Why isn't there a LOT more study level aircrafts?

[Wink207 78]

1 hour ago, signmanbob said:

To me "Study Level" is any aircraft that has a full array of systems along with failures that are simulated.  It also has to have amazing visual textures, since if it doesn't then that takes away a lot from the realism experience.

Some of the ones that I consider "Study Level"  or maybe close, off the top of my head:

• PMDG

• iFly

• Flightsim Labs

• Majestic

• Leonardo

• TFDi

• Flight Factor (X-Plane)

• Toliss (X-Plane)

• Aerosoft/Digital Aviation

•Vertical Reality

• Vertx

• FlyJSim (X-Plane)

• Flight1

• AirFoilLabs (X-Plane)

• Eaglesoft Development Group (Soon to release the Challenger 605 and Citation X for P3Dv4 )

Flysimware Lear 35 and Dassault F50 Falcon definitely belong on any such list.

[Buffy Foster 133]

7 minutes ago, Wink207 said:

Flysimware Lear 35 and Dassault F50 Falcon definitely belong on any such list.

Their Cessna 441 Conquest II does too, then, I think.  :)

[DaveCT2003 1,820]

31 minutes ago, mpw8679 said:

Ifly is basically Leonardo??  Seems u just want to start an argument.

Hahahahahahaha.  I questioned that too, but since i don't have any of the iFly products I didn't say anything.  I hear their products are pretty good, but up to Leonardo's?  I don't know about that.

 

[Bill Griffith 160]

    I have several (many) of the 'Study Level' aircraft and even being retired, I don't have the time that each one deserves.    How many is enough?  🙂 

I think that we, flight simmers, are lucky that there are so many dedicated developers out there producing these fine add-ons.  But that's just me.  😎

 

Bill

[Rocky_53 1,566]

I don't own it, but... Quality Wings 787?

[ShezA 176]

...and while we are at it, the new JustFlight tiddlers C152 and PA28....

[speedyTC 194]

You want study level? Get the 744. It should keep you busy for a while, provided you have the staying power.

[Nyxx 6,993]

"Study Level" P3D only

The top tier

FSL A320

FSL A319 <these are not just model differences its a different aircraft.

Hopefully soon A321

PMDG NG-777-747- -8

Leonardo MadDog

Majestic

2nd tier

iFly

TDFI

3rd Tier

Quality Wings 787

Captain Sim 757

Aerosoft 318-321

Not going to include small jets or GA's as their development time is a fraction of producing all of the above.

 

Edited January 12, 2019 by Nyxx

[fluffyflops 1,845]

You left out the black box range and the aerosoft crj. 😉 

That blackbox had been in beta nearly 10 years now.  Come on chock,  tell me its fab

[Ilari Kousa 116]

If you really want the ultimate in systems and aerodynamics on the PC, get the 744 PSX and use it with an external scenery generator of choice.

[Holdit 551]

1 hour ago, Nyxx said:

 

Not going to include small jets or GA's as their development time is a fraction of producing all of the above.

 

I'm not sure why development time counts. Surely it's the end product that determines whether an aircraft deserves the "study level" tag. I would include even the A2A Cub because although it's a very simple aircraft, it's modeled in terrific detail. Just because an aircraft doesn't have arrays of buttons that do lots of stuff doesn't mean there can't be a study level treatment of that aircraft.

[Nyxx 6,993]

I did not say it did count, did I? Just there a lot less complex. So I would not class them as the pinnacle of a complex aircraft to make.

Did I say they were not Study level? I just keep small jets and GA out of my list. ofc many GA and small jets are study level but its another class of aircraft. That personly I don't care for, so am not writing a list that's not my type. Better for GA flyers to do so.

 

Edited January 12, 2019 by Nyxx

[Ray Proudfoot 8,927]

@Nyxx, you didn't include the PMDG 737NGX. Overlooked or deliberate?

[Nyxx 6,993]

7 minutes ago, Ray Proudfoot said:

@Nyxx, you didn't include the PMDG 737NGX. Overlooked or deliberate?

Hi Ray, 

Yes I did it was the first one, I just droped the "X" as that's fsx terminology. hehe you must of mist it 🙂 

 

Edited January 12, 2019 by Nyxx

[Boomer 1,619]

This debate, hard core versus light weight jets, has been going on for 2 decades in the combat sim communities and never ends well.  The benchmark hardcore tactical combat sim is Falcon BMS.

Edited January 12, 2019 by Boomer
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