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Hi,

Just got everything setup. I ran PPG without the Generate airline type option checked. I linked in PSXT to the PPG output folder (hitting the connect button). After doing this, no parked aircraft will load. It was loading before I ran PPG with the default files in PSXT, but just misaligned to the parking spots. I am testing this at KLAX using the FSDT scenery.

Also, I downloaded a bunch of files from here: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B8ort7flXQyTb2RJXzNiSUYtWjg as shown in one of your other posts, but the files are just txt files and not xml files. I am not sure what to do with these, but if they are better configured airports, I would prefer them. Any guidance on how to use them?

Lastly, I get an error on starting saying it cannot determine the wingspan of my aircraft and report to the forum. I have the Aerosoft A321 professional loaded.

My log file:

Sun May  5 08:01:53 2019 (utc)
version 14.6
PSXT (64 bit)
for Prepar3D v4.5

***************************** parameters *****************************
RANDOM=true
MAIN_WINDOW_X=-1688
MAIN_WINDOW_Y=150
NON_REAL_REMOVAL_THRESHOLD=30
VERSION_CHECKED_AT=Sun May  5
PROGRAM_VERSION=14.6
INSTALL_PATH=C:\PSXseeconTraffic
LIVE=true
ALWAYS_ON_TOP=false
ADD_FLIGHTPLAN=false
HEAVY_MIDDLE_AIRCRAFT=true
LIGHT_AIRCRAFT=true
HELICOPTERS=false
INCLUDE_UFOS=true
AUTO_MODE=false
GROUND_TRAFFIC=false
LIVE_IF_USER_AIRBORNE=false
COLLISION_USER_GND=true
COLLISION_LIVE_PARKED_GND=true
LOG_MATCHING=false
LOG_PARK=false
LOG_XML=false
UPS=25
LATERAL_RANGE=40
FLOOR_ALTITUDE=-1000
LIVERIES_FOLDER=installation_liveries
AIRPORTS_FOLDER=C:\ParkPosGenerator\airports
FLIGHTPLANSFOLDER=
BLOCK_CALLSIGN=
**********************************************************************

Reading airport's data from airport files in "C:\ParkPosGenerator\airports"
Reading airport's data from airport files in "parked_updates"
9969 airports found
Searching for ParkPosGenerator at this PC
PROGRAM_VERSION=9.8
INSTALL_PATH=C:\ParkPosGenerator
OUTPUT_FOLDER=airports
Initializing server at port 10747
Waiting for FlightSimulator to connect ...
Waiting for data provider to connect to PSXT ...
Lockheed Martin Prepar3D v4 connected
Data provider connected

Aircraft type information read from "data\types.xml"
*** author:   PSXseeconTraffic
*** version:  12.11
*** date:     Sat Dec  1

Wingspan information read from "data\wingspan.xml"
*** author:   PSXseeconTraffic
*** version:  13.0
*** date:     Sat Dec  1
    max possible half wingspan: 35.9

*************************************** liveries summary ***************************************
1674 liveries read from file "installation_liveries\AI_liveries.xml"
*** author:   AILGenerator
*** version:  3.0
*** date:     Mon Nov 12
71 registration codes
generic Boeing liveries for 2 types: B744 B748 
generic Airbus liveries for 3 types: A21N A319 A320 
no generic Embraer liveries
no generic Bombardier liveries
no generic ATR liveries
no generic Private liveries
363 unique airlines
83 unique aircraft types
Default livery set for aircraft category Heavy, type B763, # liveries: 56
Default livery set for aircraft category Middle, type A320, # liveries: 286
Default livery set for aircraft category Light, type PC12, # liveries: 6
No default livery found for aircraft category Heli
************************************************************************************************

User aircraft title: Aerosoft A321 professional AMERICAN AIRL
User aircraft model: A321IAE
User aircraft wing span unknown, max is taken instead, please report in Forum!
Flightplan search activated
Park airport is: KLAX (LAX)

