How is iFly Jets - The 737NG compared to PMDG 737NGX ?

[Chock 17,769]

59 minutes ago, rjfry said:

PMDG will release the new 737 when finished rumour has it they are still working on max which has delayed it, as they are trying get the realistic affect of nose down after take off 😁. 

On the plus side, their new 737 MAX simulation does run at 300 FPS in P3D V4.5 with all the graphics sliders over to the right, but this is because all it simulates at the moment is being parked over on a remote stand next to all the others in the fleet with the engine covers on, although performance reportedly drops FPS-wise when you simulate turning the engines over once every two days to clear out the birds nests and rolling it forward a couple of feet to prevent the tires getting a flat spot (sadly, this really is what is occurring with the TUI ones at EGCC where I work). 🤣

More seriously, the iFly is great (and yes, I do have both that and the PMDG ones too). About the only thing which truly separates the PMDG one from the iFly one, is the fact that the PMDG has a collimated HGS, if you can live with that, then the iFly is the winner in my opinion purely from a value for money standpoint since as I say, there is little else to separate them.

Edited June 13, 2019 by Chock

[jfri 42]

4 hours ago, GEKtheReaper said:

Look in my signature: I also fly with the GTX 970....

How well does it work in P3D 4 with that system which is very similar to mine. Do you use ORBX scenery ?

[GEKtheReaper 364]

41 minutes ago, jfri said:

How well does it work in P3D 4 with that system which is very similar to mine. Do you use ORBX scenery ?

LOWI and trees from ORBX only. Everything else is in my sig).

The GPU loads ~60%, my CPU seems way to slow to feed it....

Before giong for a new GPU consider the best CPU with the highest single core performance you can get.

[Dirk98 354]

Sorry, I can't stand their windshield geometry even if it had been chosen because of the collimated HGS. Distorted.

Now that the other product has a HiRes VC it's a winner for me. And you know who I'm talking about ))

Thanks.

Edited June 13, 2019 by Dirk98

[Jude Bradley 659]

There's actually 30% off right now on this product.

 

[dave2013 1,123]

I have the PMDG 737s but not the Ifly.  However, I've done a lot of research on the Ifly 737 and decided that it is a great aircraft on par with PMDG's products, and I will absolutely purchase it instead of PMDG's once I upgrade to P3Dv4.

I will never purchase anything from PMDG again if I can help it.  They engaged in a shameful money grab by forcing owners of their FSX planes to pay full price for a 64-bit upgrade which is a practice that I will not tolerate.

Dave

Edited June 13, 2019 by dave2013

[Kevin_28 164]

If I was in your position and I need a 737 ng now, but I am willing to shell out more money later if need be, I'd probably take advantage of the sale and go with the iFly. When PMDG releases their updated 737, I would evaluate it at that time. If I could wait and don't want to pay more than I have to, then I would consider waiting for the update to the PMDG.

Edited June 13, 2019 by Kevin_28

[jfri 42]

4 hours ago, Kevin_28 said:

If I was in your position and I need a 737 ng now, but I am willing to shell out more money later if need be, I'd probably take advantage of the sale and go with the iFly. When PMDG releases their updated 737, I would evaluate it at that time. If I could wait and don't want to pay more than I have to, then I would consider waiting for the update to the PMDG.

Well I have a 737 now (the PMDG737 FSX) and some other planes (A2A C182 B377 Concorde X) I can only fly in FSX SE. But I don't have P3D 4 now. Of course if I should buy the iFly it would be stupid not to do it while there is a 30% discount.

[Shomron 251]

Could anyone please post a short video or at least link to one showing the visuals of the VC?

There are only like 2 on YT and it's either the trailer for the HD version or one not really showing off the HD textures.

 

Thanks!

[Pe11e 812]

During the testing of Cockpit Sound Immersion soundpack for iFly 737NG (just released), I can now surely say what are the differences between the two:

iFly:
- More FPS friendly, at least on my system. 60fps locked, even on approach. (with the NGX fps varies between 40 and 50 on approach).
- Better flight physics. Take this with a grain of salt, but I like iFly physics more. It's more smooth, more believable, generally aileron/elevator inputs are more smooth (more analogue).
- More precise VC modelling (especially windshield). VC is different from PMDG on few spots, but nothing significant. 
- movable pilot seats

PMDG:
- Every click/lever/button has its own sound (also covered in Cockpit Sound Immersion). iFly model doesn't.
- Better VC texturing
- All is integrated in the FMC (from various options to fuel&weight management)
- you can "hide" the yoke (the yoke will be lowered below the displays)

That is all I can think of at the moment. 😏

[Holdit 551]

What is the current special offer on the iFly? I can't see any reference to it on iFly's website or on Flight1.

UPDATE: Never mind, found it. 

Edited June 14, 2019 by Holdit

[OzWhitey 3,353]

On 6/13/2019 at 7:44 AM, Mace said:

Good point!  And the 767, if I may add...

Nah, Level D are releasing one of those soon (ish...)

