July 24, 20196 yr 3 minutes ago, Amrick615 said: I know there are those who would rather build a PC, but I don’t feel confident in doing so. If I build a PC, I would at least want someone reputable to do so. Any suggestions on that as well? I’ve heard people say Fryz electronics is good with that. Jetline Systems Bert
July 25, 20196 yr If you are serious about a computer for flightsim you really should at least contact Jetline. They know computers and sims. And they are a great bunch of guys who would love to talk to you. I talked to them, bought my system from them almost three years ago. I have had great support ever since. In my book it is not a simulator without Jetline.They just make it all work. Tell them what you want and they will get you there. They do it all. Jesse Jesse Cochran"... eyes ever turned skyward" P3D v5.3 Professional, Windows 10 Professional, Jetline GTX, Gigabyte Aorus X299 Gaming 7 mobo, i7 7740X @ 4.9 GHz, Corsair H115i Liquid Cooling, 32Gb SDRAM @ 3200MHz, Nvidia GeForce GTX1080Ti @ 11 GB ORBX Global + NALC, ASP3D, ASCA, ENVTEX, TrackIR, Virtual-Fly Yoko Yoke, TQ6+, Ruddo+ Rudder Pedals
July 25, 20196 yr 17 hours ago, mpw8679 said: I heavily disagree. So you don't see that the gain you get from one of the 20XX cards over the 1660TI is disproportional to the price increase? Especially if you don't intend to use it at 4K?
July 25, 20196 yr It is not necessary to spend a fortune to enjoy a study level simulation pc, I believe that with a 6-core processor with enough mononuclear power, for example an intel i5-9600K, 16Gb DDR4-2666, a GTX1660Ti (FHD / 60 FPS / 2048) and two SSDs, one for the operating system and one for the simulator is sufficient.This equipment would be for P3D, but if it were for FS9 / FSX we could have a good study level pc with less equipment, for example:i5-9600k, 8Gb DDR4 2666, GTX1660 6gb (FHD / 60 FPS / 1024) and two SSDs.And in both cases it is not necessary to use high settings, with medium-high settings is more than enough.regards
July 25, 20196 yr if you are spending bucks on a nice system why would you ever want to buy the aerosoft 32X and not the FSL ?? spend a bit more, do an extra overtime shift , get the fsl not this half baked aerosoft airbus Edited July 25, 20196 yr by fluffyflops
July 25, 20196 yr Author I already have the aerosoft Airbus, that’s why I would just stick to that for now. (The addons I mentioned are the ones I already have, not including Active Sky and REX TD) I’m going to lock my budget to be no greater than $1500. I still have yet to contact jetline for advice on this. How do you all feel about the RTX 2060? It seems like it’s a little bit more in my price range for the RTX’s
July 25, 20196 yr I strongly recommend that you learn to build your own system. It's scary for most people the first time they do it, but once they discover that it's really not all that hard, they never look back. That $1500 could get you an almost top-end flight sim PC, or it could get you a middle-of-the-road PC from a prebuilt. And it won't even get you in the door at Jetline. There are only two aspects of building your own PC that are mildly challenging - getting the heatsink seated properly, and if you're over 40, seeing the writing on those stupid little motherboard front panel connectors, because the writing is small and us oldsters' eyes suck. The rest is just tab-A into slot-A, and all the connectors are shaped so that you cannot plug them into the wrong place. I would also see if I could find a 1080Ti floating around somewhere. They're a lot cheaper than the 2k series, and they perform just as well in non-raytracing situations (and p3d does not employ raytracing). Ryzen 7 7800X3D/B650 X AX | 5090 | 32gig | Win10 | Pimax Crystal Light
July 25, 20196 yr 9 hours ago, Farlis said: So you don't see that the gain you get from one of the 20XX cards over the 1660TI is disproportional to the price increase? Especially if you don't intend to use it at 4K? Computer hardware pricing is always disproportional. Point is if you want high AA, dynamic lighting, shadows, and flying in heavy cloud cover you will need much more then a 1660ti. The HD vs 4K argument is nonsense. Matt Wilson
July 25, 20196 yr When one "lock's a budget to $1500" or any low figure, it makes me wonder, why they ask anybody else's opinion. That $1500 will put them in the same place as so many others who post here saying: "I just built/(bought a cheap) brand new PC and:" I'm getting blue screens P3D does not start My PC is overheating My FPS are under 10 bla bla bla Its called suffering consequences.👨🎓😂
July 25, 20196 yr 2 hours ago, Amrick615 said: I want at least 30 FPS with considerably high settings. I’m going to lock my budget to be no greater than $1500. I don't think that's going to happen, that's like wanting to get a suite at the Four Seasons for $30/night. For that budget your looking at medium settings with no add-ons. Even P3D recommends 8 GB 1080 Ti which right there is half your budget, and a i7/i9 at 3.5 GHz + even then 4Ghz is probably the minimum now...... The advantage of building your own is that you can scale you builds, think of it as an investment and with other sims about to hit the market a good investment is better, if not you'll be disappointed. Just depends at what level you want to sim. Ryzen 5 5600X - Noctua U12A, 32Gb Vengence, Sapphire Pulse 5700xt, WD Black SN750 NVMe SSD
July 25, 20196 yr 2 hours ago, eslader said: I strongly recommend that you learn to build your own system. It's scary for most people the first time they do it, but once they discover that it's really not all that hard, they never look back. That $1500 could get you an almost top-end flight sim PC, or it could get you a middle-of-the-road PC from a prebuilt. And it won't even get you in the door at Jetline. There are only two aspects of building your own PC that are mildly challenging - getting the heatsink seated properly, and if you're over 40, seeing the writing on those stupid little motherboard front panel connectors, because the writing is small and us oldsters' eyes suck. The rest is just tab-A into slot-A, and all the connectors are shaped so that you cannot plug them into the wrong place. I would also see if I could find a 1080Ti floating around somewhere. They're a lot cheaper than the 2k series, and they perform just as well in non-raytracing situations (and p3d does not employ raytracing). Sure building your rig is fairly straight forward. But selecting the components that are compatible and “play nicely together” as well as tuning/over clocking afterwards, to optimise your system, is a whole different ball game. Be prepared to do much homework, or seek support, should you decide to go this route. Cheers Steve Hall
July 25, 20196 yr Author Okay, I’m liking the info. I gather that for $1500 I’m going to have to live with a maximum, but that maximum is better than what I have now. (Nvidia 840m with an older core i7) So far, i see that people like PC-partpicker for finding components that are compatible with each other.
July 25, 20196 yr 1 hour ago, cowpatz said: But selecting the components that are compatible and “play nicely together” as well as tuning/over clocking afterwards, to optimise your system, is a whole different ball game. Absolutely, but that's what we're here for. I'd be perfectly happy helping OP select parts to get someone else deeper into the sim hobby. They'll just have to wait 'till next week, 'cause I'm off to Oshkosh tomorrow and won't be looking at a computer. 😉 There's also, btw, pcpartpicker.com which has a really good system builder utility on it that will not let you pick incompatible hardware. Ryzen 7 7800X3D/B650 X AX | 5090 | 32gig | Win10 | Pimax Crystal Light
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