Flightbeam KPHX Airport with P3Dv4.4 Performance Question?

[joepoway 241]

I was wondering if anyone has noticed a performance issue in terms of frames and therefore micro stutters with Flighbeam's KPHX since upgrading to P3Dv4.4? 

I have all the Flightbeam airports and have had no issues with holding in excess of 30 fps for my Vsync'd 30 Hz monitor including KPHX. However since I have upgraded to P3Dv4.4 which I am very happy with I can no longer maintain the 30 fps with only this one airport. All my Orbx and other FB airports are working as well or better then they did in v4.3 but this one particular airport is now not behaving as it did. As a note I run Orbx Global and Base with this airport but not Vectors. As I said it used to be fine and all the other FB airports still perform well.

Has anyone else noticed a frames drop with FB KPHX in P3D v4.4?

Thanks in advance

Joe

Edited December 7, 2018 by joepoway

[cannonplug 126]

3 hours ago, joepoway said:

Has anyone else noticed a frames drop with FB KPHX in P3D v4.4?

Yes, I have. But I didn't realize it was a problem with KPHX only. Since I updated, I haven't had a chance to go flying. I just happened to quickly spawn at KPHX a few days ago. That's when I noticed a drop in FPS from 4.3. I was disappointed after having seen so many reports of performance gains from others, so I was going to troubleshoot tomorrow when I have a bit more time. Now it seems it's something not unique to my system. I'll be trying out other airports to see whether it is indeed only affecting KPHX on my side as well.

[SunDevil56 183]

I have not noticed any performance drop in any of the Flightbeam sceneries that I have installed with v4.4, and that includes KPHX, KIAD, and KDEN. On the contrary, i'm seeing a slight increase in performance, on the order of 5 to 7 FPS on average, and it's ultra smooth, no stuttering, pausing, or hesitation of any kind. To put this in perspective, I ran all my scenery sliders to the max after installing v4.4 (they were already maxed, or very near) just to see what would happen, and was pleasantly surprised to see no degradation in performance, and in many cases a slight increase. I should also note that I run UT Live for AI airline traffic set @ 100% (AI traffic can be a notorious frame rate killer) and can see no dramatic effect on performance. Turning AI down to say 75 or 80% will give me a few more frames to be sure, but I have enough "headroom" that it's hardly ever necessary.

To say that i'm tickled with the performance in v4.4 would be a fair statement, and I love Flightbeam sceneries, I just wish they would do some more, and i'd like to see them do more of the mid-size airports like Wichita Mid-Continent (KICT) or Hollywood-Ft. Lauderdale (KFLL) for example, but almost anything they would do would be well received by most people I think.

Do either of you guys have Flightbeam's KSFO HD, and if so how does it perform. I'm thinking seriously about adding it and it's always nice to hear from others that actually use something before buying.

Edited December 7, 2018 by SunDevil56
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[CFIJose 5,485]

14 hours ago, joepoway said:

I was wondering if anyone has noticed a performance issue in terms of frames and therefore micro stutters with Flighbeam's KPHX since upgrading to P3Dv4.4? 

I have all the Flightbeam airports and have had no issues with holding in excess of 30 fps for my Vsync'd 30 Hz monitor including KPHX. However since I have upgraded to P3Dv4.4 which I am very happy with I can no longer maintain the 30 fps with only this one airport. All my Orbx and other FB airports are working as well or better then they did in v4.3 but this one particular airport is now not behaving as it did. As a note I run Orbx Global and Base with this airport but not Vectors. As I said it used to be fine and all the other FB airports still perform well.

Has anyone else noticed a frames drop with FB KPHX in P3D v4.4?

Thanks in advance

Joe

No issues with fps in v4.4.

[joepoway 241]

1 hour ago, SunDevil56 said:

Do either of you guys have Flightbeam's KSFO HD, and if so how does it perform. I'm thinking seriously about adding it and it's always nice to hear from others that actually use something before buying.

Yes I do and it runs very well, it’s my default go to airport!

I still can’t figure out why only KPHX is having issues for me?

Joe

[Tino 80]

1 hour ago, joepoway said:

Yes I do and it runs very well, it’s my default go to airport!

I still can’t figure out why only KPHX is having issues for me?

Joe

Hi Joe,

This sounds a little odd. I haven't noticed any performance issues myself. Actually saw the opposite. 

Jump over to our forums and we will be able to investigate.

Cheers.

[newtie 533]

2 hours ago, joepoway said:

Yes I do and it runs very well, it’s my default go to airport!

I still can’t figure out why only KPHX is having issues for me?

Joe

Clear your Shaders folder.

Cheers,

Mark

[SunDevil56 183]

1 hour ago, Tino said:

Hi Joe,

This sounds a little odd. I haven't noticed any performance issues myself. Actually saw the opposite. 

Jump over to our forums and we will be able to investigate.

Cheers.

Hey Tino, I just downloaded and installed KMSP and like KIAD, KPHX, and KDEN I can see no performance drop in v4.4, which is great, and i'll probably add KSFO here in the very near future.

Do you guys have other sceneries in the mill. and if so what..??

Edited December 7, 2018 by SunDevil56

[pgde 571]

Hey Sundevil56 -- KPDX is next and my experience with PHX and other FB airports is the same as yours. Love their products!

Happy Holidays....

P. 

[Shylock_35 43]

6 hours ago, DJJose said:

No issues with fps in v4.4.

Gotta love FB sceneries and then you look outside their product and ah yes the rolling green land of Arizona. I wish ORBX could come up with a fix for that. I have noticed only a small drop off of FPS after initial install of the client but after deleting shaders and CFG everything seems back to normal. 

[ZKOKQ 984]

2 hours ago, pgde said:

KPDX is next

No, NZWN is next then KPDX

[CFIJose 5,485]

18 minutes ago, Shylock_35 said:

Gotta love FB sceneries and then you look outside their product and ah yes the rolling green land of Arizona. I wish ORBX could come up with a fix for that. I have noticed only a small drop off of FPS after initial install of the client but after deleting shaders and CFG everything seems back to normal. 

I agree. The ftx colors are way off.

[Guest]

I believe FB's new control panel interface has a troubleshooter section that will scan for conflicts, might want to use that to check for issues.

Cheers, Rob.

[SunDevil56 183]

22 minutes ago, DJJose said:

I agree. The ftx colors are way off.

I don't know guys.... I have FTX, as well as all the ORBX landclass sceneries and vector running with Flightbeam KPHX, and the textures look ok to me. The screenies below will illustrate my point. 

Now granted, the small patches of heavily forested areas look out of place in the Phoenix metro area compared to "real world" (I grew up in the area and have flown over it dozens of times) but overall the textures look fine to me.

https://imgur.com/kshCnNI

https://imgur.com/8gin9fC

[CFIJose 5,485]

30 minutes ago, SunDevil56 said:

I don't know guys.... I have FTX, as well as all the ORBX landclass sceneries and vector running with Flightbeam KPHX, and the textures look ok to me. The screenies below will illustrate my point. 

Now granted, the small patches of heavily forested areas look out of place in the Phoenix metro area compared to "real world" (I grew up in the area and have flown over it dozens of times) but overall the textures look fine to me.

https://imgur.com/kshCnNI

https://imgur.com/8gin9fC

The ground colors should be more toward the brown side and not green. The airport displays the right colors, but you can clearly see that FTXG & LC combo fail to blend well with this wonderful airport. This should have been addressed by ORBX a long tie ago.