 

[Bob Scott 7,715]

Here are a few of the things I remember from back in the cobweb-infested reaches of my memory:

Both had good FDE and flight handling.  The PMDG's ground handling was a lot smoother, and performance (fuel burn, t/o and ldg distance etc) was closer to the actual numbers.

The iFly PFD/ND gauge refresh rates were restricted to no higher than the sim engine gauge refresh rate (18 fps) where the PMDG gauges supported higher (e.g. 30fps) refresh rates, making them look smoother.

The PMDG automation handled transitions--level offs, lead points for turns, and approaches much more smoothly.  The iFly tended to overshoot when approaching a level-off or turn at a higher rate/angle.

The iFly had the BBJ versions modelled, complete with the extended range fuel tanks, where the PMDG did not (and required an add-on purchase to have the entire -600 through -900 lineup).

The user interface for the PMDG birds was well-refined and consistent with the interfaces to their 747 and 777 panels.  CDU menu-based control of doors, AGE equipment, pushback etc is well thought-out and easy to use.  Also the ability to easily enter fuel and payload in the sim, either by entering pax numbers by class or just by entering the ZFW data in the CDU is much easier to use than fiddling with the separate external loader included with the iFly.  The iFly required addition of a third-party gauge in a popup window to control doors, which proved to be a really clunky solution.

The iFly cockpit geometry, especially w/r/t window size/shape was considerably closer to the real thing than the PMDG, which has oversized squarish windows, ostensibly to support their collimated HUD.

I gravitated to the PMDG 737NG and never really looked back.  The iFly would answer the mail for a 737 if not for the presence of the PMDG birds...for those than can't/won't pay the going rate for the PMDG 737, it's a perfectly viable alternative.

I echo the sentiments already expressed that it's a shame to have iFly and PMDG both doing the same planes while the 767, MD-10/11, and A300 remain untouched.

Regards

[LH340fan 54]

18 hours ago, w6kd said:

Here are a few of the things I remember from back in the cobweb-infested reaches of my memory:

Both had good FDE and flight handling.  The PMDG's ground handling was a lot smoother, and performance (fuel burn, t/o and ldg distance etc) was closer to the actual numbers.

The iFly PFD/ND gauge refresh rates were restricted to no higher than the sim engine gauge refresh rate (18 fps) where the PMDG gauges supported higher (e.g. 30fps) refresh rates, making them look smoother.

The PMDG automation handled transitions--level offs, lead points for turns, and approaches much more smoothly.  The iFly tended to overshoot when approaching a level-off or turn at a higher rate/angle.

The iFly had the BBJ versions modelled, complete with the extended range fuel tanks, where the PMDG did not (and required an add-on purchase to have the entire -600 through -900 lineup).

The user interface for the PMDG birds was well-refined and consistent with the interfaces to their 747 and 777 panels.  CDU menu-based control of doors, AGE equipment, pushback etc is well thought-out and easy to use.  Also the ability to easily enter fuel and payload in the sim, either by entering pax numbers by class or just by entering the ZFW data in the CDU is much easier to use than fiddling with the separate external loader included with the iFly.  The iFly required addition of a third-party gauge in a popup window to control doors, which proved to be a really clunky solution.

The iFly cockpit geometry, especially w/r/t window size/shape was considerably closer to the real thing than the PMDG, which has oversized squarish windows, ostensibly to support their collimated HUD.

I gravitated to the PMDG 737NG and never really looked back.  The iFly would answer the mail for a 737 if not for the presence of the PMDG birds...for those than can't/won't pay the going rate for the PMDG 737, it's a perfectly viable alternative.

I echo the sentiments already expressed that it's a shame to have iFly and PMDG both doing the same planes while the 767, MD-10/11, and A300 remain untouched.

Regards

Have to agree on the a3XX . actually since FS9 nobody really did any A310 or A300 from a proper level. It's a shame, as those are still being flown to this day by cargo operators (infact all the big names except atlas air operate it)

I don't know if this is due to some obscure decision or if it's just a lack of something... Nontherless it's still a quirky and particular mid -range plane.

 

About the OP i don't own any Ifly but from what I've seen the textures are more HD on the 737, and the geometry of their VC seems more accurate. If they add trueglass or something soon it'll be instant purchase, considering it's at least 20 usd cheaper.

Plus don't get me wrong but i think they also offer the 737-900er variant.

And it seems like ifly has a more open minded attitude. I don't want this topic to turn into an argument but this is my opinion, specially after reading forum posts and official comments.

[mpw8679 428]

Having owned both the PMDG is easily superior.  The iFly is basically a FS9 aircraft and it shows its age.  I do appreciate the correct VC dimensions though.  The HD texture pack does not do much to improve its dated VC.  But then again the iFly is a much better value if you don’t mind dated textures, sounds, and lighting.  And PMDG’s P3D pricing policy is absolutely absurd.  I would wait for the NGX v3.  There are plenty of other great aircraft to fly while you wait.