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Get well soon John, will be interested hearing about your recovery. Quite possibly you have had more good luck than bad so far regarding this incident. I hope it continues. 

30 years motorcycling has instilled in me the instinct that anything with 4 wheels on it is potentially my executioner. Especially at lights. People who slam the gas pedal down when they see amber are potential murderers. 


Russell Gough

Daytona Beach/London

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35 minutes ago, sloppysmusic said:

30 years motorcycling has instilled in me the instinct that anything with 4 wheels on it is potentially my executioner. Especially at lights. People who slam the gas pedal down when they see amber are potential murderers. 

Yeah, that's pretty much how it is, and that's considering I drive something with 18 rather than 4.


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Buy a lottery ticket quick !  Good luck to come out that well,  get well soon.

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God's with you John. I know all of us here are thinking of you and I wish you a really speedy recovery. You must be one tough dude...........😊


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5 hours ago, pedrotrindade said:

Glad you're ok, a speedy recovery, John.

I am hanging in there but the pain medicine has kept me well asleep and oblivious to all those things we cannot discuss, like politics, religion, sex, etc....  But when I hear an interesting jet fly out of nearby Sky Harbor, I am at full attention, my ex wife would always complain that when I looked at Barnstormers .com, I was looking at pilot porn, lol....

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Looks like you have the right attitude John which, in most cases is of primary importance to recovery.

Hang in there,

 

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7 hours ago, vgbaron said:

Looks like you have the right attitude John which, in most cases is of primary importance to recovery.

Hang in there,

 

Vic

My attitude is OK but the past 24 hours has been tough, only my ex wife's emails have been enough to get me out of bed.  I have not simmed, and when I do not sim I get depressed as it aside from travel is my most passionate hobby.  My deceased father came to me in my dreams last night and helped me thru my pain, I for one believe an afterlife exists, he was with me until I was able to overcome my pain long enough to get a less strong pain medicine I prefer to take--food and water being a good example, plus chocolate.  As they say in Harry Potter the place my friends across the pond tried to show me when I was in London in 2017, chocolate keeps the dementors away, lol.  My one fault in the car accident is I wanted to go to my apartment over Phoenix's Diagon Alley and the thought "Diagonally" popped into my head like the movie and SLAM I was underneath and SUV then bouncing and rolling diagonally across the road.  However as a man, I was really only worried about one thing at the time--castration, either from paralysis or something else, lol.  So at least I did not experience that but at my age why worry anyway, no woman wants a man glued to a simulator! 

How have I been fighting this pain?  By posting a bit less, and telling myself jokes and writing jokes and innuendo that only I probably understand, I poke fun at myself in other words.  I learned about that at age eleven, the other great trauma in my life, my appendectomy in 1972 when the brothers who I absolutely hated until that time became demi-Gods by making me laugh my pain from my surgery away.  And I will swear on the Holy Bible or anyone else's holy book out of respect for all faiths that their most loved ones will be there for them after they have passed, when they have to endure the pain of death, which there is no other way to describe my accident.  I literally had one of those out of body experiences that tells me that all my life's misjudgements are forgiven.  For me on a personal note, that is what sin is, judging others.  I have to watch that movie Solaris again, to me it answers so many of life's questions including those of travel beyond this earth, which is what we see as the living when we see someone pass away.  That is the only way I can express religion, by saying writing our thoughts is our religion and needs to be cultivated in places like here.

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John, 

Touched by your intimate story. I really can sympathize having been damaged myself by the vilest tragedies in my life, with recurring nightmares and a common release in my joy of simming that takes me far away from all the pain for hours on end. Will msg you tomorrow if you like I don't want to be diverting this thread from your hour of need. 

The truth will free you brother simmer, I believe you will find much sympathy and help here. 

Rest well 

Russ

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Russell Gough

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30 minutes ago, sloppysmusic said:

John, 

Touched by your intimate story. I really can sympathize having been damaged myself by the vilest tragedies in my life, with recurring nightmares and a common release in my joy of simming that takes me far away from all the pain for hours on end. Will msg you tomorrow if you like I don't want to be diverting this thread from your hour of need. 

