Would you welcome a payware Airbus A-220 for P3D v4...??  

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  1. 1. Would you welcome a payware Airbus A-220 for P3D v4...??

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About half a dozen airlines worldwide including Delta and Jetblue have a couple hundred of these aircraft on order, so they are going to be flying around the skies for some time to come. The A-220 is said to have the most sophisticated cockpit of any Bus to date, and it has the widest economy class seats of any commercial jet aircraft, which should appeal to travelers since cramped seating is one of the major complaints of airline passengers.

Virtualcol is said to be coming out with the A-220 100 and 300 series, I expect it will be the usual Virtualcol offering, ok for what it is, and inexpensive, the screenshots at the website only show the external model at the moment, but it looks pretty good, which is promising.

I'll probably get it, but personally I would like to see a developer like Aerosoft or Quality Wings do an A-220, i'm not looking for a study level sim here, but I would like to see something a little more polished and sophisticated than the usual Virtualcol stuff.

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The first question is, can the cockpit systems be developed accurately with reasonable FPS:

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From this picture is looks doable to be honest..

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Simbol

 

 

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A220 in PMDG quality - my dream 🙂

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I would like to see one of the high end developers tackle the A220.  It would be a good replacement for the CRJs.  

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There is one being developed for FSX by a new developer called WhiskeyJet Simulations. From the pictures and videos, it seems like it will have a decent enough system depth. However, at the moment it is purely being made for FSX. The developer has already been inundated with several requests to also bring it out for P3D but nobody has yet received a confirmation that it will be coming to any other platform.

Let's hope they can bring it to P3D.

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Yes, I would like to see a P3D version of the Airbus A220......but it would need to be a good quality rendition (in all departments). I am not interested in LITE products these days.

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A dream would for FSLabs to tackle it at some point...it is an Airbus now after all.

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1 hour ago, krazyk said:

There is one being developed for FSX by a new developer called WhiskeyJet Simulations. From the pictures and videos, it seems like it will have a decent enough system depth. However, at the moment it is purely being made for FSX. The developer has already been inundated with several requests to also bring it out for P3D but nobody has yet received a confirmation that it will be coming to any other platform.

Let's hope they can bring it to P3D.

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Starting at FSX is a terrible business move. It’s outdated and people are moving to P3D. Developers have dropped support. FSX has run its course

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Well, I suppose idealy there would be a high-end version and a mid range/lite version produced. I am not interested in HEAVY versions these days.       😉

Cheers!

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I've heard the issue with a hi-fidelity sim of the A220 is that all of the data and info is not available to do it right.

Maybe at some point one of the add-on companies with pull at Airbus, could get that info.  It's a neat airplane with an interesting past already.

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39 minutes ago, Chocorua said:

Well, I suppose idealy there would be a high-end version and a mid range/lite version produced. I am not interested in HEAVY versions these days.       😉

Cheers!

My thoughts exactly, and let's face it... To date PMDG is Boeing only, so they aren't likely going to do it, and Aerosoft is currently focused on tooling up their A330 for P3D v4, so it won't be coming from them anytime soon, if ever, so if we want this bird in P3D v4.x we are going to have to see what comes out from the lower end of the spectrum developers. In my view, that's not necessarily a bad thing, and who knows, it might even stimulate some interest and competition from the "big guns".

A couple of interesting videos...

https://www.cnn.com/videos/travel/2018/09/12/airbus-a220-cockpit-tour.cnn

 

 

 

 

 

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I don't recall any official PMDG position that we are Boeing only.

Just thought I would point that out, since it seems to be an oft repeated falsehood that might cause you to reach conclusions that are not supported by facts.

:ph34r:

 

 

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14 minutes ago, rsrandazzo said:

I don't recall any official PMDG position that we are Boeing only.

Just thought I would point that out, since it seems to be an oft repeated falsehood that might cause you to reach conclusions that are not supported by facts.

:ph34r:

 

That is correct. After all, they have been working on the Pogo Stick for quite some time now.  :cool:

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27 minutes ago, rsrandazzo said:

Just thought I would point that out, since it seems to be an oft repeated falsehood that might cause you to reach conclusions that are not supported by facts.

I remain hopeful that PMDG will generate new facts to specifically deny this falsehood.

 

Like, say, making a Falcon 8x? 😉

... Or pretty much any bizjet for that matter - the sim market has very high quality GA prop aircraft, and jetliners, but it's pretty hard to find a *really* good small jet.

 

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3 minutes ago, eslader said:

I remain hopeful that PMDG will generate new facts to specifically deny this falsehood.

