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Hi chaps,

I've watched the trailer quite a few times now - what a great show! - and taken some screencaps for further asessmnent.

It seems that there's a very good range of default aircraft. 

Here's the aircraft that I think we can see, based on my observations and the comments of others elsewhere on the web:

Diamond DA-62 (is that shot in the hangar in-game??).

Airbus A320 Neo - in cockpit shots, and pushback at LAX, takeoff and landing. I'm thinking all the other twin-engine jets parked at LAX are also A320s? It seems that MSFS really likes this plane, or they know that we want a jet!

TBM 930 - beautiful shot from the front, that's the 2nd shot that I'm not 100% sure is standard in-game footage.There's also some in-flight-shots.

Mudry CAP 10 stunt aircraft.

Super Cub.

Icon A5 - looking out the right window at the city. (ugh, memories of the Wedding Boat mission. 😞)

There's also some other GA aircraft. There's a Robin DR400, and I've seen opinions that the others are a Cessna Grand Caravan, a Beechcraft Bonanza and a C172. 

 

To my mind, this is a pretty strong launch line-up of aircraft, with a good-looking jet and some very useful GA options. The trailer is missing military aircraft of any sort, and there's no definite evidence of Boeings here, which is odd for MSFS.

What do you think of the selection? Have they learnt from the mistakes of Flight? What other aircraft types should we be suggesting during the alpha/beta period?

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It's good but it needs a helicopter too. hopefully with decent flight dynamics and not what FSX/P3D offers.

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We got a rotary wing aircraft for Aerofly FS2 eventually...hopefully it won't take MIcrosoft that long!

Aerofly is probably not a bad example of the sort of aircraft one might expect here. Well-modelled planes without full systems (thought the Aerofly planes have more depth than most realize). I'm hoping the A320 Neo's MCDU has moderate functionality, and that the Garmin G1000 here is decently implemented.

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DIAMOND DA-62

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CESSNA C208 GRAND CARAVAN

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MURDY CAP 10

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PIPER SUPER CUB

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ICON A5

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AIRBUS A320 NEO (Lots of them!)

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TBM 930

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ROBIN DR400

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Your images require Wordpress login to view, Simmerhead

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5 minutes ago, Sethos1988 said:

Your images require Wordpress login to view, Simmerhead

Sorry. Solved now.

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Rotary wing is what's missing, but low-level flight also exposes all the little cracks and flaws in an ortho-based scenery approach. So that may be a later addition. 

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By the way... all the planes have the registration AS-MGS on the tail.

AS is Aerosoft ?

MGS is Microsoft Game Studios?

Any thoughts?

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4 minutes ago, Heimi said:

By the way... all the planes have the registration AS-MGS on the tail.

AS is Aerosoft ?

MGS is Microsoft Game Studios?

Any thoughts?

It's got to be a secret message of some sort. Maybe AS stands for ACES... 

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Very excited there's a Robin DR400, been clamouring after a good one in P3Dv4 for ages as it's a reasonably quick single piston prop with excellent visibility for sight seeing! Hopefully it's a late model 180 variant they've modelled, although the radios suggest it's an older one in need of a GPS retrofit!

For those unfamiliar with the DR.400 it has a large sliding canopy (some are a full bubble), docile handling thanks to wing dihedral but still remains responsive with stick controls and being quiet and comfortable thanks to its wooden frame. They are very popular GA birds in Europe.

Given the speculated Aerosoft involvement it's likely this an updated version of their Robin DR400 X product, that would be nice because the Aerosoft has much better systems than the Lionheart, but the Lionheart looked a lot better. And I could never bring myself to compromise on either aspect nor get the merged satisfactory so ended up not flying either and flying the TB-20 instead.

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It's a good selection of aeroplanes on show but of course it might not be all of what is planned or even already included. With regard to the A320 being prominent in the video, there is of course the possibility that there is a 737 in the mix too, but maybe the 737 was deemed a bit sensitive at the moment, what with the type currently being grounded. Who knows? Some of it will be down to licensing too of course in these litigious days. I guess we'll just have to wait and see.

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Given Microsoft licenced ESP to Lockheed Martin, arch rival of Boeing, I wouldn't be surprised if that's one reason they haven't been able to conclude a licencing agreement with Boeing for the new MSFS (aside from cost) - although this is just a hypothesis based on the complete lack of Boeing content shown thus far.

LM was forced to pull all Beechcraft from P3D after Textron bought it (the same people who own Cessna, who are also missing in P3D).

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Yup. All that brand stuff gets annoying but it is unfortunately the world we live in. Boeing 717 and McDonnell-Douglas DC-3? Yeah right! We all know their real names. 🤣

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All this legal mumbo-jumbo is probably the reason why we are seeing exotic birds like Icon, TBM, Diamond, Robin and Murdy... 

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I wouldn't call Robin exotic! Maybe if you live State side perhaps? Cessna and Diamond are fairly big names too. TBM is also very popular.

Maule, Murdy and Ikon are a bit more obscure

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2 hours ago, Heimi said:

By the way... all the planes have the registration AS-MGS on the tail.

AS is Aerosoft ?

MGS is Microsoft Game Studios?

Any thoughts?


Mathijs Kok of Aerosoft said the following on their forums few minutes ago:

"We have absolutely nothing to comment or say about this. Sorry."

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1 hour ago, marcus11 said:

 

Mathijs Kok of Aerosoft said the following on their forums few minutes ago:

"We have absolutely nothing to comment or say about this. Sorry."

I saw it and made me think he's under NDA...

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All this legal mumbo-jumbo is probably the reason why we are seeing exotic birds like Icon, TBM, Diamond, Robin and Murdy...

Don't forget the flamingos! :wink:

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16 minutes ago, ca_metal said:

I saw it and made me think he's under NDA...

Or alternatively just exactly what he meant to say, they knew nothing about it and therefore there is nothing to say..😉.

S.

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I somewhat suspect it's going to be another MS Flight fiasco. A game for casual simmers rather than most of us. I'd like to be proved wrong, but once bitten...

The other problem is, most of us are now heavily invested in P3D - I wonder what the uptake would be even if it is a hard-core sim..? Perhaps only if its easy to port/modify existing add-ons to be compatible..

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47 minutes ago, severniae said:

The other problem is, most of us are now heavily invested in P3D - I wonder what the uptake would be even if it is a hard-core sim..? Perhaps only if its easy to port/modify existing add-ons to be compatible..

Those worried about that can stay in P3D, where they are supposely happy since they invested so much in it and not drag down development of other games because they are not ready to play more than a sim and invest money on other addons 😛

That's how i think about it at least. Retro-compatibility has always been a bad thing for the development of the platforms and is more of a drag than anything. I can't use my favourite plane in a platform? patience, i'll buy something else for it and enjoy it too. Or stick to the platform which has what i want to play with.

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23 minutes ago, simmerhead said:

Anyone cracked this aircraft yet?

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Bonanza A36 or B36 maybe.

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