The truth will free you brother simmer, I believe you will find much sympathy and help here. 

Rest well 

Russ

I appreciate this.  I am a flaming heterosexual I have to admit but I have always felt I have had to love men to learn to accept heaven.  It was a group of men who first came to my aid in that intersection a few nights ago, holding my hands with their warmth, hugging my shoulders, lifting me up like angels into the one thousand dollar ambulance ride written down to 90 dollars by Medicare, lol, then taking me to those beautiful women doctors and male doctors and women nurses and male nurses that if not by drugs, healed me with their crying. 

I heard the women nurses crying by my bedside but to this hour do not know why they got so attached to me, I said some bad things in my pain that I regret but they kept telling me--say them, let it out now, then you won't let it out later.  And that is exactly what happens.  I still hurt, but my pain is a wound of understanding and I would rather have that hurt so I can understand other's when they hurt. 

I am not a doctor but if I can help heal by my writing, so be it.  I may feel the other way around when I run out of pain meds but I have been able to drag them out with the help of plain old over the counter meds beyond their prescription length.  They do not renew opiates now, and gladly so, I learned from my hero pilot, Eddie Rickenbacker, what opiates are good for and what they are not.  They are to get you over your peak pain, but do not let them drag you out of life too soon. 

I am not a politician and I know our poor President has his challenges, but every President I have known in my lifetime has brought some new advice or perspectives on life which I appreciate, and ours has found allies across party lines in his efforts to curb opiate addiction in our society.  There are better pain drugs, like ketamine, that remove you from pain but do not kill you in an emergency that first responders are now using in car and air crashes, I was given something like that during my accident that gave me accident awareness, which is so important to get your system out of the shock that the accident has caused. 

Our bodies have natural pain killers, endorphins, and because I was not using opiates mine worked like champs and immediately after I was run over, otherwise the intensity of the pain, and it was so intense, would have stopped my heart.  The endorphins got their first.

At 57 I was physically fit and just thanked a pilot friend, the first man who took me up in a Cessna, for teaching me to be a jock and use endorphins for pain relief if I needed them, and OTC meds vs. prescription drugs.  That is the only way we can keep our longevity in the air, as I learned from John Glenn and that man who broke the speed of sound, Chuck Yeager, connections to WWII--the past to the future we live in today, with John the God of all of us dreamers...  JG  -- John God, lol  I loved Chuck Yeager's name in his search to break those barriers, it kind of rhymes with cya later, which means in a gentle terminator's way "I'll Be Back"

In case you wonder how I write, I post using what I was taught as a poet in high school and college creative writing--"Stream of Consciousness"  It releases me from the lock peculiar lock that English Grammar puts on readers by throwing away rules of acceptance we force on our readers, and just given them what they wish which is words to pick and choose from.  As a parent I learned that that is what our children want from us, thoughts to pick and choose from, our children naturally understand we have seen things before and naturally know they can grow with us, that is the way I have always felt about our world and the generations that enter it....

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On 3/5/2019 at 9:42 AM, sloppysmusic said:

Get well soon John, will be interested hearing about your recovery. Quite possibly you have had more good luck than bad so far regarding this incident. I hope it continues. 

30 years motorcycling has instilled in me the instinct that anything with 4 wheels on it is potentially my executioner. Especially at lights. People who slam the gas pedal down when they see amber are potential murderers. 

And I have thought about at least getting a freeway legal scooter, if only because odd as they are, and unmanly as they may seem, lol, drivers tend to stare at them and they offer a tad more protection in a crash. 

