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On 5/27/2019 at 7:00 PM, B777ER said:

I'm going to to have to grab that one. Your latest one for May has way too much blue in it. For June, can you consider reducing the blue tint when lloking out on the horizon and adding in some brown? Would seem more summer like. 

June coming within a couple of days and can be used with EF too :

This is the same day ( 21 june ) with the same sky/clouds.

Above the clouds ( the higher you fly, the more blue the sky is )

Saldo_4_4%20v16%20June%201.jpg

Below the clouds

Saldo_4_4%20v16%20June%202.jpg

Different weather theme 

Saldo_4_4%20v16%20June%203.jpg

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Very nice Pictures.

Pleas tell me what PTA Preset do you use ( download links from you preset )

and how can i install the preset when i use EF.

At this time i use the original P3D 4.5 Hotfix1  Shaders.

 

Thanks

Frank from EDDM

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51 minutes ago, GSalden said:

 

Saldo_4_4%20v16%20June%201.jpg

Below the clouds

Saldo_4_4%20v16%20June%202.jpg

Different weather theme 

Saldo_4_4%20v16%20June%203.jpg

Can you achieve those result using Tomato Shade or is it only with PTA ?

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1 hour ago, mr340 said:

Can you achieve those result using Tomato Shade or is it only with PTA ?

You could achieve the same result, but you have to copy values from PTA to TS.

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1 hour ago, f.skywalker said:

@GSalden

Very nice Pictures.

Pleas tell me what PTA Preset do you use ( download links from you preset )

and how can i install the preset when i use EF.

At this time i use the original P3D 4.5 Hotfix1  Shaders.

 

Thanks

Frank from EDDM

This is V4.5  Hotfix. This is the new 4.5 v16 June preset.

It will be released tomorrow .

 

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8 hours ago, broncoblair said:

So I bought last night. Its crashing P3D whenever i load a flight. Newest version of P3D. 

so  why  your  posting  it  in here  for  and  not  in the  rex forum?

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1 hour ago, GSalden said:

This is V4.5  Hotfix. This is the new 4.5 v16 June preset.

It will be released tomorrow .

 

Thanks,

must i  (install) the PTA preset when running NF or install before running NF.

 

Frank

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3 hours ago, GSalden said:

June coming within a couple of days and can be used with EF too :

This is the same day ( 21 june ) with the same sky/clouds.

Above the clouds ( the higher you fly, the more blue the sky is )

 

Below the clouds

 

Different weather theme 

 

Gentlemen this topic is about EF we have a PTA subforum 😉

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42 minutes ago, awf said:

Gentlemen this topic is about EF we have a PTA subforum 😉

This is about a PTA preset that can be fine tuned to each personal taste with EF , as everyone uses different sky/cloudsets and has calibrated the displays differently...

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Looks awesome Gerard!

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is it possible to only activate the reflections in tomatoshade and just elt EV do all the rest of shading..? and if so what?

 

Would I also achieve nice results? 🙂

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On 5/27/2019 at 4:57 PM, Nyxx said:

No TS NO PTA.

But an update.

Today I turned ON within SF & EF HDR clouds etc, Turned ON P3D HDR so to let HDR work in EF. Today I did not change any setting in EF mini UI, I did nothing.

I lost my dark green lights in the FSL for the FD and LS but it did make a huge difference using HDR and EF using all its HDR in AUTO.

 

 

 

 

I personally prefer indeed the ASP4 + SF + EF combo with P3Dv4.5HF1 HDR and since my hardware upgrade (I9-9900KF / 32gb /  and 2080 and several M2 drives) I can use far more shadow settings.

This alone transformed the sim into a different experience in it's own, to have far more objects receive and cast shadow stuff in combination with EF is an amazing experience here local. 

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5 minutes ago, Victoroos said:

is it possible to only activate the reflections in tomatoshade and just elt EV do all the rest of shading..? and if so what?

 

Would I also achieve nice results? 🙂

I've got a profile for you that was shared which does that... sent me a PM

At this point I don't use TS or PTA shaders...

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5 hours ago, GSalden said:

June coming within a couple of days and can be used with EF too :

This is the same day ( 21 june ) with the same sky/clouds.

Above the clouds ( the higher you fly, the more blue the sky is )

Saldo_4_4%20v16%20June%201.jpg

Below the clouds

Saldo_4_4%20v16%20June%202.jpg

Different weather theme 

Saldo_4_4%20v16%20June%203.jpg

Excellent work once again!

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6 hours ago, GSalden said:

June coming within a couple of days and can be used with EF too :

This is the same day ( 21 june ) with the same sky/clouds.

Above the clouds ( the higher you fly, the more blue the sky is )

Saldo_4_4%20v16%20June%201.jpg

Below the clouds

Saldo_4_4%20v16%20June%202.jpg

Different weather theme 

Saldo_4_4%20v16%20June%203.jpg

That looks awesopme as always Gerald !

Can you do me a favor and post your EF settings or the preset you are using within EF ?

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1 hour ago, RTK1972 said:

That looks awesopme as always Gerald !

Can you do me a favor and post your EF settings or the preset you are using within EF ?

Like I wrote : the preset will be released tomorrow.

Make sure you first have installed the default Shaders. Then install EF. 

Load the preset with PTA and close PTA. Run EF and use manual mode , so not Automated, as there are expressions in the PTA preset ( already making dynamic changes ). 

