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REX SkyForce, HiFi Active Sky and REX Environment Force Question

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Folks,

I have Active Sky and REX SkyForce currently, and thinking about adding Environment Force as well. Is there currently a decent tutorial to make all these add-ons work well together? I'm concerned about getting the WX Radar to work on PMDG/FS-Labs and no clue how to set all that up, plus the visuals, shaders, etc... Do I need PTA as well?

Grateful for any advice on how to config all this!

-Bill

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I use REX SF3D, Environment Force and ASP4 with no problems. Just set EF to auto and make sure the REX weather engine is off. Start EF and ASP4 and you are good to go, EF controls SF3D so no need to start that as well. Happy flying.

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I use Tomatoshade with the RD profile (easy to use and IMHO, the best)

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14 minutes ago, SierraHotel said:

I use REX SF3D, Environment Force and ASP4 with no problems. Just set EF to auto and make sure the REX weather engine is off. Start EF and ASP4 and you are good to go, EF controls SF3D so no need to start that as well. Happy flying.

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I use Tomatoshade with the RD profile (easy to use and IMHO, the best)

Quick question: I thought you would not have needed TS now with ES? Are ES/TS not doing the same thing by changing shaders?

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It does, I use TS for the reflections. Watch a couple of my streams to see it in action.

 

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5 minutes ago, SierraHotel said:

It does, I use TS for the reflections. Watch a couple of my streams to see it in action.

 

OK so ES does not do reflections I assume.

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3 hours ago, ShezA said:

OK so ES does not do reflections I assume.

No, ES will change colour tone of sky, clouds etc on the fly regardless of what shader tool you use. But if you want reflections use Tomatoshade.

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12 hours ago, busdriver said:

Folks,

I have Active Sky and REX SkyForce currently, and thinking about adding Environment Force as well. Is there currently a decent tutorial to make all these add-ons work well together? I'm concerned about getting the WX Radar to work on PMDG/FS-Labs and no clue how to set all that up, plus the visuals, shaders, etc... Do I need PTA as well?

Grateful for any advice on how to config all this!

-Bill

Bill,

I have no idea why you would want to use WX Radar to work with PMDG/FSL as both use ASP4 as there WX radar. Cannot help you there.

I am beta testing EF and I would suggest all you need is ASP4 SF and EF in AUTO mode. 

Note in SF and EF you need to make sure texture res is set to DTX 512. Your good to go.

What ES is people are talking about I have no idea what that is.

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  Hello,

                           I've read many post, I seem to understand some of it. So,  Right now I don't have a weather engine.  I'm considering wether or not to get a weather tool/app.

            But surely looking at REX products. Since I don't have any weather tools what  is the best way to go if I decide to get REX products??  So, If I buy REX SkyForce do

            I also need REX Enviormental ?? or what other tools do I need ?? I also want it to be easy not too complicated......Thanx for help/suggestions.....

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1 hour ago, Whisper202 said:

 

  Hello,

                           I've read many post, I seem to understand some of it. So,  Right now I don't have a weather engine.  I'm considering wether or not to get a weather tool/app.

            But surely looking at REX products. Since I don't have any weather tools what  is the best way to go if I decide to get REX products??  So, If I buy REX SkyForce do

            I also need REX Enviormental ?? or what other tools do I need ?? I also want it to be easy not too complicated......Thanx for help/suggestions.....

The consensus is the best weather App Is HiFI ASP4.

REX Sky force does have a weather engine but it's not as good is the bottom line. You do not need to buy REX EF, you can just use ASP4 and SF for clouds and structures.

REX EF is a new product that imo replacers the need for shader app's like PTA/TS etc. It also works with SF very well. You don't even need to open SF when you have EF.

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39 minutes ago, B777ER said:

Just know that you cannot fully make use of SF with ASP4. See last few posts in this thread:  https://www.realenvironmentxtreme.com/forums/index.php?/topic/52098-flat-clouds/

I just finish a flight and most of the clouds were flat but unusual. This just started with 0514 update. Anyone else getting flat clouds with SkyForce? This not good I was very happy with ASP4 an SF!