Parkpos file "C:\ParkPosGenerator\airports\KLAX.xml" for Los Angeles Intl
*** author:   ParkPosGenerator
*** version:  9.8
*** date:     Sun May  5
    supplier: P3D FS Dreamteam
    178 parking positions
    not yet updated

No aircraft to be parked, there are no parking position with airline + type options
Connecting QNHReader to UDP port 49004 ...
QNHReader connected
Connecting TrafficReader to UDP port 49003 ...
TrafficReader connected
08:01:57 QNH: 1012
 

Thanks,

Chris

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Posted (edited)

Hi Chris,

Everything is looking good except for the wingspan issue. 

You should just let PSXT run for say 24 hours and it will build up real live parking positions for KLAX in your airport file. Currently there are no parking options defined in your file because you ran PPG with that option unchecked. If you run it again with checked it will generate fake airline+type options for your gates and PSXT will gradually update the file with real live options. It is just what you want.

About getting airport files from other locations: You can only use .xml files, no .txt files, they have become obsolete. Also check if the .xml file has the lat/lon coordinates of the airport and that each parking position has radius info.

The wingspan of you aircraft is not recognised because Aerosoft wrongly codes your model as A321IAE instead of A321. If you change that PSXT will be satified, but Aerosoft then can no longer see what engines are installed. So you better let it go. You will only notice that other aircraft that are in collision with yours will disappear sooner because PSXT takes max wingspan for you (as if you are a A388).

Nico

P.S. Do note that real live parking position info can only be obtained if pilots keep their Transponder on at the ground. Not sure if that is the case in LAX but from the live stream on the internet I would think so.

Also note that if you are going to use an airport file from somebody else you should put it in the PSXseeconTraffic\parked_updates folder.

 

Edited by kiek

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I had ran ppg with the option checked at first and still had no parked aircraft. been running about 12 hrs now and still no parked planes.

Is there a repository of airport files created for popular addon airports that I can download that is no longer obsolete?

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15 hours ago, truthknown said:

I had ran ppg with the option checked at first and still had no parked aircraft.

That is not possible, then you made some mistake. Make sure there is not already a KLAX.xml in PSXseeconTraffic\parked_updates. If so, delete that file first and then run PPG with the option checked. You will certainly see parked aircraft.. (35% default).

No there is no repository with files that fit the latest PSXT, only the files at my website. 

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Because there is some confusion about parked aircraft I have added three items to the FAQ (at the end) about parked aircraft.

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I had done everything correctly as you put in the manuals (which I read all thoroughly). Anyway, when I unchecked all of the collision avoid ground boxes, then planes began parking at the gates at KLAX. All is great there now, I let it run for 24 hrs + and its created a great mapping and it looks great.

Now my next issue is at KJFK. I did the same thing with Drzwiecki Design's KJFK. Not many planes were parking at gates. Realized the radius settings in the afcad were pretty terrible so I edited those in the KJFK.xml (in the parked_updates folder) to make them larger. That resolved many gates and more planes are parking. However, there are many gates where planes still refuse to park. Particularly at Terminal 8 (American Airlines) and Terminal 1 (International). I have all the radius values large enough to accommodate all aircraft that would park at these gates. When American airlines planes land, they begin to taxi toward Terminal 8, then when they get somewhat close, they freeze and then disappear, never actually making it to the terminal or its gates. Only 5 gates out of 20+ have any planes parked at it at terminal 8. Ive been running it for more than 12 hrs now, so I would have expected a full terminal.  My parking % is at 100% for the mapping exercise.

Any thoughts?

