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This may very well be the best piece of freeware available for P3D right now.  It’s absolutely amazing and to me renders payware AI products redundant.  

I’ve donated before and certainly will again.  Well done to the team!

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1 hour ago, Dave_YVR said:

 My only question out of curiosity as I've seen this mentioned a few times now in various groups/forums though is why? The AI injection method isn't any better on performance. The best part of UTL is that some (many flights don't) of its traffic operates on routes which is nice but those routes need to be more varied and similar to those used in the real world instead of the basic unrealistic ones created with the FSX flight planner. It's a tiny plus compared to the quirks that come with it. 

I don't know if it makes sense,  but I always thought UTL AI injection mode is better in performance. Sure it is not? The other reason what could justify it, would be that AI density level can be changed more easily. But as I said, I would only try it if I can transfer my whole AIG-OC setup (a/c + liveries + flightplans) in an easy way. I mean I would not keep anything from UTL except its engine. I know It is already possible, but very cumbersome.

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Fair enough. No, there's no performance gains from using UTL and injected traffic. The only reason it might seem that way is due to a much smaller number of aircraft in your traffic bubble.

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1 hour ago, DPetitme said:

Hi

Populate UTL with the AI Aircrafts loaded by AIGAIM - OCI is very easy.

You just need :

AI2UTL which automatically creates a file repaints.xml with the AI Aircrafts of AIGAIM (you don't need to affect anything)

- UTL_FP which arrange the combinations airlines-aircrafts in UTL if you will change something.

You will find the explanation there :

https://ultimatetraffic.flight1.net/forums/forum_posts.asp?TID=17778&title=ai2utl-injector-tool

I am very happy with the results.

Regards

Denis

Thanks. For me it looks still a bit complicated but maybe I'll try after I've made all necessary backups.

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So far I am very impressed with AIG flight manager. A question I have is, do AI follow realistic routes and SID/STARS or its a direct to?

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27 minutes ago, Daedalus said:

So far I am very impressed with AIG flight manager. A question I have is, do AI follow realistic routes and SID/STARS or its a direct to?

They follow whatever the specific ATC tells them to follow. The default ATC (and most other ATC add-ons that do not control AI aircraft) will not direct the AIG aircraft to follow departures and arrivals. They will follow approach procedures (ILS, etc.) and land on the active runway depending on the wind direction. VOXATC will cause the AIG aircraft to correctly follow all approaches, arrivals and departures. This is how BGL flight schedules work in FSX and P3d.

As to enroute AI movement, only UTL AI aircraft will follow waypoints enroute. With BGL flight schedules, AI aircraft while enroute, will fly directly from the departure airport to the destination airport.

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14 minutes ago, jabloomf1230 said:

They follow whatever the specific ATC tells them to follow. The default ATC (and most other ATC add-ons that do not control AI aircraft) will not direct the AIG aircraft to follow departures and arrivals. They will follow approach procedures (ILS, etc.) and land on the active runway depending on the wind direction. VOXATC will cause the AIG aircraft to correctly follow all approaches, arrivals and departures. This is how BGL flight schedules work in FSX and P3d.

As to enroute AI movement, only UTL AI aircraft will follow waypoints enroute. With BGL flight schedules, AI aircraft while enroute, will fly directly from the departure airport to the destination airport.

Thank you very much Jay for the very explanatory reply : )

I see there is a way to merge UTL and AIG models/liveries as Denis mentioned earlier, however it seems to me that AIG has bigger variety of aircraft models and repaints than this merging can offer, so I'll stay with the pure AIG manager solution. 

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5 hours ago, Daedalus said:

I see there is a way to merge UTL and AIG models/liveries as Denis mentioned earlier, however it seems to me that AIG has bigger variety of aircraft models and repaints than this merging can offer, so I'll stay with the pure AIG manager solution.

By far the best option. As mentioned before, UTL really only brings en route airways to the table and they are pretty poor at that.

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We at AIG might create a new type of Flightplan, that will contain the PLN file and them we will inject them via SimConnect. But this will be a longterm....

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Add me to the list of converts! 👍😁 It took me two days to install everything but the effort was worth it.

I had been using UTLive but their routes and aircraft was nowhere near the real thing. It’s now being used for GA Traffic only.

I decided to set Ai to 100 in P3D and have a test flight from KLAS to KSFO. Loads of Ai departing around dawn and enroute there were always 30+ Ai around me. By the time I landed at KSFO FSUIPC was counting over 600 Ai in the bubble. Airborne and at KSFO.

Despite the setting my fps remained in the 20s landing on 28R. Fantastic. The only reason I may need to lower the setting is so I have a gate at my destination.

