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First of all thank for the help,

I’m currently using p3d v4.5 with an Asus ROG monitor at 2K resolution. The sim runs smooth at 45-60 FPS. Last night I wanted to try my 4K Samsung TV as monitor for my PC and everything is fine except for the fact that my 1080TI is always boosted at 100% and after a while it starts heating up to much. Even using a 2K resolution it still runs at 100%. With my ASUS monitor GPU usage was at around 50-60%. Is there any reason why? I also tried to turn off AA an FXAA but no changes....GPU still at 100% all time

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Lots more workload at 4K vs HD resolution...four times as much in fact.

I run a 55-inch 4K Samsung JS8500 TV as my sim monitor, and the key to success has been to set the PC to output at a 30Hz refresh rate, with unlimited frame rate target, and with VSync and triple-buffer turned on in P3D.  It holds 30fps rock-solid, and doesn't cook the GPU trying to crank out 8.3 megapixels per frame as fast as it possibly can trying to hit 60 fps.  Typical GPU load on my RTX2080Ti is in the 40-60% range unless I'm in heavy weather or using dynamic lighting at night, when it runs closer to 80%.

Regards

 

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Thanks. That is exactely what I did. Monitor is set to 4K 30HZ with vsync and triple buffer on. I’m also getting steady 30FPS but with a CPU usage of 100%

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2 hours ago, matteospacca said:

Thanks. That is exactely what I did. Monitor is set to 4K 30HZ with vsync and triple buffer on. I’m also getting steady 30FPS but with a CPU usage of 100%

Is your frame rate target in P3D set to "unlimited"?  If you set it to a fixed value, the CPU will be loaded up to its capacity trying to produce frames to fill the lookahead buffer...with unlimited it'll only produce frames at the VSync rate.  Some other settings, like large autogen LOD, dense autogen, and heavy AI loads can also slam the CPU.  But if you're stutter-free at 30 but with 100% CPU all the time, I suspect you have something other than unlimited set as your target.

Also, FFTF Dynamic does some good on giving the CPU a bigger time slice when scenery/texture processing loads are minimal (like on the ground).

Last, there's no info here on your system...could be related to system power/performance issues as well.  100% load on a 3 GHz quad-core CPU wouldn't be surprising, for example.

Regards


Bob Scott | President and CEO, AVSIM Inc
ATP Gulfstream II-III-IV-V

System1 (P3Dv5/v4): i9-13900KS @ 6.0GHz, water 2x360mm, ASUS Z790 Hero, 32GB GSkill 7800MHz CAS36, ASUS RTX4090
Samsung 55" JS8500 4K TV@30Hz,
3x 2TB WD SN850X 1x 4TB Crucial P3 M.2 NVME SSD, EVGA 1600T2 PSU, 1.2Gbps internet
Fiber link to Yamaha RX-V467 Home Theater Receiver, Polk/Klipsch 6" bookshelf speakers, Polk 12" subwoofer, 12.9" iPad Pro
PFC yoke/throttle quad/pedals with custom Hall sensor retrofit, Thermaltake View 71 case, Stream Deck XL button box

Sys2 (MSFS/XPlane): i9-10900K @ 5.1GHz, 32GB 3600/15, nVidia RTX4090FE, Alienware AW3821DW 38" 21:9 GSync, EVGA 1000P2
Thrustmaster TCA Boeing Yoke, TCA Airbus Sidestick, 2x TCA Airbus Throttle quads, PFC Cirrus Pedals, Coolermaster HAF932 case

Portable Sys3 (P3Dv4/FSX/DCS): i9-9900K @ 5.0 Ghz, Noctua NH-D15, 32GB 3200/16, EVGA RTX3090, Dell S2417DG 24" GSync
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I have been running a 46" 4K UHDTV plus a 30" monitor using a TitanX card and a 7700 CPU.  You gotta be getting awesome FPS with your set up.  I am 40-50 fps now at 10,000 ft approaching KLAS in PMDG 747 - cockpit view.


