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Quality Throttle Quadrant for 2/4 engine jets wanted

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Ray, the Honeycomb was featured at Cosford 2018. Did you miss seeing it in action?

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1 hour ago, FreeBird(Josh) said:

Here is a picture of the setup for engine 1  with spadnext.   FSUIPC is similar. Also there is no calibration necessary just set the perimeters and go.

Josh, I’m not familiar with Xplane but do know FSUIPC. It will need calibrating but that won’t be a problem. FSUIPC does allow one axis to control two engines so two levers could control Concorde. Either that or use the two prop axes.

Jim, sounds similar to the mounting options for the Saitek. Thanks. I’ll have 5i research USB button units but keyboard commands will do short term.

Rick, the yoke was there but not setup and not demonstrated. Aerosoft had zero interest in it. Never saw the throttle quadrant but I don’t consider it a major improvement over Saitek. Built to a price and pots, not hall-effect. No ta!


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I've had the TQ6 for just over 2 years now.  Its solidly built, and no plastic rubbish. Unfortunately, my model doesn't have hall effect sensors, but I have not had any problems with the pots. As I don't fly 4 engine aircraft, I haven't had your problem. If I wanted to, I could easily make aluminum extensions for the prop levers.  I have replaced the throttle lever knobs with larger white ones as fitted to the NGX, but they are detachable, if required. The only flaw I found with mine, was that the mixture levers did not match up at the full rich position, with about a 5mm differential. I did mention it to the Virtual Fly guys, who said that they would fix it. As usual, the tyranny of distance didn't make that a viable proposition, owing to the cost of postage.

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Hi Ray,

Have you checked out the PFC throttles?

Only issue with them (if you can call it that) is that they have separate throttles for different aircraft types which makes it a bit expensive. However the base console comes with a realistic (light aircraft) gear lever & flap lever. Additionally it has rudder trim & TOGA button which you can order with the individual quadrants which overrides the console button.

Iv'e had mine for a couple of years now & although they do not have Hall effect sensors they are far more accurate than the Saitek's I have had over the years.


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8 hours ago, Freo said:

I've had the TQ6 for just over 2 years now.  Its solidly built, and no plastic rubbish. Unfortunately, my model doesn't have hall effect sensors, but I have not had any problems with the pots. As I don't fly 4 engine aircraft, I haven't had your problem. If I wanted to, I could easily make aluminum extensions for the prop levers.  I have replaced the throttle lever knobs with larger white ones as fitted to the NGX, but they are detachable, if required. The only flaw I found with mine, was that the mixture levers did not match up at the full rich position, with about a 5mm differential. I did mention it to the Virtual Fly guys, who said that they would fix it. As usual, the tyranny of distance didn't make that a viable proposition, owing to the cost of postage.

Cheers

The problem for me is I don't fly twin-engine turbo-props that the TQ6 is designed for. I don't have your skills in modifying them unfortunately.

5 hours ago, Rossco said:

Hi Ray,

Have you checked out the PFC throttles?

Only issue with them (if you can call it that) is that they have separate throttles for different aircraft types which makes it a bit expensive. However the base console comes with a realistic (light aircraft) gear lever & flap lever. Additionally it has rudder trim & TOGA button which you can order with the individual quadrants which overrides the console button.

Iv'e had mine for a couple of years now & although they do not have Hall effect sensors they are far more accurate than the Saitek's I have had over the years.

I've seen too many posts from people who have had problems with PFC and given their extortionate cost and questionable customer support I'm loath to consider them. They still do not use hall-effect sensors which for the cost I find very surprising. You also have to buy a base throttle unit and then add a suitable quadrant. Adaptable certainly but too expensive for what is on offer.

I'm having second thoughts about having to compromise so much when spending so much. I really shouldn't have to. I fail to understand why VirtualFly do not make a Boeing / Airbus style quadrant. The basic design only needs tweaking to place all six levers equi-distant apart and keep all knobs the same colour.

I'm going to write to them and see if they have any plans to make such a unit. For now, any purchase is on hold.


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I use a QUATTRO from fsxthrottle.com. Overall I am happy with my purchase. I enjoy being able to go from a 2 engine aircraft to a 4 engine easily. I will say I do wish it was a little smoother, but the price was right and it works well.