 

Like, say, making a Falcon 8x? 😉

... Or pretty much any bizjet for that matter - the sim market has very high quality GA prop aircraft, and jetliners, but it's pretty hard to find a *really* good small jet.

 

I would spend the 200 bucks on a PMDG FA8X anyday

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Yeah. The "shut up and take my money" meme is pretty overused, but for me it definitely applies here. Right now in the bizjet world, it either looks good and works wrong, or works mostly well and looks like freeware. There's nothing even approaching a PMDG-level effort to be had anywhere.

 

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7 minutes ago, eslader said:

Yeah. The "shut up and take my money" meme is pretty overused, but for me it definitely applies here. Right now in the bizjet world, it either looks good and works wrong, or works mostly well and looks like freeware. There's nothing even approaching a PMDG-level effort to be had anywhere.

 

You've hit the nail on the head

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1 hour ago, rsrandazzo said:

I don't recall any official PMDG position that we are Boeing only.

Just thought I would point that out, since it seems to be an oft repeated falsehood that might cause you to reach conclusions that are not supported by facts.

:ph34r:

 

 

I didn't mean it in a literal sense, only that AFAIK know PMDG hasn't done a Bus so far....

Don't take things so personally, I meant no disrespect to PMDG or their product line, they aren't my personal "cup of tea", but I recognize that there are a lot of people that want that level of complexity and sophistication, and are willing to pay the price of admission..

When someone post's something like this on a forum, people sometimes tend to perceive a "slight" towards this or that add on, and this is a prime example.  It certainly wasn't my intention, that's for sure, and if I ruffled your feathers I apologize....

 

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3 hours ago, ryanbatcund said:

I would spend the 200 bucks on a PMDG FA8X anyday

Me too.

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7 hours ago, SunDevil56 said:

To date PMDG is Boeing only, so they aren't likely going to do it, and Aerosoft is currently focused on tooling up their A330 for P3D v4, so it won't be coming from them anytime soon, if ever

PMDG have done quite a lot of aircraft other than Boeings: Beechcraft 1900, Douglas DC-6, BAe Jetstream 41, and McDonnell Douglas MD-11 (the last type was briefly marketed by Boeing, but it was definitely a McDonnell Douglas product). In fact, if you include literally every aeroplane type PMDG have made versions of for a simulator, it's five main Boeing 700 series aircraft types, and four from manufacturers other than Boeing, so that makes them a bit more like 60/40 Boeing than 'Boeing only'.

Similarly, whilst Aerosoft do develop their own stuff and are making an A330, they also act as brokers for other products and on occasion take extant projects under their wing to market under their brand, so it's certainly not beyond the realms of possibility that they'd pick up another Airbus project and that might include an A220, perhaps even that WhiskeyJet one, you never know.

Whilst Virtualcol is typically on the cheap and cheerful end of things, I think they're gradually upping their game a bit when you look at progressive releases, so although I don't think they'll be knocking out a study sim any time soon, their stuff is certainly getting better and we may yet be at least somewhat pleasantly surprised by their A220.

 

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48 minutes ago, Chock said:

Whilst Virtualcol is typically on the cheap and cheerful end of things, I think they're gradually upping their game a bit when you look at progressive releases, so although I don't think they'll be knocking out a study sim any time soon, their stuff is certainly getting better and we may yet be at least somewhat pleasantly surprised by their A220.

 

Let's hope so Alan, I honestly don't think any other developer is going to put out an A220 anytime soon, but like you said... You never know...

FWIW, in 2019 Virtualcol is also (apparently) planning a Sukhoi Superjet 100, a sort of Russian "Airbusski"...😁

It will be interesting to see how that one works out, but i'm more interested in the A220, the Sukhoi hasn't really gained much of a market outside or Russia, with Aeroflot being the main user of the type.

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It needs to be in PMDG/FSLabs/Majestic level quality - otherwise no.

 

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4 hours ago, Skywolf said:

It needs to be in PMDG/FSLabs/Majestic level quality - otherwise no.

 

Agreed.  Also, as more people take to flying online, the demand for realistically functioning aircraft is much greater now than it has ever been.  The 'point in the general direction and fly'  or 'good enough' payware aircraft are becoming less and less appealing.

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My hope is that FSL will take it on after they have released all versions of the A330 (making an assumption here) in a couple years. By then, hopefully they would be able to gain enough access to the aircraft/manuals/pilots to be able to make it happen and we have an A220 released for P3D v6 in late 2022. It will overtake PMDG's 737 v3 as the premier airliner simulation. Leonardo releases their MD-90 in response. 

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After flying on Delta Airbus 220 between New York and Boston I have urge to fly it in P3D. So YES it would be welcomed addition.

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