 

Thanks,

Chris

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My thoughts of what could be issues:

  • Does the AI aircraft interact with the AFCAD in any way? I notice the planes going toward Terminal 8 typically freeze on the taxiway bridge crossing the highway. In the AFCAD, the bridge taxiways are set as type: Runway, and not type: taxi. There are also paths connecting the runway sections to the taxi sections. Could this be creating confusion for the AI aircraft?
  • Terminal 8 is too far from the defined airport coordinates? Not sure if there is a limitation in how far ground traffic shows/taxis away from the main airport coordinates. Terminal 8 is about 0.8 nm from the KJFK coordinate.
  • Multiple major airports within the lateral range set in PSXT. NYC has KJFK, KLGA, and KEWR all in close proximity. Could the traffic from the other airports be causing a limitation of parked planes at KJFK?

 

This is the section of the KJFK.xml file that is configured for Terminal 8:

    <parkpos id="H1" latitude="40.646664" longitude="-73.794434" heading="29.1" radius="35.0" />
    <parkpos id="H10" latitude="40.648335" longitude="-73.792290" heading="151.3" radius="35.0" />
    <parkpos id="H12" latitude="40.648487" longitude="-73.791786" heading="172.3" radius="35.0" />
    <parkpos id="H131" latitude="40.648579" longitude="-73.795158" heading="330.8" radius="18.0" />
    <parkpos id="H14" latitude="40.649040" longitude="-73.790558" heading="171.9" radius="35.0">
        <aircraft>
            <option airlines="AAL" types="B772" real="true" hours="2,3" />
        </aircraft>
    </parkpos>
    <parkpos id="H16" latitude="40.649303" longitude="-73.789864" heading="198.9" radius="35.0">
        <aircraft>
            <option airlines="AAL" types="B77W" real="true" hours="10,11" />
        </aircraft>
    </parkpos>
    <parkpos id="H2" latitude="40.647129" longitude="-73.795029" heading="161.5" radius="35.0" />
    <parkpos id="H231" latitude="40.648373" longitude="-73.795570" heading="330.8" radius="18.0" />
    <parkpos id="H3" latitude="40.646729" longitude="-73.793198" heading="336.6" radius="35.0" />
    <parkpos id="H33" latitude="40.648819" longitude="-73.794670" heading="330.8" radius="35.0" />
    <parkpos id="H331" latitude="40.648186" longitude="-73.795868" heading="346.9" radius="18.0" />
    <parkpos id="H34" latitude="40.649628" longitude="-73.795204" heading="165.1" radius="35.0" />
    <parkpos id="H35" latitude="40.649052" longitude="-73.794121" heading="330.8" radius="35.0" />
    <parkpos id="H36" latitude="40.649811" longitude="-73.794632" heading="150.6" radius="35.0" />
    <parkpos id="H37" latitude="40.649277" longitude="-73.793564" heading="330.8" radius="35.0" />
    <parkpos id="H38" latitude="40.650047" longitude="-73.794083" heading="150.6" radius="35.0">
        <aircraft>
            <option airlines="AAL" types="A321" real="true" hours="0,1" />
        </aircraft>
    </parkpos>
    <parkpos id="H39" latitude="40.649555" longitude="-73.793045" heading="330.8" radius="35.0">
        <aircraft>
            <option airlines="AAL" types="A321" real="true" hours="21,22" />
        </aircraft>
    </parkpos>
    <parkpos id="H4" latitude="40.647457" longitude="-73.794212" heading="150.6" radius="35.0" />
    <parkpos id="H40" latitude="40.650284" longitude="-73.793510" heading="150.1" radius="35.0" />
    <parkpos id="H41" latitude="40.649792" longitude="-73.792496" heading="330.8" radius="35.0" />
    <parkpos id="H42" latitude="40.650520" longitude="-73.792984" heading="150.1" radius="35.0" />
    <parkpos id="H43" latitude="40.650249" longitude="-73.791405" heading="345.5" radius="35.0" />
    <parkpos id="H431" latitude="40.648148" longitude="-73.796165" heading="355.2" radius="18.0" />
    <parkpos id="H44" latitude="40.650745" longitude="-73.792427" heading="150.6" radius="35.0" />
    <parkpos id="H45" latitude="40.650482" longitude="-73.790840" heading="330.5" radius="35.0" />
    <parkpos id="H46" latitude="40.651012" longitude="-73.791809" heading="150.6" radius="35.0" />
    <parkpos id="H47" latitude="40.650833" longitude="-73.790352" heading="310.1" radius="35.0">
        <aircraft>
            <option airlines="CPA" types="B77W" real="true" hours="0,1,3,4,11,12" />
        </aircraft>
    </parkpos>
    <parkpos id="H5" latitude="40.647007" longitude="-73.792465" heading="345.3" radius="35.0" />
    <parkpos id="H532" latitude="40.649017" longitude="-73.795731" heading="68.8" radius="18.0" />
    <parkpos id="H6" latitude="40.647766" longitude="-73.793457" heading="150.6" radius="35.0" />
    <parkpos id="H632" latitude="40.649254" longitude="-73.795776" heading="75.0" radius="18.0" />
    <parkpos id="H7" latitude="40.647015" longitude="-73.791748" heading="8.2" radius="35.0" />
    <parkpos id="H732" latitude="40.649494" longitude="-73.795692" heading="114.5" radius="18.0" />
    <parkpos id="H8" latitude="40.648121" longitude="-73.792870" heading="151.3" radius="35.0" />
    <parkpos id="H832" latitude="40.649715" longitude="-73.795692" heading="151.2" radius="18.0" />

