AI Live Traffic Released for FSX and Prepar3D

[Lorby_SI 2,036]

2 minutes ago, _Airbus_Fan_ said:

Would like to help, helps us all what exactly need you have all payware aviators of FSPXAI

wich xlm from the Plane

 

Best

Torsten

Hello Torsten,

I need the file that is created by LorbyLiveTraffic when it scans a "Custom" aircraft library. But that is more a topic for a private conversation or my support forum. I'll send you a message here on AVSIM.

Best regards

[kenz 33]

46 minutes ago, Lorby_SI said:

you don't have to do anything. When using RealTraffic, the app knows from where to where the aircraft is flying when it appears in the live data stream. So it calculates a halfway realistic route and injects the aircraft as ATC controlled AI. The simulator does the rest.

So it gather Arr/dep data, match it with an AI model/livery and inject on the fly the AI flightplan in the sim ? without going through bgl fp files way ? did'nt knew that was technically possible

[Lorby_SI 2,036]

8 minutes ago, kenz said:

So it gather Arr/dep data, match it with an AI model/livery and inject on the fly the AI flightplan in the sim ? without going through bgl fp files way ? did'nt knew that was technically possibleY

Yes, that is what it does, plus calculating a believable route. And injecting real world weather, if you want that.

The method to create AI aircraft at runtime/"on the fly" is rather trivial, the simulators' API has a couple of methods specifically for this. I am pretty sure that the UltimateTraffic line of products uses the very same procedure (but their flight data is precompiled in an internal database instead of using online sources).

Best regards

 

 

Edited May 30, 2019 by Lorby_SI

[kenz 33]

so the base idea is the same as the "AI Live traffic" app, the main difference being you're querying flight data based on own aircraft position and they're querying data based on dep/arr of the user next flight. don't know what are advantages/inconvenient of either method.

(plus weather/route + direct injection instead of bgl compiling)

Edited May 30, 2019 by kenz

[fluffyflops 1,845]

How do they pick up aircraft in black spots? 

What happens at airports with curfews? 

Is it actually live?  We got scammed before with ut live 

 

[Lorby_SI 2,036]

7 minutes ago, kenz said:

so the base idea is the same as the "AI Live traffic" app, the main difference being you're querying flight data based on own aircraft position and they're querying data based on dep and arr for the user next flight. don't know what are advantages/inconvenient of either method.

(plus weather/route + direct injection instead of bgl compiling)

The most obvious difference would be when you are en route yourself.

With BGL based traffic there are no routes to speak of. If you encounter a specific aircraft en route or not is subject to the sims internal calculations, whatever they may be. With real live traffic the aircraft will appear when and where they are in the real world. Even when using the SimAI mode, while the route that the aircraft flies isn't the same, when you enter the region where the aircraft is in the real world, it is created in the exact same position and continues the flight from there. 

Best regards

[F737MAX 5,509]

It looks like people are getting confused by the name of the add-on and the topic drift in this thread.

AIUI, all this new add-on does is look up realtime timetables/schedules and creates a bgl traffic file to replicate it.

No live API feed, no reliance on ADS-B receivers, etc. Just an extremely up-to-date equivalent of your favourite sim-handled bgl traffic add-on.

[ha5mvo 237]

19 minutes ago, F737NG said:

It looks like people are getting confused by the name of the add-on and the topic drift in this thread.

AIUI, all this new add-on does is look up realtime timetables/schedules and creates a bgl traffic file to replicate it.

No live API feed, no reliance on ADS-B receivers, etc. Just an extremely up-to-date equivalent of your favourite sim-handled bgl traffic add-on.

If that is the case, then one might find themselves pretty lonely enroute, If the generated bgl account for only dep/arr traffic.

[Delta330 1]

AI Live Traffic is great where LorbyLiveTraffic fails. As Realtraffic uses ADSB data, many regional aircraft (crj, atr, etc) and older planes such as 767, md, etc are not shown in the skies. Besides, as soon as pilot turn off their transponders the aircraft disappear from the scenery.