Use the EF sliders for finetuning to your liking, as one may like more saturated colors and someone else likes less bright colors etc.

Keep in mind that sky colors have a big influence on the overall look. So someone with Skyforce might finetune different from someone using ASCA or freeware skies.

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5 hours ago, GSalden said:

Like I wrote : the preset will be released tomorrow.

Make sure you first have installed the default Shaders. Then install EF. 

Load the preset with PTA and close PTA. Run EF and use manual mode , so not Automated, as there are expressions in the PTA preset ( already making dynamic changes ). 

Use the EF sliders for finetuning to your liking, as one may like more saturated colors and someone else likes less bright colors etc.

Keep in mind that sky colors have a big influence on the overall look. So someone with Skyforce might finetune different from someone using ASCA or freeware skies.

Sorry for my ignorance. But if I have EF in manual mode and shaders run under PTA, which is the aim of EF?

I suppose that one of the aims of EF is morphing clouds in real time automatically. Will PTA or TS work in EF automatic mode?

In fact, I don`t understand really well EF and I have always used PTA or TS and I love them. I don`t like at all EF automatic haze and rayleigh (I think they are too soft). But in the other side I love everything EF does with clouds. So my questin is: Is there any way to get PTA or TS working "normal" and everything related with sky colors and clouds working automatically with EF?

Thank you so much in advance.

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I don't think Gerard owns EF.

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I'm going with ASP4 + Gerard PTA preset + Envtex Skies via ASCA + SF for cloud textures and structure/models.

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9 hours ago, Nyxx said:

I don't think Gerard owns EF.

That is correct.

I have a WidevieW setup ( multiple view pc’s ) and only FSGRW is able to sync clouds over the network.  

The weather program sends sync’d weather data to all networked view pc’s so it all looks the same..

Hopfully the main weather programs once will be able to do that too..

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On 5/28/2019 at 7:22 PM, Michael Moe said:

Nice David. I use HDR OFF. I find it better. How is your performance? 

Could you mail /PM me your daytime settings. Would love to try something. 

Just P3D. Using Auto in EF 

Thanks Michael Moe 

Am at work but here are my Day time setting.

This is for FSL DAY ONLY

Display

FFAA=OFF

AA=8xSSAA

Texture Filtering 16x

Texture Res 4096

FPS locked at 26 (FFTF =0.10)

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World

Terrain from top to bottom

high

Med

5m

30cm

I use "TICK "use high res terrain textures

Scenery Complexity

Top to bottom

Normal

Med

Normal

Normal

I use Orbx HD trees so Dynamic 3D Autogen Veg OFF

Water

Med

All Reflections OFF

Special Effects

Both Med

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Lighting

HDR

Brightness 1.0

Bloom 0.2

Sat 1.0

Dynamic Reflections Middle setting

DL OFF

Landing light OFF as with FSL you need DL ON to work

Lens flare OFF

Shadows

Shadow quality low

Shadow draw distance MAX

Casting and receiving

Options ticked are

Internal vehicle both ON

External Vehicle both ON

Simulation Objects both ON (makes airports come to life big time)

Clouds Cast ON

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All Traffic OFF I use UTL for that. Cars are killers imo.

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That's it, night time is different and so is PMDG.

 

 

 

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47 minutes ago, Nyxx said:

Am at work but here are my Day time setting.

This is for FSL DAY ONLY

Display

FFAA=OFF

AA=8xSSAA

Texture Filtering 16x

Texture Res 4096

FPS locked at 26 (FFTF =0.10)

-------

World

Terrain from top to bottom

high

Med

5m

30cm

I use "TICK "use high res terrain textures

Scenery Complexity

Top to bottom

Normal

Med

Normal

Normal

I use Orbx HD trees so Dynamic 3D Autogen Veg OFF

Water

Med

All Reflections OFF

Special Effects

Both Med

----------------------------

Lighting

HDR

Brightness 1.0

Bloom 0.2

Sat 1.0

Dynamic Reflections Middle setting

DL OFF

Landing light OFF as with FSL you need DL ON to work

Lens flare OFF

Shadows

Shadow quality low

Shadow draw distance MAX

Casting and receiving

Options ticked are

Internal vehicle both ON

External Vehicle both ON

Simulation Objects both ON (makes airports come to life big time)

Clouds Cast ON

------------

All Traffic OFF I use UTL for that. Cars are killers imo.

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That's it, night time is different and so is PMDG.

 

 

 

Thanks David. Will try your setup. Looks like i have some sliders like complexity to high.Unlimited fps@25HZ is amazingly smooth on my system. Thanks Michael Moe. Will report back. 

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Hi all,

 

a short question,

 

i'm using ENV, EF, SF & AS.  Is it okay to use the shaders of ENV and EF at the same time or collide them, using them parralel?

 

Joachim

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Has anyone had any issues with visibility?

 

When I used EF in auto mode and no weather smoothing, the visibility at the surface does not match the reported conditions in ASP4. What config do I need to use such that ASP4 changes my visibility?

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Yes, visibility issues here also, just spent 4 hrs testing EF and decided to go back to tomatoshade now. 

I also had strange issue where the 3d cloud size kept pulsing large/small. I was watching the mini UI and the numbers were going up/down 0.64-0.54. It got really annoying and I have seen this on previous builds also. 

They will get EF right eventually and its a great concept but I dont want to be constantly testing software!  

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