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23 minutes ago, 19dcavscout said:

I use a QUATTRO from fsxthrottle.com. Overall I am happy with my purchase. I enjoy being able to go from a 2 engine aircraft to a 4 engine easily. I will say I do wish it was a little smoother, but the price was right and it works well.

Thanks for that Nick. I checked their website but am put off with them using pots. The list of options seems endless. Extra for painting? Construction seems mainly plastic which keeps the cost down I suppose.

Its quite dispiriting how few decent quality throttle quadrants there are for us jet pilots. :sad:

Yokes and rudder pedals are pretty generic. Throttle quadrants are more specialised but if VirtualFly just tweaked their TQ6+ to have all levers equidistant it would be the perfect solution. I have written to them asking if anything like that is in the pipeline. Fingers crossed.


Ray (Cheshire, England).
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Over €600 for these items of hardware? Yikes!!

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13 minutes ago, vc10man said:

Over €600 for these items of hardware? Yikes!!

Think about it Rick. We paid more for our 1080Ti cards and which do you think will last longer? Long term investment!


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2 hours ago, Ray Proudfoot said:

Thanks for that Nick. I checked their website but am put off with them using pots. The list of options seems endless. Extra for painting? Construction seems mainly plastic which keeps the cost down I suppose.

Its quite dispiriting how few decent quality throttle quadrants there are for us jet pilots. :sad:

Yokes and rudder pedals are pretty generic. Throttle quadrants are more specialised but if VirtualFly just tweaked their TQ6+ to have all levers equidistant it would be the perfect solution. I have written to them asking if anything like that is in the pipeline. Fingers crossed.

The product is actually made of wood mostly. I understand the pot issue. It is not perfect, but it is not too bad. The gears to move the throttles are what appear to be an MDF. I have thought about trying to 3D print some new ones to get it smoother, but there seems to be a never ending amount of things I need to buy.
 

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41 minutes ago, Ray Proudfoot said:

Think about it Rick. We paid more for our 1080Ti cards and which do you think will last longer? Long term investment!

Good point, Ray. Never gave it a thought. Saw some screens, at Richer Sounds, nearly all geared towards the tv market, and was mulling with the idea of maybe going for one of those 28-in-32-in monitors(not tv monitors,and most certainly not from Richer Sounds!) to make full use of the 1080Ti. Will be picking your brain in the near future, Ray, if you do not mind.🤣.

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https://throttletek.com/products/

I have had the B737v1 throttle for 3 years now. All though the flaps mechanisme snabbed, its quite overall good quality. 

They made some other interesting throttle variants i see.

Michael Moe

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6 minutes ago, Michael Moe said:

https://throttletek.com/products/

I have had the B737v1 throttle for 3 years now. All though the flaps mechanisme snabbed, its quite overall good quality. 

They made some other interesting throttle variants i see.

Michael Moe

I remember writing to them asking for more info on one of their throttles and never heard back. Not encouraging. I assume your flap lever was made of plastic if it snapped. That’s disappointing.

35 minutes ago, vc10man said:

Good point, Ray. Never gave it a thought. Saw some screens, at Richer Sounds, nearly all geared towards the tv market, and was mulling with the idea of maybe going for one of those 28-in-32-in monitors(not tv monitors,and most certainly not from Richer Sounds!) to make full use of the 1080Ti. Will be picking your brain in the near future, Ray, if you do not mind.🤣.

Happy to help Rick.


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1 hour ago, Ray Proudfoot said:

Happy to help Rick

Thanks, Ray.

What's your opinion on this from Scan?

31.5" iiyama ProLite XB3270QS-B1 WQHD Monitor, IPS, 2560x1440, 75Hz, 4ms, 80M:1, 300cd/m², VESA, DP/HDMI/DVI 

at £253

Or this?

32" BenQ PD3200Q Designer VA Monitor, sRGB 2560x1440 (WQHD), 16:9, 60Hz, 4ms, 1000:1, SD Card Reader, HDMI/DP/mDP/DVI-DL

at £395.50 but £142.50 dearer.

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1 hour ago, Ray Proudfoot said:

I remember writing to them asking for more info on one of their throttles and never heard back. Not encouraging. I assume your flap lever was made of plastic if it snapped. That’s disappointing.

 

Yeah you are right there , some springs with a transparancy mechanism that i never got to fix again.

Still use it though as the levers, parkingbrake and reversers is still nice.

Thanks

Michael Moe


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