vhaaland

Lorby Live traffic question on models

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Hi

I testet your program yesterdary, and I think it is very cool and fun to watch real life AI live. I didn't know this existed.

After testing a few hours, I have a question since a lot of models don't appear, but they do have model in the OpenSky Explorer:

They show up as default models, and lack ICAO code, but is it possible for your program to choose fallback model on the model field in the data feed?

Example from OpenSky Explorer:

HB-JXM (0x4b1a26)

ICAO ClassificationN/A N/A (N/A)

Category DescriptionN/A

ManufacturerAirbus

Model A320-214

Even if the field ICAO is empty, the first four letters og the model seem to be enough to choose the right model?

 

 

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Hi,

the OpenSky Explorer and the OpenSky API for remote access are not the same thing. The REST API doesn't have the aircraft type in any state vector field, nor does it have departure or arrival airports.

https://opensky-network.org/apidoc/rest.html

Additional data requests are necessary to get that information, and since the aircraft type is not available anywhere in the OpenSky API, a call to ADS-B Exchange is made. If that flight is available in that second database, and whatever data quality is presented, is beyond my control.

If you can manage to persuade OpenSky to add at least the ICAO aircraft type from their database to the API state vectors, things would probably look different. But for now this is what it is.

I regularly go through the available datasources, but this has been the only solutiuon for two years now that you don't have to pay for. But when I was on OpenSky today to check on the state of the API I saw something else that I would like to try, provided that I find the time. Please don't hold your breath though,,.

Using RealTraffic as datasource is much better, and if you want to see ground/parked traffic too, there always is the PSXSeeCon solution.

Best regards

 

Edited by Lorby_SI

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Thank you for your detailed answer and explaination. I understand then that It's only to hope that this ac type data also will be made available in the future then, and it's always the possibility for those who want to pay for the data.

I will keep testing your program, and explore how this adds value to the simulation. I tried a flight from KSFO-KPHX yesterday with your program running on my secondary PC, and it was really cool to see all those ac around you knowing they are actually there in real life at the same moment.

Anyways, I appreciate your efforts and thanks for sharing your FS-tools  to the community. Keep ut the good work.

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One more question if you don't mind. 

Would it be possible to make the program read an additional custom user edited xml file where you could match those missing ICAO24 codes with ICAO AC type? When you choose to replace a model in the list, it could sort of remember that particular ICAO24 code for the future, accumulating your own list? 

 

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40 minutes ago, vhaaland said:

One more question if you don't mind. 

Would it be possible to make the program read an additional custom user edited xml file where you could match those missing ICAO24 codes with ICAO AC type? When you choose to replace a model in the list, it could sort of remember that particular ICAO24 code for the future, accumulating your own list? 

 

Hi,

I have thought about that too today. There already is a similar feature in LLTX with the flights database, but I suspect that hardly anyone is using that. This database remembers flights, by their flight number. All I would have to do is add an additional key (so it works for both).

I will look into it right now.

Meanwhile I have uploaded a new version to the website that fixes a few bugs.

Best regards

Edited by Lorby_SI

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That sounds great. Think that will be a really neat addition, which makes a great difference, at least with the most common airframes in that particular area where you fly most. It should not be to much work to make a quick list for the airlines who fly most in your area.

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