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Course Guidance only works in VLOC with AirFoilLabs 172

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I can probably guess at the answer to this problem, but I figure I'd throw it out there on the outside chance that someone has solved this.

Running AFL 172 with GNS530 v2.4.6.  If I go into VLOC and manually switch VOR1 head to NAV (it won't switch on its own when switching between VLOC and GPS), I can track a VOR perfectly and the needle is spot on.

However, if I pick a waypoint and go direct (or via a leg) in GPS mode, the needle stays dead centered and never moves.

Most likely, AFL are using custom datarefs which walk all over the standard ones.  And, as everyone pretty much knows, AFL have zero customer service so the chance of solving this via them is, well, zero.

Others experiencing this with the AFL 172?

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Hi,

You might want to give the latest v2.4.9 update a try then.

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On 3/10/2019 at 2:41 PM, RXP said:

Hi,

You might want to give the latest v2.4.9 update a try then.

Hey Jean-Luc,

I updated to the latest (2.4.10) and the problem is the same.

Are there options I should be selecting in the settings menu to get the GPS to work?

Thanks!

Paul

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Can you please post the content of the RealityXP.GNS.ini file?

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On 3/27/2019 at 12:59 PM, RXP said:

Can you please post the content of the RealityXP.GNS.ini file?

[GNS]
; comma separated list of gauges
gauges = GNS_530_1

[GNS_530_1]
; comma separated list of render targets.
drawto = WINDOW, PANELS
; is the master device if true.
MasterDevice = true
; connects GPS to copilot side if true.
CopilotSide = false
; selects COM/NAV Radios '1' or '2'.
RadiosPair = 1
; uses computer time if true, simulator time otherwise.
ComputerTime = false
; integral lighting rheostat index (0 to 3) or percent (-100 to 0)
Rheostat.Display = -100
; integral lighting rheostat index (0 to 3) or percent (-100 to 0)
Rheostat.Buttons = -75
; connects GPS to HSI if true.
LinkHsi = false
; connects GPS to HSI course motor if true.
LinkCrs = false
; connects GPS to OBS input if true (LinkHsi/OBS or AutoNavSource/OBS).
LinkObs = true
; connects GPS to VOR if true.
LinkVor = true
; connects GPS to Autopilot if true.
LinkOto = true
; connects CDI mode to NAV/GPS switch if true.
AutoNavGps = true
; override VLOC NAV# (1 or 2) or use 'RadiosPair' (0).
AutoNavSource = 0
; sets device power source: 
; ALWAYS_ON,AVIONICS_BUS,MAIN_BATTERY,BUS_1,BUS_2,BUS_3,BUS_4,BUS_5,BUS_6
PowerSource = AVIONICS_BUS
; sets device power knob switch mode: NONE,DEFAULT_ON,DEFAULT_OFF
PowerKnob = NONE
; enables Shadin Air Data computer if true.
UseAirData = true
; enables Shadin Fuel Data computer if true.
UseFuelData = true
; enables RYAN 9900BX TCAD if true.
UseRyanTcad = true
; sets TCAD sound alerts volume in percent: 0 to 100.
RyanTcadVolume = 50
; sets TCAD maximum number of targets to X-Plane AI Traffic Count.
UseTcadAiCount = true
; connects GPS #1 to GPS #2 if true (both required).
UseCrossFill = false
; enables device failures if true.
UseFailures = false
; uses Simulator GPS commands if true.
UseSimGpsCmds = true
; sets fuel type: AVGAS,JETA,JETB
FuelType = AVGAS
; sets TAWS type: TERR,TAWS
TawsMode = TERR
; sets TAWS surface: HARD,HARD_SOFT,WATER,ANY
TawsSurface = HARD_SOFT
; TAWS minimum runway length (feet)
TawsMinLength = 40
; sets master sound volume in percent: 0 to 100.
MasterVolume = 100
; sets trainer process CPU: 1 to 32 (0: last core, -1: automatic).
CpuAffinity = -1
; connects to: 'PFC_STACK','PFC_430','PFC_530' or any '#PID' (#D002 for PFC_430)
; no value connects to first found, 'OFF' disables connection.
HardwareDevice = 
; hardware selector number or -1 to disable.
HardwareIdx = -1
; mute sound when simulator window looses focus if false.
NoAudioFocus = false
; override GPS Unit# (1 or 2) or use 'this unit#' (0) (XPL 10.30+ for GPS2).
AutoGpsSource = 0
; HSI lateral deviation scale factor.
CdiScale = 1
; HSI vertical deviation scale factor.
GsiScale = 1
; updates Simulator GPS flight plan if true.
LinkSimGps = false
; saves the active route to flight plan file if true (.fms)
AutoSavePln = false
; cdi/obs: CDI Key (0: disable)
AFMS.cdi_key = 
; cdi/obs: Selected Course for GPS (0: disable)
AFMS.sel_crs_gps = 
; cdi/obs: Selected Course for VLOC (0: disable)
AFMS.sel_crs_vloc = 
; cdi/obs: V-Flag State (1: declutter)
AFMS.v_flag_declutter = 
; main: GPS Selected (0: prompt)
AFMS.gps_selected = 
; main: COM Presets (1: enable)
AFMS.com_presets = 

