Second hand £300 GTX1080 or new RTX2070 £450

[Ron Attwood 3,464]

59 minutes ago, ols500 said:

How much more FPS will I see with an i7 9700K?

How many do you have now?

[ols500 43]

On a heavy load at EGLL, 14-18fps tops. 

[Benjamin J 751]

4 hours ago, ols500 said:

How much more FPS will I see with an i7 9700K?

Well, I already ordered mine and it's supposed to arrive tomorrow. Depending when it arrives I might put it in tomorrow. i agree, it seems very scary... Let' see. Once I put it in and everything works I'll come back and let you know how big of an improvement it actually was.

[Benjamin J 751]

7 hours ago, ols500 said:

Hi, I apologise I am replying late-Was having a fantastic gliding day 😄. 

I am using a Be Quiet! Pure rock CPU cooler-BK009. My CPU is at 4.5Ghz with temps never really going above 70c...

So I might have to replace the cooler if I want higher FPS

So does this mean it is better to have a more powerful CPU than a GPU?

If I did upgrade I will have to check the space, this is a large cooler. I have an Aerocool AERO 800 windowed gaming case, but I can check with the guys who built it at aria pc to see if this will fit.

The i5 8600K doesn't do hyperthreading. Is it better to have it or not?

So in conclusion, it would be better to upgrade my CPU (might need a better cooler), but eventually, I will start hitting the 6GB VRAM on the GTX 1060. So to make the build stable I wil need to upgrade both CPU and GPU. If I get the i7 9700K, would I have to change motherboards? I have Z370-P. Then I would upgrade my GPU to an RTX 2070 or to save money a non-crypto mined GTX 1080.

Well, to be a nitpick, your 'build' will be stable regardless of your hardware. Rather if you want to avoid bottle necks you will want to have balanced hardware. That said, your priority with P3D is CPU and your testing appears to back this up.

The 6GB VRAM on your 1060 may end up being a little tight, but this entirely depends on settings such as the max distance at which textures should be loaded or retained. You cna set this lower in order to free up VRAM. But, this means you will more often get 'blacking out' of objects once you rotate your view. But, to be hones,t my 8GB 1070 only goes over 6GB in areas such as NYC, where I have tons of custom scenery (DD's NYC city and airports). Another areas where VRMA is used  alot is photorealistic sceneries. If you aren't suing such sceneries too much, you cna probably get away with 6GB VRAM just fine.

You're correct that the Noctua is pretty big. I made sure to get a case that fits it.

I think any Z370 should work fine with the 9700k if your flashed the BIOS to a version that supports it! Check that first...

[ols500 43]

Ok, please report back on the difference in FPS, will be very helpful considering you have a similar build. However, you are running an SSD, which I am not. How much would an SSD benefit me? My load times are 60 seconds maximum anyway. 

[Ron Attwood 3,464]

I reckon you'll get 2 more.. Not a bad investment.

[ols500 43]

Oh 😞 

[Benjamin J 751]

On 4/21/2019 at 6:16 AM, ols500 said:

Ok, please report back on the difference in FPS, will be very helpful considering you have a similar build. However, you are running an SSD, which I am not. How much would an SSD benefit me? My load times are 60 seconds maximum anyway. 

So I put in the 9700k... But am rather unhappy with it. The FPS have overall stayed the same, and there's a new issue at OrbX TE NL. I've been suggested wiping Windows and reinstalling everything anew from the bottom up, which I do not have the time or patience for.

I'm still convinced that the CPU change should give me a bigger benefit than a new GPU, but if this is really the time investment required, I'm not sure it's worth it for me...

[ols500 43]

😞 Feel bad for you Benjamin. Someone else on avsim recommended 4K monitor will help at 30Hz. I'm gonna get a professional to delid my i5 8600K and I'll overlock to 5Ghz or higher then install a Kraken 62 280mm water cooler and then swap my BenQ BW2270 for a 32" 4K monitor and run it at 30Hz. 

[vortex681 806]

3 hours ago, ols500 said:

... and then swap my BenQ BW2270 for a 32" 4K monitor and run it at 30Hz.

I think 4k would be a bit of a stretch for your GTX 1060, even running at 30Hz.

[ols500 43]

More conflictions...

Please read this:

Why can't I get an answer 😞 Some people say I can run 4K others say I can't...

[pgde 571]

On 4/22/2019 at 12:09 PM, ols500 said:

More conflictions...

Why can't I get an answer 😞 Some people say I can run 4K others say I can't...

It probably depends on your desired settings in P3D as well as your monitor size. I wonder if those who say that card can run 4k have a large monitor. I used to have a 1070 running 1080P on a 43" LED TV. Other than DL, no performance issues. However, when I got my new 43" 4k TV and changed the resolution to 4k, the card was simply overwhelmed (at the same P3D settings as in 1080P). I could have made the 1070 run better in 4k but the tradeoffs were too much for me, so I bought a used 1080Ti. This card runs P3D well in 4k at my detailed settings. I wonder what AMD will be rolling out in the near future both on the GPU and CPU sides. Anyway, here is some reading on this subject -- https://www.quora.com/Does-the-GTX-1060-6GB-support-4k-gaming

Regards,

P.