM to get current procedures.

In summary, I want to be able to select procedures (SID/STAR/APP) from within the Vertx DA62 G1000, and I want them to be current. If this is possible, I'm happy, and will intend to be a day 1 customer. If this is not possible then I already have a GTN 650/750 that is outdated but functions fine.

[WarpD 824]

The default GPS uses the sim's core database.  FSAeroData updates the sim's core database.

However, the core sim's database does not support LPV approaches.  There is no vertical guidance, no glidepath, no data to even define a glidepath.

[Reader 2,009]

4 hours ago, edpatino said:

Yes, of course, this is just my opinion. Probably the other option is overpriced. Not trying to offend anyone.

Cheers, Ed

but at the same time potentially managing to offend everyone😑

[rudi0310 82]

34 minutes ago, pracines said:

But looking at the promo vid there was no indication that even outdated sids/stars/app could be selected directly from the G1000. There was a distinct need to go to LNM to get current procedures.

The video got with 30+ minutes much longer than planned first. Could by far not show all features in that time. Of course sid/star/app can be selected directly in the G1000. There might be exceptions. jabloomf1230 named one. 

Regarding LPV I can say nothing at the moment.

Did see this thread very late. No clue why there was an urge need to open a new thread when there already was a "Vertx News" thread.

[DavidP 1,408]

You really have to hand it to simmers.

Here we have a new product that looks awesome produced by someone with the reputation of Sean and you are speculating and arguing about the navigation database 🙄.

Here's suggestion: if you hear nothing official, why not wait until the product is released? If you aren't prepared to buy, wait until those of us do and can report back and see how this has been implemented.

Honestly, some of you would argue about two flies crawling up a wall.

[Skywolf 992]

2 hours ago, rudi0310 said:

At the moment no true glass or similar.

Thanks for the update.  I hope you can ask Sean if he would down the road try to implement A2A Rain effects (as it is free for all developers now).  

Really appreciate the work done on this.  Looking forward to release 

PS - if you guys need last minute beta testers - count me in 😊