[GNS_530_1.WINDOW]
; display window if true.
visible = true 
; show screen only gauge if true.
nobezel = false
; display type: WINDOW,PANEL2D,PANEL3D,PANELS
frame.type = WINDOW
; display position and dimension (left,top,width,height)
frame.rect = 3423,2131,1280,691
; screen only border size (pixels).
border.size = 0
; screen only border color (#RGB or #RGBA).
border.rgba = #000000
; enable mouse clickspots if true, disable if false (use SHIFT to override)
usemouse = true 
; left mouse button on the screen toggles popup window if true.
popleft = false
; right mouse button on the screen toggles popup window if true (requires XP11.1).
popright = false
; display as popout window if true (requires XP11.1).
undocked = true 
; display mouse tooltips if true.
tooltips = false
; freeze display position if true.
locked = false
; VR mode position and dimension (left,top,width,height) (requires XP11.20)
vrmode.rect = 0,357,490,357
; auto hide in external view if true.
autohide = false

[GNS_530_1.PANELS]
; display window if true.
visible = false
; show screen only gauge if true.
nobezel = true
; display type: WINDOW,PANEL2D,PANEL3D,PANELS
frame.type = PANELS
; display position and dimension (left,top,width,height)
frame.rect = 0,0,0,0
; screen only border size (pixels).
border.size = 0
; screen only border color (#RGB or #RGBA).
border.rgba = #000000
; enable mouse clickspots if true, disable if false (use SHIFT to override)
usemouse = true
; left mouse button on the screen toggles popup window if true.
popleft = false
; right mouse button on the screen toggles popup window if true (requires XP11.1).
popright = true

[GNS_530_2]
; comma separated list of render targets.
drawto = WINDOW, PANELS
; is the master device if true.
MasterDevice = true
; connects GPS to copilot side if true.
CopilotSide = true
; selects COM/NAV Radios '1' or '2'.
RadiosPair = 2
; uses computer time if true, simulator time otherwise.
ComputerTime = false
; integral lighting rheostat index (0 to 3) or percent (-100 to 0)
Rheostat.Display = -100
; integral lighting rheostat index (0 to 3) or percent (-100 to 0)
Rheostat.Buttons = -75
; connects GPS to Autopilot if true.
LinkOto = true
; connects GPS to HSI if true.
LinkHsi = true
; connects GPS to HSI course motor if true.
LinkCrs = true
; connects GPS to OBS input if true (LinkHsi/OBS or AutoNavSource/OBS).
LinkObs = true
; connects GPS to VOR if true.
LinkVor = true
; connects CDI key to NAV/GPS switch if true.
AutoNavGps = true
; selects VLOC NAV '1' or '2'. '0' selects same source as 'RadiosPair'.
AutoNavSource = 0
; sets device power source: ALWAYS_ON,AVIONICS_BUS,MAIN_BATTERY
PowerSource = AVIONICS_BUS
; sets device power knob switch mode: NONE,DEFAULT_ON,DEFAULT_OFF
PowerKnob = NONE
; connects GPS to Shadin Air Data computer if true.
UseAirData = true
; connects GPS to Shadin Fuel Data computer if true.
UseFuelData = true
; connects GPS to RYAN 9900BX if true.
UseRyanTcad = true
; sets TCAD sound alerts volume in percent: 0 to 100.
RyanTcadVolume = 50
; sets TCAD maximum number of targets to X-Plane AI Traffic Count.
UseTcadAiCount = true
; connects GPS #1 to GPS #2 if true (both required).
UseCrossFill = false
; enable device failures if true.
UseFailures = false
; uses Simulator GPS commands if true.
UseSimGpsCmds = false
; sets fuel type: AVGAS,JETA,JETB
FuelType = AVGAS
; sets TAWS type: TERR,TAWS
TawsMode = TERR
; sets TAWS surface: HARD,HARD_SOFT,WATER,ANY
TawsSurface = HARD_SOFT
; TAWS minimum runway length (feet)
TawsMinLength = 40
; sets master sound volume in percent: 0 to 100.
MasterVolume = 100
; mute sound when simulator window looses focus if false.
NoAudioFocus = false
; selects the CPU running the trainer process: 1 to 32
; 0: last core, -1: automatic.
CpuAffinity = -1
; connects to: 'PFC_STACK','PFC_430','PFC_530' or any '#PID' (#D002 for PFC_430)
; no value connects to first found, 'OFF' disables connection.
HardwareDevice = 
; hardware selector number or -1 to disable.
HardwareIdx = -1

