Meigs

[Guest Ken_Salter]

Haven't seen anyone ask this, and apologoies if it has been...Will Meigs in FSX exist at all? Will it exist and be closed? Or will it exist and be usable?

[Guest]

If history is an indication it will exist in the state it was when the dataset was closed, which likely means not at all.

[Guest Ken_Salter]

Such is my feeling also. Then allow a third party to put it back (hopefully freeware).But just curious if someone from Microsoft ;-) would have any thoughts on this.

[Datalink 26]

Ahhh, the old home of FS. I miss arriving and departing from there. It was once the home of many flight simmers first flights I bet - however long they were :-lol I hope it could be included, but I doubt that it will be :-(I was just thinking, why was Meigs the default start location to begin with? what made MS decide to start from there?

[JSkorna 137]

Hi,It was Bruce from Simlogic who made that choice. I believe it was his home airport.Hope this helps,Jimhttp://www.hifisim.com/Active Sky V6 Development TeamActive Sky V6 Proud SupporterHiFi Beta TeamRadar Contact Supporter

[rodger 0]

Hi Jim,just a little correction :-) I'm sure you meant SubLogic. And Bruce Artwick (at least the office)was in Greater Kankakee(KIKK) as far as I remember. But I'm not sure if that was the reason to chose Meigs. Anyway, I'd too love to see it back in FSX. Let's keep our fingers crossed.Rodger :-wave

[KERNEL32 497]

>Hi Jim,>>just a little correction :-) >>I'm sure you meant SubLogic. And Bruce Artwick (at least the>office)>was in Greater Kankakee(KIKK) as far as I remember.I thought they (office) were located down in Champaign, Illinois?

[JSkorna 137]

Yep, I had it spelled wrong and then corrected it wrong!I think on the history of FS site this is explained.Hope this helps,Jimhttp://www.hifisim.com/Active Sky V6 Development TeamActive Sky V6 Proud SupporterHiFi Beta TeamRadar Contact Supporter

[rodger 0]

Hi Tom,you are right, I got mixed up, of course it was Champaign.Sorry for any confusion,Rodger :-wave

[siggy 154]

Hi Guys,I think the origin (0,0) of the old FS3/FS4 coordinate system was somewhere around Champaign. Back then we did not have latitude/longitude, it simply was a grid that ranged from -16384 to +16383 in each direction. Wonder what exactly was at the origin ?Cheers,Siggy

[Guest sclincoln]

It was a nice airport to start from because it offered a cityscape view right from startup, it was oriented N-S with runways 36/18 which made for easy pattern work, it offered the beginner VFR pilot instant orientation (water on my right, must be going north), and it was a nice short flight to an ILS approach at O'Hare.I just started teaching my wife to fly a little bit (she finally agreed to give it a try), so we started out at 'ole Meigs.

[Mace 1,902]

In FS4, Meigs coordinates were 17189 North, and 16671 East. Champaign Willard was 16400 North and 16465 East, so I don't think 0, 0 was near Champaign.Back in SubLogic FS II, I had the Japan Scenery Disk, and the coordinates of Tokyo (Narita) were 18375 North, 32940 East. I'm not sure how all of that worked. :)Rhett

[siggy 154]

Thanks, my memory was a bit incorrect then, I guess the range of coordinates was 0...32767 in each direction and 16384,16384 (which is half way) was somewhere in Champaign itself, the grey polygon near the airport :-).Cheers,Siggy

[N400QW 205]

Bruce did live in Champaign during early development of FS at University of Illinois. Although not a flightsimmer at the time, I recall visiting UI Willard often for number of purposes during that time. Often wondered if we ever unkowingly crossed paths? Wish I had met him and the group who assisted him:-)Having lived in "Chambana", the twin cities of Champaign and Urbana, Il. for over twenty years I assume the "grey polygon" would include some of the housing next to the Blue or Orange UI Golf courses adjacent to UI Willard.Both my sons live there, and a visit last weekend revealed that UI School of Aviation seems to be flourishing:-)

[MD83 1]

For some reason I never flew from Meigs ... ever :-lol. It doesn't mean anything to me, and I was indifferent when it closed http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v615/Dar...0/ph34rblag.gif