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I feel somebody has been dishonest here. I took the decision to buy EF after reading a post from Rex that it was 100% compatible with AS and with SF, and that we can continue using all of them without any problem.

Now they are saying AS doesn’t completely work with their SDK, and we should use EF with SF and their weather engine on.

This was not supposed to be like that at the beginning, the first app I run before committing a flight is AS, I use it for flight planning purposes, also FSLabs uses AS for the wind entries, even PMDG long haul flights I use AS.

I don’t want to stop using AS, 60 bucks will be hangared until EF and SF work together with AS.

 

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26 minutes ago, ttbq1 said:

Now they are saying AS doesn’t completely work with their SDK, and we should use EF with SF and their weather engine on.

Did REX make that statement? 

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44 minutes ago, reecemj said:

I just finish a flight and most of the clouds were flat but unusual. This just started with 0514 update. Anyone else getting flat clouds with SkyForce? This not good I was very happy with ASP4 an SF!

Did some testing I still get the nice clouds from SF. So that good for me. But SF and ASP4 as never been 100% compatible. There are some features only Rex weather engine can produce. Like the 3d sync. 

 

 

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3 minutes ago, skysurfer said:

Did REX make that statement? 

Click on link above your post and read please.😊

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5 hours ago, ttbq1 said:

I feel somebody has been dishonest here. I took the decision to buy EF after reading a post from Rex that it was 100% compatible with AS and with SF, and that we can continue using all of them without any problem.

Now they are saying AS doesn’t completely work with their SDK, and we should use EF with SF and their weather engine on.

This was not supposed to be like that at the beginning, the first app I run before committing a flight is AS, I use it for flight planning purposes, also FSLabs uses AS for the wind entries, even PMDG long haul flights I use AS.

I don’t want to stop using AS, 60 bucks will be hangared until EF and SF work together with AS.

 

EF works with AS4.

If any issues post in REX forums 

Thanks

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1 hour ago, fs1 said:

EF works with AS4.

It appears that SF does not. Not fully anyway.

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4 hours ago, ZKOKQ said:

It appears that SF does not. Not fully anyway.

It works. Without issues. I am beta testing the new builds and enjoy using ef sf and as together. Sf weather off, as as wearher engine. Regards Marcus

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1 hour ago, mpo910 said:

t works. Without issues. I am beta testing the new builds and enjoy using ef sf and as together. Sf weather off, as as wearher engine. Regards Marcus

Forgive my ignorance but how could you possibly tell if ASP4 and SF3D work in perfect harmony? Or how would you know if all the features are used that are present in SF3D?

IMHO (briefly speaking) you only set up a flight and look if you get some clouds and if there's something weird going on (by weird I mean flat clouds, itteration of same textures, coloring, etc.)... You have no clue if the displayed clouds are from one single theme or a combination of all the themes.

If I'm wrong then please forgive me AND correct me! If you know how to test if SF3D "dances the tango" with ASP4, I'm sure the community would appreciate that info.

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I don't use SF weather engine but ASP4+EF and have the rainshafts, the CB's up to 75000ft, the nice clouds and all the other bells and whistles.

Would be interesting from where this BS comes about AS not working with SF ...

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3 hours ago, JoeFackel said:

I don't use SF weather engine but ASP4+EF and have the rainshafts, the CB's up to 75000ft, the nice clouds and all the other bells and whistles.

Would be interesting from where this BS comes about AS not working with SF ...

Joe, I think the confusion stems from this quote from Reed on the Rex forums.

I think under certain circumstances, you will get flat clouds under certain conditions.

Anyway, here is a snippet of what was posted:

" You can use Active Sky with Sky Force with no problem they are compatible, but you will not get the full benefits of Sky Force if not using the Sky Force weather engine only. "

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And why are we only been told this now ? The product has been out quite some time.

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27 minutes ago, JoeFackel said:

Would be interesting from where this BS comes about AS not working with SF ...

It comes from REX themselves (look at the first link from this thread towards their forum).

As a matter of fact, I also currently run ASP4 and SF3D but did not seem to have flat clouds (but this also does not mean that the entire power of SF3D is used ;) )

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