How about multi monitor support in full screen?

[moggel 0]

Currently, us dual monitor "flyers" pretty much HAVE to run the sim in windowed mode if we want to use the second monitor for non-sim stuff (web browser, charts etc). Would it be possible to have the sim run in full screen on one monitor while the other is in windowed mode? I seem to recall fs2002 did that but it was a long time ago and I might remember it wrong.

[Guest tdragger]

<Not really, at least without a lot of work that would likely be very buggy. Making DirectX and Windows place nice together is very, very difficult. Ever wonder why so few games do windowed mode and/or multi-mon?

[Guest wingnut2]

Ok, but if possible can we use FS in full screen mode and use Windows on a second monitor without it minimising?Also (and this is more important!), can we keep sound when switching from FS to Windows? thanx.John.

[Guest tdragger]

Wash, rinse, repeat.

[Guest wingnut2]

> Wash, rinse, repeat. I am unsure what this means? but I know those things are easily doable ;)

[Guest tdragger]

<>Well, then you know than the esteemed Mr. Lacey, who was unable to get this to work before he left. If you know how, his position is still open. ;)

[Guest wingnut2]

hehe to be honest I do Java and have no idea how to program it :-lol

[n4gix 4,947]

>hehe to be honest I do Java and have no idea how to program>it :-lol Well, why are you embarrasing yourself then by making silly statements? ;)

[Guest wingnut2]

Theres thousands of Windows app's that play sound in the background. It can't be rocket science ;)

[moggel 0]

>Ok, but if possible can we use FS in full screen mode and use>Windows on a second monitor without it minimising?>>Also (and this is more important!), can we keep sound when>switching from FS to Windows? thanx.>>John.Your question can be interpreted two way:1. Is it possible to run full screen DirectX 3D on one screen and Windows (IDE) on the other and keep sound as you switch focus between FS and some Windows app.2. Is it possible to keep sound while running FS in Windowed mode and you're switching to some other Windows app.The answer to the first question should be 'no' because, as TDragger points out, running full screen DirextX and IDE in parallel, on different monitors, is too difficult. This would mean it's impossible to switch between FS and an IDE app without FS getting minimised.The answer to question 2 would be 'yes' because I do that all the time.

[moggel 0]

><one monitor while the other is in windowed mode?>>>>Not really, at least without a lot of work that would likely>be very buggy. Making DirectX and Windows place nice together>is very, very difficult. Ever wonder why so few games do>windowed mode and/or multi-mon?OK, could you please make the FS Window fully configurable so we can loose the title bar and frame (this would serve the same purpose as full screen as far as I'm concerned)? I know Windows can do this easily so it should only be a matter of supplying the tools to configure. This should be a matter of adding a check box to the 'Display' config page or, even better, have a third Alt+Enter state (less than a days work for you guys). If that's too much, just support another (documented) entry in the fsx.cfg... :-smoochPlease?

[Guest]

No. You can have either a single fullscreen DX application (and remember that multiple screens are treated as a single screen with multiple output devices by Windows and DirectX both) or a number of windowed applications.I don't think you can even have multiple windowed DirectX applications running at the same time (at least I've never seen it) if you'd want that.

[Guest wingnut2]

Genius! Simply adding the code to remove the title bar in windowed mode would do it :)With everything changing in Vista/DX10 I wonder if these kinds of issues will be easily solved? Maybe in one line of code :(

[n4gix 4,947]

>Genius! Simply adding the code to remove the title bar in>windowed mode would do it :)>>With everything changing in Vista/DX10 I wonder if these kinds>of issues will be easily solved? Maybe in one line of code :(Well, by having the bottom Windows menu bar "auto hide," and switching off the FS9 menu bar, the only thing remaining on my main monitor is a single, narrow Window's "title bar" at the top of the screen.I find that acceptable, and can happily undock and move stuff to any of six additional monitors. ;)

[Guest tdragger]

>Genius! Simply adding the code to remove the title bar in>windowed mode would do it :)>>With everything changing in Vista/DX10 I wonder if these kinds>of issues will be easily solved? Maybe in one line of code :(You don't really believe that do you? Feel free to continue brainstorming/speculating but this ain't gonna happen. We had to make some pretty substantial changes to fix other problems with our windowing system (such as the inability to move popup windows to secondary devices in full screen mode).The fallout is that the new system works differently that it did before and if you want access to non-FS windows while flying you're going to have to run in windowed mode. Period. In fact, it's likely you'll be disappointed by many changes to the new version but it's a classic two-steps-forward, one-step-back result of innovating on an existing platform.That said, I think you will really like some of the new functionality. Plus, you did give me inspiration for a new blog post : http://blogs.msdn.com/tdragger/archive/200.../11/530201.aspx.