Clearly this is a labour of love for the developers and it shows. If they accept donations I will definitely be making one. 👍

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Farewell UTlive. I knew I shouldn't have purchased you - with your lack of updates, old liveries, and poor support. 

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I am still confused on how to set this up.  Where does it download the models etc? does it do it automatically

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15 minutes ago, Skywolf said:

I am still confused on how to set this up.  Where does it download the models etc? does it do it automatically

Automatic. If you have payware AI like FSP, it will grab it off your hard drive. It's a snazzy piece of kit.

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14 minutes ago, Skywolf said:

I am still confused on how to set this up.  Where does it download the models etc? does it do it automatically

Follow the steps in the tutorial included in the download zip. You select airlines and the associated aircraft and flight plans are installed. Whilst there is a multi-select option it does take a while to install all airlines. Think several hours.

It helps if you have accounts for AvSim library and flightsim.com as many aircraft are sourced in those locations.

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5 hours ago, Ray Proudfoot said:

Add me to the list of converts! 👍😁 It took me two days to install everything but the effort was worth it.

I had been using UTLive but their routes and aircraft was nowhere near the real thing. It’s now being used for GA Traffic only.

I decided to set Ai to 100 in P3D and have a test flight from KLAS to KSFO. Loads of Ai departing around dawn and enroute there were always 30+ Ai around me. By the time I landed at KSFO FSUIPC was counting over 600 Ai in the bubble. Airborne and at KSFO.

Despite the setting my fps remained in the 20s landing on 28R. Fantastic. The only reason I may need to lower the setting is so I have a gate at my destination.

Clearly this is a labour of love for the developers and it shows. If they accept donations I will definitely be making one. 👍

Brilliant, isn't it? After installing I did KSFO-KLAX. The sheer volume of traffic around, seeing all those aircraft land one after another at KLAS was nothing short of exhilarating! And the best thing is that I never have any trouble getting a parking spot either! (to my surprise, admittedly)

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2 hours ago, Ray Proudfoot said:

Follow the steps in the tutorial included in the download zip. You select airlines and the associated aircraft and flight plans are installed. Whilst there is a multi-select option it does take a while to install all airlines. Think several hours.

It helps if you have accounts for AvSim library and flightsim.com as many aircraft are sourced in those locations.

Thank you,

Right now, my time is extremely limited to this hobby.  I can not allocate several hours.  Looks like UTLive for me - for now

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10 minutes ago, Skywolf said:

Thank you,

Right now, my time is extremely limited to this hobby.  I can not allocate several hours.  Looks like UTLive for me - for now

You can select all of your airlines, kick it off, and go do something else until it finishes. You don't have to watch it the whole time.

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56 minutes ago, MDFlier said:

You can select all of your airlines, kick it off, and go do something else until it finishes. You don't have to watch it the whole time.

I just installed Delta planes but I keep getting duplicate model during start up and have to click ok many times?  I do not see this in the tutorial file

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53 minutes ago, Skywolf said:

I just installed Delta planes but I keep getting duplicate model during start up and have to click ok many times?  I do not see this in the tutorial file

Which means you have duplicate title name as you have ai already installed ?

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2 hours ago, Skywolf said:

I just installed Delta planes but I keep getting duplicate model during start up and have to click ok many times?  I do not see this in the tutorial file

please post the report over at the AIG-Forum and upload the logs there as well 🙂 I am sure we will find the cause of that 😉 Do you have added any Path to the SimObject.cfg, if so you can delete it, AIM-OCI uses the addon.xml method to inject the paths on startup

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9 hours ago, Benjamin J said:

Brilliant, isn't it? After installing I did KSFO-KLAX. The sheer volume of traffic around, seeing all those aircraft land one after another at KLAS was nothing short of exhilarating! And the best thing is that I never have any trouble getting a parking spot either! (to my surprise, admittedly)

What is your traffic %? I did have a problem at KSFO but I selected my gate when below 10,000ft and although there was an aircraft parked at my gate I just used FSUIPC Traffic Zapper to remove it.

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6 hours ago, Skywolf said:

I just installed Delta planes but I keep getting duplicate model during start up and have to click ok many times?  I do not see this in the tutorial file

I only got one warning of a duplicate and that was because I had selected both Winter 2018 and Summer 2018 schedules for Flybondi. Delta was clean so you should submit the log as requested.

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6 hours ago, Skywolf said:

I just installed Delta planes but I keep getting duplicate model during start up and have to click ok many times?

Do you also have FLAI / BVAI? if so this could be the source of the duplication as you might have those models already installed via FLAI.

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