It is funny, I was a marathon cyclist for many years and intend to buy an eight speed bicycle with internal gears or at least a flatlander one speed fixie.  I road in the street with cars whizzing by even here in busy Phoenix and was never hit, cars gave me wide berth even if some dudes honked their manliness and called me nerdish names.  I could ride 100 mile plus rides climbing over 4000 vertical feet when I lived in the Napa Valley in less than five hours in the 80's, just shy of being competitive though but health wise it was great, I had a resting heart rate of 60 and slept like a baby every night I rode them well after college, until I could afford my first car. 

I guess you could say I was the soul of one of the Wright brothers, hence my interest in low and slow ultralights and my disdain of military use of aircraft, which I understand the Wrights later regretted.  My fav olde bird was Santos Dumonts aircraft although if the Xplane aircraft is a good representation, it was a slouch performance wise compared to what the Wrights later showed for France, that is our history and I believe it. 

The Wright engines that followed were so good, but so were many engines that evolved after WWI, especially Lindburgh's trust in a single engine, Ryan Monoplane aircraft powered by its very reliable engine which went on well after the oceanic crossing to achieve many other flights in the Americas before he retired his beloved aircraft.  I have yet to find a good one again for P3DV4 or Xplane11, tried one in P3DV4 but it crashed the sim.

I still imagine, whether true or not, Lindburgh flying near fishing boats near the Irish coast and saying "Which way is Ireland"  Flash forward to my flight 90 years later recently on British airways, and our flight map on our entertainment system showed me landfall as it happened, over Northern Ireland, on my way into London, in the early dawn.

In the eight times I have flown eastward across the Atlantic since the 50th anniversary of Lindburgh's flight, I have thought about him, those who did not make it, and the early ones who crashed in a bog after a shorter hop, all alone in the moonlight.  Add to that the ferry pilots, and the dirigible pilots going the other way from Germany and of course the low and slow ocean liners, and sailboats like the solo Tinkerbell Robert Manry of the Cleveland Plain dealer sailed....  And thinking of those who survived and were lost in shipwrecks, like the Titanic, all told more than have ever been lost in air disasters....

John

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John, 

If you were not a writer at some point I would find it hard to believe you. I think you have a way with words, admittedly spiced up by current pain meds (!), that could spin many a yarn or short story. Definitely a good read, despite the unfortunate reasons for the prose forthcoming. 


Russell Gough

Daytona Beach/London

FL/UK

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On 3/8/2019 at 5:03 PM, sloppysmusic said:

John, 

If you were not a writer at some point I would find it hard to believe you. I think you have a way with words, admittedly spiced up by current pain meds (!), that could spin many a yarn or short story. Definitely a good read, despite the unfortunate reasons for the prose forthcoming. 

I wrote mostly poetry in high school and college but then had to become a professional writer in order to prepare supporting documentations for my employees, for those I trained out in the field, and for software design when I left field training.  I do not care for a professional approach to forum writing, i.e. the dry, limited confines that rules of grammar enforce on me when I had to write professionally.  

I have probably written more than four or five thousand pages that went into professional documents I wrote for the retail and hotel and insurance software industry.  Even though insurance was a bit more than ten percent of my career, the documentation I had to write exceeded that amount by some because we had to design our code differently to comply with state law, allowed coverage, allowed claims and salvage costs, and so on.  I believe my old company even got into air-frame coverage, I know they were involving themselves in boat coverage when I left them. 

Yet I preferred writing for the hospitality industry the most, and for the software testing industry second establishing my take, which everyone with a dev, training and QA background has, on how software should be developed. 

That brings me back to our aircraft add on developers in our hobby and 3d scenery developers, who create amazing products on budgets much lower than the big boys I worked for and they probably work for in addition to their contributions to our hobby. 

Think of an Xplane or MSFS/P3D aircraft, it must have a knockout 3d model (CAD programming is way beyond me, my meager trike here in the library taxed me much), it must have killer gauges, crystal clear, and knockout systems the higher up the echelon it goes in aircraft speed, airframe and performance, and it must have a spot on flight model within the limits of the sim it runs on (I find Xplane11 flight models starting to exceed anything I've known before outside of RealAir for MSFS/P3D, given their ability to get airborne from zero to in one instance a top speed over 25 mach, a freeware aircraft akin to the unseen Aurora). 

