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Forget the overpriced, high heat 2080 TI, the GTX 2080 is the answer especially if upgrading from a 10X SLI system.  As usual DO NOT OC your RTX 2080 but possibly get a 3rd party OC'd board.  

Really best IQ. Unlimited Frames. No VSync. 150 fps xCross.

 

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59 minutes ago, bean_sprout said:

Forget the overpriced, high heat 2080 TI, the GTX 2080 is the answer especially if upgrading from a 10X SLI system.  As usual DO NOT OC your RTX 2080 but possibly get a 3rd party OC'd board.  

Really best IQ. Unlimited Frames. No VSync. 150 fps xCross.

I take it you run unlimited frames.  What cpu do you have, may I ask?

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A lot of UK cheaper and good system suppliers seem to have run out of GTX 1080s and GTX1080ti. Some are offering decent systems but they nearly all have RTX 2070s or 2080s which appear to be cheaper at the moment than GTX equivalents (Bitcoin strikes again?). I really have no use for ray tracing or overheating and I'm wondering whether a GTX 1070ti will be sufficient if I upgrade? There are plenty of those available. The GTX 1080/2080 seems to be more expensive at the moment than the RTXs if you include them with a new system.

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I'm running 7700K @ 5.1ghz.  Looking at a 9900K in the near future.  AFAIK the ti versions will generate more heat but if you have a good cooling solution and don't mind fan noise or the extremely high cost... well.

For performance the RTX 2080 does 150+ fps xCountry (no vsync / unlimited) running quiet with a hybrid factory cooler.  The cost is still ~$900 which is the most I ever paid for a GPU.

My screen is a 4096 x 2160 HD curved OLED, no config tweeks and looking way better than the 1070's that the 2080 replaced.

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Is it my imagination or do I always upgrade right before the greatest, best ever, most amazing chip and board are released?  (Currently 8700K and 1080Ti) ?

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I currently have a 2GB GTX 770 graphics card in my i5 4690k @ 4.3Ghz/16GB DDR3-1600 RAM powered PC. I am wondering if a modest upgrade would make any difference in P3D v4? I guess that more VRAM would be good, but would (for example) a GTX 1070 provide any performance improvements that would be worth the cost? I run P3D on a single 24" widescreen monitor @ 1920x1080 resolution.

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Just upgraded to a 2080 from a 1070 and I’m really happy with my decision. It’s working extremely well with my 9700k at 5ghz. 

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1 hour ago, Christopher Low said:

I currently have a 2GB GTX 770 graphics card in my i5 4690k @ 4.3Ghz/16GB DDR3-1600 RAM powered PC. I am wondering if a modest upgrade would make any difference in P3D v4? I guess that more VRAM would be good, but would (for example) a GTX 1070 provide any performance improvements that would be worth the cost? I run P3D on a single 24" widescreen monitor @ 1920x1080 resolution.

Upgrade both so you don't have a bottleneck.

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1 hour ago, Christopher Low said:

I currently have a 2GB GTX 770 graphics card in my i5 4690k @ 4.3Ghz/16GB DDR3-1600 RAM powered PC. I am wondering if a modest upgrade would make any difference in P3D v4? I guess that more VRAM would be good, but would (for example) a GTX 1070 provide any performance improvements that would be worth the cost? I run P3D on a single 24" widescreen monitor @ 1920x1080 resolution.

Upgrade both so you don't have a bottleneck.

Cheers
bs

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1 hour ago, Christopher Low said:

I currently have a 2GB GTX 770 graphics card in my i5 4690k @ 4.3Ghz/16GB DDR3-1600 RAM powered PC. I am wondering if a modest upgrade would make any difference in P3D v4? I guess that more VRAM would be good, but would (for example) a GTX 1070 provide any performance improvements that would be worth the cost? I run P3D on a single 24" widescreen monitor @ 1920x1080 resolution.

I went from a 770 to a 1070 and believe it is one of the best things I ever did..

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There's never a perfect time to upgrade.  I spent 5K on PC parts for a decked-out rackmount PC in 1994 that my cell phone could probably now outrun.  Nature of the beast.

If anything, it seems the pace of required hardware upgrading has slowed down a bit.  I'm hoping the next major "gains" for Prepar3D will be engineering enhancements to the code base.

Mark

 

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2 hours ago, bean_sprout said:

My screen is a 4096 x 2160 HD curved OLED, no config tweeks and looking way better than the 1070's that the 2080 replaced.

Are you certain? The OLED TVs I know of are 3840*2160. That’s 1920*1080 times two aka UHD.

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Mark-

 

I'd HAPPILY stay "feature" stagnant if we could just offload ALL graphics to the GPU and FULLY optimize multi threaded processing- THAT WOULD BE A FANTASTIC v5- WORTH CELEBRATING!

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16 minutes ago, bean_sprout said:

It's a virtual size but is supported by the LG.

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bs

If you’re reacting to my post it helps if you quote me. You should always run at native resolution otherwise the image quality will suffer.

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41 minutes ago, Ray Proudfoot said:

Are you certain? The OLED TVs I know of are 3840*2160. That’s 1920*1080 times two aka UHD.