AI Live Traffic make airports more crowded than Lorby's with real flights. Downside is that not real gates and taxi routes are used, it will depend on your airport afcad.

AI Live Traffic reads real flight schedules so it shows more aircraft than Lorby's. However, being BGL compiled traffic, real routes are not populated.

I found AILT very useful in medium and small regional airports where Lorby's show no aircraft at all.

[fluffyflops 1,845]

1 hour ago, F737NG said:

It looks like people are getting confused by the name of the add-on and the topic drift in this thread.

AIUI, all this new add-on does is look up realtime timetables/schedules and creates a bgl traffic file to replicate it

No live API feed, no reliance on ADS-B receivers, etc. Just an extremely up-to-date equivalent of your favourite sim-handled bgl traffic add-on.

How does it pull data please. 

How does it know if the VS29 today LGW to BGI for example is a 330 or 747? 

Like I said we got conned before THREE Times with Ultimate traffic 

[Lorby_SI 2,036]

8 minutes ago, Delta330 said:

Besides, as soon as pilot turn off their transponders the aircraft disappear from the scenery.

That part is not longer true, see posts above.

Concur with the rest, that's how it is.
Most of the ADS-B data is provided by aviation enthusiasts around the world who are running their receivers connected to their PCs at home, and thus provide the data base for all those air traffic websites out there. Even with the well known sites like FR24 you will notice oddities when the coverage fails (especially at night, when people turn off their computers :o) ). 

Best regards

[fluffyflops 1,845]

Just now, Lorby_SI said:

That part is not longer true, see posts above.

Concur with the rest, that's how it is.
Most of the ADS-B data is provided by aviation enthusiasts around the world who are running their receivers connected to their PCs at home, and thus provide the data base for all those air traffic websites out there. Even with the well known sites like FR24 you will notice oddities when the coverage fails (especially at night, when people turn off their computers 🐵 ). 

Best regards

We know all about that.  At work our a/c regularly drop off fr24 which is why we use sita tracking too and get pos reps from crews 

 

[F737MAX 5,509]

1 hour ago, ha5mvo said:

If that is the case, then one might find themselves pretty lonely enroute, If the generated bgl account for only dep/arr traffic.

Depends on the planned route distance obviously. A domestic flight in a European country of 200nm will see a lot of traffic as it will all be concentrated, a trans-oceanic one of 5000nm, hardly any.
 

27 minutes ago, tooting said:

How does it pull data please. 

How does it know if the VS29 today LGW to BGI for example is a 330 or 747? 

Like I said we got conned before THREE Times with Ultimate traffic 

I don't know the exact method, but it cannot be too difficult for them to access a similar data feed as https://uk.flightaware.com/live/airport/EGKK

Creating a departure airport bgl traffic file and an arrival bgl traffic file will give you a selection of flights displaying as true to life as possible, i.e. realistic, but not look out of your window and see it overhead.

If you want 'as-you-see-it-right-now-in-the-world-live', Nico's (Kiek's) PSXseeconTraffic or Oliver's Lorby Live Traffic are the very best options.

Edited May 30, 2019 by F737NG

[Michael Moe 493]

So using this software and I have installed MT6 and typically using 15% traffic slider inside P3D and 40% inside FSUIPC Will give me 2019 real time AI in my airports using MT6? ? Is this correct understand? 

PLUG and Play and set and forget? 

Thanks Michael Moe 

[ha5mvo 237]

42 minutes ago, F737NG said:

Depends on the planned route distance obviously. A domestic flight in a European country of 200nm will see a lot of traffic as it will all be concentrated, a trans-oceanic one of 5000nm, hardly any.

I Don't understand then. If you're say on a route from paris to Oslo, will it pick up flights crossing your route between Germany and the UK, or are you going to see congestion only at a certain radius around the designated airports? How does the program pick up an aircraft crossing your route if its oblivious to global traffic and is generating traffic from TWO airports only??

Edited May 30, 2019 by ha5mvo