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Thank for all the info. The point is that if I use a TV instead of the monitor GPU usage goes up to 100% and stay at 100% no matter what. Even if a set my PC to render 1080P 30HZ instead of 4K it still cooks the GPU

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I've noticed when playing certain games (Looking at you, Assasin's Creed Odyssey) that my 1080Ti heats up markedly. If I put my bare foot on the chassis next to the card, it gets uncomfortable after about 30 seconds. These cards, it seems, run hot when maxed out.

If your case doesn't have a good side fan, consider installing one. Mine had a broken one that wasn't needed in my old builds, but I replaced it for this build and the GPU temps dropped by 12 degrees C under load (and the cooler it runs, the faster it runs).

One of the problems with the ATX form factor is that with the longer cards, you're often forced to put the card on the bottom slot in order to clear the RAM or the CPU's heatsink, and that means you have 2 or 3 vidcard fans crammed up against the bottom of the case and losing cooling effectiveness. Even in my very large full-tower case, this is an issue. I suspect my next upgrade might require water cooling just to get around that problem.

As to the 100% even at HD resolutions, who made the card, and are you running their drivers, or the stock nVidia ones?

 

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Using a Gigabyte Aurus that has a fixed water cooling with an external fan. I’m using last drivers updated via the gforce experience app. 

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Some confusion here: once it's GPU, next it's CPU?

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26 minutes ago, matteospacca said:

It is the GPU. CPU is fine running at 45-55%

your card shall run at max 45-50c att 100% gpu load , is the water pump working correct. my 2089 ti with similar colling dont pass 40C 100% load.

have one 1080TI with NZXT G12 and NZXT 140mm AIO that one maxed out at 45C,

that on 4k samsung

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Temps go up to 70 degrees since GPU is stuck all the time at 100% and the water pump is ok. What I really don't understand is why everything is normal using my 2k Asus monitor (usage is around 40-70%) but using my TV running at the same exact resolution and setting the GPU usage goes up to 100%. Maybe something with the cable? I'm using Display Port on monitor and HDMI on my TV,

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3 minutes ago, matteospacca said:

Temps go up to 70 degrees since GPU is stuck all the time at 100% and the water pump is ok. What I really don't understand is why everything is normal using my 2k Asus monitor (usage is around 40-70%) but using my TV running at the same exact resolution and setting the GPU usage goes up to 100%. Maybe something with the cable? I'm using Display Port on monitor and HDMI on my TV,

70C seems high even with 120 rad for the AIO , , the card shall mange to ru at 100% gpu load you have turbo boost  the card shall clock down little. wath is your clock.

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1 hour ago, Pegaso said:

Some confusion here: once it's GPU, next it's CPU?

Good spot...I was answering the question based on CPU load at 100%.

For the OP: What about dynamic lighting and shadows?  Are you running nVidia inspector?


Bob Scott | President and CEO, AVSIM Inc
ATP Gulfstream II-III-IV-V

System1 (P3Dv5/v4): i9-13900KS @ 6.0GHz, water 2x360mm, ASUS Z790 Hero, 32GB GSkill 7800MHz CAS36, ASUS RTX4090
Samsung 55" JS8500 4K TV@30Hz,
3x 2TB WD SN850X 1x 4TB Crucial P3 M.2 NVME SSD, EVGA 1600T2 PSU, 1.2Gbps internet
Fiber link to Yamaha RX-V467 Home Theater Receiver, Polk/Klipsch 6" bookshelf speakers, Polk 12" subwoofer, 12.9" iPad Pro
PFC yoke/throttle quad/pedals with custom Hall sensor retrofit, Thermaltake View 71 case, Stream Deck XL button box

Sys2 (MSFS/XPlane): i9-10900K @ 5.1GHz, 32GB 3600/15, nVidia RTX4090FE, Alienware AW3821DW 38" 21:9 GSync, EVGA 1000P2
Thrustmaster TCA Boeing Yoke, TCA Airbus Sidestick, 2x TCA Airbus Throttle quads, PFC Cirrus Pedals, Coolermaster HAF932 case

Portable Sys3 (P3Dv4/FSX/DCS): i9-9900K @ 5.0 Ghz, Noctua NH-D15, 32GB 3200/16, EVGA RTX3090, Dell S2417DG 24" GSync
Corsair RM850x PSU, TM TCA Officer Pack, Saitek combat pedals, TM Warthog HOTAS, Coolermaster HAF XB case

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