 

Terminal 1:

    <parkpos id="F1" latitude="40.643982" longitude="-73.792389" heading="90.4" radius="33.0" />
    <parkpos id="F10" latitude="40.640858" longitude="-73.792801" heading="358.2" radius="33.0" />
    <parkpos id="F2" latitude="40.643768" longitude="-73.792252" heading="43.8" radius="33.0" />
    <parkpos id="F3" latitude="40.642826" longitude="-73.791908" heading="105.1" radius="41.0" />
    <parkpos id="F4" latitude="40.642166" longitude="-73.790810" heading="336.8" radius="41.0" />
    <parkpos id="F5" latitude="40.642223" longitude="-73.792625" heading="151.3" radius="41.0" />
    <parkpos id="F6" latitude="40.641670" longitude="-73.791550" heading="306.4" radius="41.0">
        <aircraft>
            <option airlines="AFR" types="B772" real="true" hours="0,1,21,22,23" />
        </aircraft>
    </parkpos>
    <parkpos id="F7" latitude="40.641754" longitude="-73.793167" heading="108.3" radius="41.0" />
    <parkpos id="F8" latitude="40.641232" longitude="-73.792168" heading="327.2" radius="41.0">
        <aircraft>
            <option airlines="KAL" types="A388" real="true" hours="15,16" />
        </aircraft>
    </parkpos>
    <parkpos id="F9" latitude="40.641155" longitude="-73.793556" heading="108.3" radius="41.0" />

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On 5/7/2019 at 5:27 PM, truthknown said:

 When American airlines planes land, they begin to taxi toward Terminal 8, then when they get somewhat close, they freeze and then disappear, never actually making it to the terminal or its gates. 

That is caused by the pilot switching off the transponder. If it is within approx 55 meters of a gate, PSXT will slowly move it into position, but if it is further away it will simply disappear. I think in FR24 you will see it also disappear. 

Just continue flying and/or plane spotting  at JFK, at the end of the day most gates of the terminal will have had traffic. The best chances are departing traffic.

Edited by kiek

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On 5/7/2019 at 5:43 PM, truthknown said:

Does the AI aircraft interact with the AFCAD in any way? 

No

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On 5/7/2019 at 5:43 PM, truthknown said:
  • Terminal 8 is too far from the defined airport coordinates?

No.

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On 5/7/2019 at 5:43 PM, truthknown said:
  • Multiple major airports within the lateral range set in PSXT. NYC has KJFK, KLGA, and KEWR all in close proximity. Could the traffic from the other airports be causing a limitation of parked planes at KJFK?

No

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