Thomasso

The best traffic and ATC combo?

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So, if I understand correctly... If I max AIG traffic density settings, I see the same number of planes that actually are at the airport at the given time in real life, correct?

That should indeed be the case.

For the record, even though I do not have anything like the most powerful PC in the world, my AI planes are set @ 100%. Like Ray, I prefer to see lots of AI planes at my airports, irrespective of the performance hit :wink:

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8 hours ago, Ray Proudfoot said:

Tomas, here are my settings:-

TRAFFIC. Ai Density 100%; Airport Vehicle Density High

DISPLAY. FXAA Off; AA: 2xMSAA; Anisotropic 16x; Texture Res Ultra; VSync On; Trip Buff On; Unlimited.

WORLD

TERRAIN: LoD Ultra; Tess Factor HIgh; Mesh Res 1mtr; Texture Res 60cm; Use High Res terrain text On

SCENERY OBJECTS: Sc Complex Very Dense; AutoGen Dist High; AutoGen Veg Dense; AutoGen Bld Dense; Dynamic 3D AutoGen On

WATER &BATHYMETRY: Water Detail Ultra; Enable Bathymetry Off; Reflections Clouds & User Vehicles On.

SPECIAL EFFECTS: Both set to High.

LIGHTING

HDR Off; Dynamic Reflections Off; Dynamic Lighting, Landing Lights and Lens Flare all on.

SHADOWS: Shad Quality High; Sh Draw Dist HIgh

CASTING & RECEIVING

Cast On for Int Vehicle, Ext Vehicle, Clouds and Terrain. Recv On for Int Veh and Ext Veh.

WEATHER

Cloud DD = 90nm; Coverage Dens Maximum; Detailed Clouds On; Vol Fog On; Det Precip On; Windsh Effects On

I have no restriction on Ai with 100% set in P3D and nothing set in FSUIPC. Min 1% and Max 99% in AIG.

Monitor runs at 3840*2160@60Hz. Hope that helps.

Wow! I just tested your settings Ray and I have like 30-40 fps with 100 % traffic at LOWW! Absolutely amazing stuff! Thank you so much for sharing!

 

Do you guys have any idea why I would be also seeing the default P3D liveries (Orbit, World Travel or what it's called...)?

And one other observation: don't you think that the AI's braking distance is too short? For example, an A380 Emirates just landed in Vienna and the braking seemed very, very quick, like applying MAX AUTOBRAKE in the FsLabs A320, lol. Any way I could change that?

 

But seriously, thanks, this is golden 🙂

Tomas

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Tomas, glad it worked so well. I’m curious what your settings were. Can you remember any you changed that were significantly different to what you had before?

The default Ai are held in a BGL in P3D\scenery\world\scenery but the name escapes me.

The Ai are stupid, not intelligent. Sadly nothing can be done about the braking distance until LM change something.

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Here’s something you might want to try. Download Ai Companion and let it build its indexes. https://www.alpha-india.net/forums/index.php?topic=29651.0

Then with Live Data showing right-click any entry and choose View in Simulator.

The view will change to a spot plane view of that aircraft and you can delight in the great detail on these aircraft.

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4 minutes ago, Ray Proudfoot said:

 Sadly nothing can be done about the braking distance until LM change something.

You might want to check out the AIG forums as there's a user there who has updated the aircraft.cfg files for many of the common AI aircraft like for example, FAIB. These updates make the takeoff and landing characteristics more realistic.

https://www.alpha-india.net/forums/index.php?topic=29801.0

You might need to be a registered user at the AIG forums to view the thread.

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Jay, I am a registered user but have you tried these yourself?

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51 minutes ago, Ray Proudfoot said:

Tomas, glad it worked so well. I’m curious what your settings were. Can you remember any you changed that were significantly different to what you had before?

The default Ai are held in a BGL in P3D\scenery\world\scenery but the name escapes me.

The Ai are stupid, not intelligent. Sadly nothing can be done about the braking distance until LM change something.

Sure, no problem! Please see the images attached.

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Unfortunately, I wasn't able to find the default livery files. 😞 Thanks for the Ai Companion though 🙂

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Thanks Tomas. I can see a couple of settings that would affect performance.

I’ll have a look for the default Ai file tomorrow.

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13 hours ago, Thomasso said:

Hi, thank you for this insight! Would this work well with AIG?

Tomas

You’re welcome, it will work great with AIG (what i use) or any other bgl based AI traffic.

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And one other observation: don't you think that the AI's braking distance is too short? For example, an A380 Emirates just landed in Vienna and the braking seemed very, very quick, like applying MAX AUTOBRAKE in the FsLabs A320, lol. Any way I could change that?

Plans are in the pipeline to correct this, but another product needs to be completed and released first :wink:

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20 hours ago, Ray Proudfoot said:

Jay, I am a registered user but have you tried these yourself?

Yes. I initially edited the lines for the FAIB A320 models as a test and it did seem to work. Doing this also made me realize that all the exit coordinate corrections that I made for SODE compliance had to be redone because the AIG Manager OCI model versions use the default FAIB exit coordinates.

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Thanks Jay although I'm confused about the SODE thing with the exits. I'm not interested in seeing jetways move for AIG aircraft, just my own. If I copy and paste the supplied text for the relevant aircraft.cfg will it bugger anything up?

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You should be okay. Most of the exit data in aircraft.cfg is close enough except for a few SODE jetways. If you don't like the new versions just revert to the original aircraft.cfg.

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I own UTL and AIG looks very interesting (had no idea)!  Simple question: which one is better with performance (FPS, stutters, etc.)?  I am under the impression that UTL’s injection function is better and more optimized than 100s of traffic bgl files inside the sim...

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@windycloud, the Ai textures in AIG are 64-bit optimised for P3Dv4 only. The quality of the aircraft is excellent. No issues with lots of BGL files. Just longer loading times. No stutters. Try it for yourself. Just install one airline - BA - and locate to EGLL and you will see the difference.

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1 hour ago, jabloomf1230 said:

You should be okay. Most of the exit data in aircraft.cfg is close enough except for a few SODE jetways. If you don't like the new versions just revert to the original aircraft.cfg.

Thanks Jay. I’ll try one and see how different it is.

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