There are some 4096x2160 displays, such as the LG 31MU97-B, a 31" display. There are more, but I suspect currently not many in the UK.

My new Sony projector is also true cinema 4K (and with a laser lamp too, just like the cinema ones 😉).  True, there isn't much material for home users to play at that resolution, but there are consumer video cameras already doing it.

I haven't tried anything at such a resolution yet, not even UHD, though the Samsung screen for my VFR (Piper) cockpit installation is "4K" I've not checked its actual resolution -- the PC I'm using for it needs sorting out first.

The curved Dell screen I'm using for this is 3440x1440, which I though was pretty impressive at the time! (Years ago).

Pete

 

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3 hours ago, MarkW said:

Is it my imagination or do I always upgrade right before the greatest, best ever, most amazing chip and board are released?  (Currently 8700K and 1080Ti) ?

Of course -- that's the Golden Rule of upgrading!  ha ha. 

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19 minutes ago, Pete Dowson said:

There are some 4096x2160 displays, such as the LG 31MU97-B, a 31" display. There are more, but I suspect currently not many in the UK.

My new Sony projector is also true cinema 4K (and with a laser lamp too, just like the cinema ones 😉).  True, there isn't much material for home users to play at that resolution, but there are consumer video cameras already doing it.

I haven't tried anything at such a resolution yet, not even UHD, though the Samsung screen for my VFR (Piper) cockpit installation is "4K" I've not checked its actual resolution -- the PC I'm using for it needs sorting out first.

The curved Dell screen I'm using for this is 3440x1440, which I though was pretty impressive at the time! (Years ago).

Pete

That LG is an oddity. Only 31” diagonal and 17:9 ratio. Reminds me of my Dell 24” 1920*1200. Soon after they lowered the vertical to 1080.

I know projectors can be 4096 but not many have them in home cockpits.

I’d be surprised if your Samsung is 4096. That would be out of step with their other “4K” TVs.

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Anyone like to comment on the GTX 1070 TI as a reasonable compromise between the 1070 and 1080? It is very much less expensive than the 1080 and staggeringly cheaper than the 1080ti. It does lag behind a bit from examples I've seen, but not alarmingly so. Anyone here run it?

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Upgrade both so you don't have a bottleneck.

Yes, but upgrading both involves a lot more work and cost. I do not really have the money to upgrade much at the moment, so I was wondering what difference a 1070 would make to my existing system.

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5 hours ago, robert young said:

Anyone like to comment on the GTX 1070 TI as a reasonable compromise between the 1070 and 1080? It is very much less expensive than the 1080 and staggeringly cheaper than the 1080ti. It does lag behind a bit from examples I've seen, but not alarmingly so. Anyone here run it?

Hello Robert,

I see from your other thread you're planning a new PC. I have no personal experience of the 1070Ti but judging from this comparison site it appears to be almost as powerful as the 1080 which was my previous card before my new system.

https://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-RTX-2080-vs-Nvidia-GTX-1070-Ti/4026vs3943

GIven you only intend to run at 1920*1080 and not UHD I think it will be a decent card for you. I would also suggest you look at the i7-8700K or even the i7-8086K if that is still available. Both are excellent CPUs that will transform your enjoyment of P3D. 16Gb of RAM is also fine. I went with 32Gb for future-proofing but there's no guarantee I'll ever need it.

With P3D v4.4 it now utilises all the virtual cores helping to spread the work load. The key to a good system is balance. No point having a Premier League goalkeeper with a League 1 centre-forward. :biggrin:

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2 hours ago, Ray Proudfoot said:

Hello Robert,

I see from your other thread you're planning a new PC. I have no personal experience of the 1070Ti but judging from this comparison site it appears to be almost as powerful as the 1080 which was my previous card before my new system.

https://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-RTX-2080-vs-Nvidia-GTX-1070-Ti/4026vs3943

GIven you only intend to run at 1920*1080 and not UHD I think it will be a decent card for you. I would also suggest you look at the i7-8700K or even the i7-8086K if that is still available. Both are excellent CPUs that will transform your enjoyment of P3D. 16Gb of RAM is also fine. I went with 32Gb for future-proofing but there's no guarantee I'll ever need it.

With P3D v4.4 it now utilises all the virtual cores helping to spread the work load. The key to a good system is balance. No point having a Premier League goalkeeper with a League 1 centre-forward. :biggrin:

Chelsea supporter ?

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8 hours ago, robert young said:

Anyone like to comment on the GTX 1070 TI as a reasonable compromise between the 1070 and 1080?

1070ti ftw! with the 1080 you would be able to set more cloud textures at 4096 but that's about it.

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34 minutes ago, byronp said:

Chelsea supporter ?

I support Liverpool. :smile:

33 minutes ago, jpf said:

1070ti ftw! with the 1080 you would be able to set more cloud textures at 4096 but that's about it.

Please explain what ftw means.

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17 minutes ago, Ray Proudfoot said:

 

Please explain what ftw means.

I'm not real up on all the netspeak jargon Ray, but I think it translates to "for the win"... lol

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