Other than the mother of my daughter, these devs in our hobby walk on water better than most I have met in my professional life, because they contribute to something that is not a get rich quick venue for anyone, except hopefully the makers of these core sims that they keep updating almost beyond perfection, certainly in performance.

John

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Well, a week later I am able to walk at about 3/4ths of my former speed and I am amazed by that as are my medical providers, they did not expect me to walk that well and in a sense I do not, I do it at a cost of ankle pain due to the circulation issues the accident has caused me in my legs.  Sadly the accident has exploited my diabetes which irks me because I am now underweight rather than overweight, seriously lightweight for a man at my age.  But that saved my life, because fluid build up from the accident in my legs would have stopped my heart.

I do believe in no pain, no gain and I walk thru the pain, following the advice I gave my Mom but when she aged she stopped heeding it, and although she had cancer it was congestive heart failure that ended her life a year earlier than her cancer prognosis, even after stopping chemo, gave her.

My advice to the older among us, or accident victims who still have limb movement, is to keep moving, face the pain.  And I feel in a position to give that advice, my overall pain is still the same as when I was hit, about 9 to 11 out of ten, sans Opiates now, I used them and I weaned myself from them on my first prescription following my ex's advice and my daughter's advice, and even Donald Trump's advice, one agenda of his I am really on board with, a non political life saving crusade. 

Every President or World Leader worth their salt, even if not popular, must take on a personal pet peeve to at least achieve a mark for our world in their lives.  I even agree with President Putin in his efforts to take over from the west in stabilizing the Middle East.  Anyone's assistance there, even those of the Muslim faith or any creed, is invaluable into giving our next generation a fighting chance of a beautiful land with beautiful religious and cultural architecture and an ancient message of civilization and attempts at urban peace. 

When you are hurt even if it is an accident you have time to think about world peace not as a cliche, but as what we in aviation, for even sole simmers are in aviation, represent--the aircraft as a vessel to bring people all over the world.  Commercial air travel has made more and more lower income souls able to see the world, get out of the box their homeland puts them in sometimes culturally.  I saw this traveling to Europe way back in '77 when for $1000 including air fare and first class hotels, our high school groups from all over the US met on an Alpine tour.  As much was crammed in that one week blitz of Europe as some of my longer trips, and a DC-10, DC8-63, 707 and 727 made it all possible!

Thanks for letting me ramble, I hurt much less after my mile walk an hour ago just by writing again.  Now that I have an angle, my car accident, I hope to write a chicken soup like book with some of my poetry over the years and regular creative prose to inspire, protect and admire my readers.

The little JC still thanking the big One for my tale of survival at minimal cost!....

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Glad you are getting more active even if the pain is still bad for you. Despite their ability to make life seem worth while after a bad injury they often. end up causing more damage in the long run. When I immigrated to this country before I got settled I had the joy of 2 wisdom teeth emerging at the same time. With no insurance I was told to go to the 'poor clinic' where I was grateful to be treated for what I could afford (with a wife dying of cancer it wasn't much). The dentist prescribed me hydrococodone and after 2 days I went back and said it wasn't easing the pain so he upped the dose. I had no idea what it was but it worked. A week later I was taking my wife out and realizing I want ready to leave until I 'dosed up'. So I quit taking them. Fast forward 5 years back pain came along and I asked my doctor for the same stuff as before as the pain was making life unbearable. I was told very firmly "we do NOT give out NARCOTICS here! ' Feeling like a criminal as that word I associated with TV crime shows Id watched growing up I went away finally realizing why people would do almost anything, criminal or not, to get hold of it. I since discovered ibuprofen in the right dosage could dull lost pain so yes I agree you shouldn't use it unless you need a genuine post injury short term pain solution.

Good luck to you in your recovery. 


Russell Gough

Daytona Beach/London

FL/UK

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