[GNS_530_2.WINDOW]
; display window if true.
visible = true
; show screen only gauge if true.
nobezel = false
; display type: WINDOW,PANEL2D,PANEL3D,PANELS
frame.type = WINDOW
; display position and dimension (left,top,width,height)
frame.rect = 5564,1261,1112,810
; screen only border size (pixels).
border.size = 0
; screen only border color (#RGB or #RGBA).
border.rgba = #000000
; enable mouse clickspots if true, disable if false (use SHIFT to override)
usemouse = true
; left mouse button on the screen toggles popup window if true.
popleft = false
; right mouse button on the screen toggles popup window if true (requires XP11.1).
popright = false
; display as popout window if true (requires XP11.1).
undocked = false
; display mouse tooltips if true.
tooltips = false
; freeze display position if true.
locked = false

[GNS_530_2.PANELS]
; display window if true.
visible = false
; show screen only gauge if true.
nobezel = true
; display type: WINDOW,PANEL2D,PANEL3D,PANELS
frame.type = PANELS
; display position and dimension (left,top,width,height)
frame.rect = 0,0,0,0
; screen only border size (pixels).
border.size = 0
; screen only border color (#RGB or #RGBA).
border.rgba = #000000
; enable mouse clickspots if true, disable if false (use SHIFT to override)
usemouse = true
; left mouse button on the screen toggles popup window if true.
popleft = false
; right mouse button on the screen toggles popup window if true (requires XP11.1).
popright = true

 

 

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Not sure about your settings, but I have had the same trouble for a long time using the RXP GNS's. One update fixes another breaks. I suspect it's probably an X-Plane issue. I just setup two GNS 430's (newest versions) in my new Carenado B58 XP11 version, all was fine ONCE. Next flight, wouldn't track CDI for any reason, red flag also showed the whole flight, unless I used a NAV localizer. Wound up using the HDG & NAV bugs to do that flight. Was going nuts trying to sort it out, which i have done on numerous occasions. What wound up working, DON'T KNOW WHY, but loaded aircraft (B58) went through the flight plan setup, and the darn HSI red flag was there again, S.O.B. Said what the heck, went into plugin, disabled GNS1, bam there went the flag, for the heck of it, did same for GNS2. Then I thought, let me turn them back on and see what happens, enabled GNS1, bingo, flag still off and associated flight plan was showing proper course for CDI. Turned #2 back on and poof, tracking re-established. A royal PIA for every flight but it does get you back to a working GPS, at least for me anyway. Good luck guy, sorry don't use the RXP's in the AFL 172.

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Hi,

We've been conducting a number of additional flight tests with some of the forum members over the last 10 days and we've further corrected this issue (awaiting final test flight reports). There is an issue when loading XP11 (and most likely XP10/9) with a cold and dark aircraft: XP11 resets our workarounds as soon as power is on. We have a fix for this and as soon as we get the latest reports we'll publish it!

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20 hours ago, RXP said:

Hi,

We've been conducting a number of additional flight tests with some of the forum members over the last 10 days and we've further corrected this issue (awaiting final test flight reports). There is an issue when loading XP11 (and most likely XP10/9) with a cold and dark aircraft: XP11 resets our workarounds as soon as power is on. We have a fix for this and as soon as we get the latest reports we'll publish it!

Excellent news RXP, until then, i'll just continue a GNS reboot.. 😉

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On 4/2/2019 at 5:17 PM, Pivot said:

Excellent news RXP, until then, i'll just continue a GNS reboot.. 😉

Have you had any success with this problem? I'm having very similar problems with the XP11 Carenado T210M with RXP G530/G430 and the Carenado B58 XP10 & XP11 versions with twin RXP G430. Version 2.4.10 has not been successful. I guess the only alternative is to use stock GPS or HDG mode. 

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Hi,

we've just released v2.4.11 update which might be better at solving this.

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Just to provide feedback, we are back in the friendly skies again, nice work RXP...

Pivot

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@Pivot thank you for your feedback!

Please note there is a last 'edge case' we've lately identified with the Just Flight Arrow III starting C&D. We didn't catch this one for the v2.4.11 release because we were using the Arrow III v1.3. With the latest Arrow III v1.6 it breaks the autopilot and I've been exchanging information with their developers to better track down what did they change in their code and how this could affect the GTN/GNS V2. Without much details this is rooted in X-Plane and the plugins interactions with it, and we've already have a working fix in our labs which is under test.

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No worries here RXP, my Baron is smiling ear to ear. You all keep up the good work your equipment is as close to reality as it gets.

Pivot

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