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I FINALLY got the new download links to this scenery and downloaded it plus the DHL parking hotfix. I dropped the scenery into the main P3d folder because for some reason the scenery needs to be in the ecosystem folder. I tried putting just the KCVG folder on my scenery drives with my others and I got a CTD after a frozen splash screen.

It's working finally.This thing has been a  nightmare! I've been messing around with a PAYWARE scenery for a week now and it doesn't look much better than an old FS9 scenery. Definitly not worth the money or the hassle.

 

 

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35 minutes ago, sivart2000 said:

.What is the solution to missing jetways, anyone?

Go to the main Skyline CVG folder, right click, select delete. 

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1 minute ago, B777ER said:

Go to the main Skyline CVG folder, right click, select delete. 

Right?!?! I did figure it out thanks to earlier posts. For $28 you would think an installer maybe? I've paid less money for a much better product. This was kind of a joke. Better than flying into default but not by much.

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9 hours ago, sivart2000 said:

I FINALLY got the new download links to this scenery and downloaded it plus the DHL parking hotfix. I dropped the scenery into the main P3d folder because for some reason the scenery needs to be in the ecosystem folder. I tried putting just the KCVG folder on my scenery drives with my others and I got a CTD after a frozen splash screen.

It's working finally.This thing has been a  nightmare! I've been messing around with a PAYWARE scenery for a week now and it doesn't look much better than an old FS9 scenery. Definitly not worth the money or the hassle.

 

 

If you added to the scenery library then moved the location of your scenery it might freeze the sim on startup. I moved to a custom directory and added an add-on xml to that new location and it worked. The first time you start p3d after making an add-on xml there might be a hidden "do you want to add X to the scenery library?" message behind the splash screen. Just ALT + TAB to see if any windows are hidden

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On ‎7‎/‎31‎/‎2019 at 6:10 PM, Boeing or not going said:

Yes sure I'll do that too, move the gate parking spots more forward. And connect the cargo spots I have to the taxi lines in the late afternoon tomorrow.

Looks like there's more going on with the jetways than just the position of the parking spots

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If developers could finally stop putting sceneries into the main P3D folder, that'd be great. I mean, most of the time you can just select a different install directory and it works fine, but some are really stubborn.

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Ran out of time again. The light blue should be heavy DHL contractor parking like Kalitta, Aerologic, Polar heavies. The rest should be smaller airplanes like 737/757/767 I think?

Moved up the gates and will test in the morning. If it is okay I will post a download link here

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The Skyline Simulation website is down.  They posted the following message on Facebook:

As of recent events and due to the "bumpy" release of KCVG for P3D/FSX, we are moving to a new host and server. Moving our things shall take some time and that is why you noticed that our website is under maintenance. We had some negative reviews, believe us we read them all one by one and our target is to never let this happen again. It was indeed something unexpected, we never imagined something like this would happen, especially when we released our very second scenery for P3D and FSX. Please, be a little more patient and everything is going to be working just fine. To the ones that wished us well, we thank you once more! To the ones that had negative impact over this, we are sorry and rest assured, we believe we now took more safety measures, so you experience in our website and products will be smooth from now on!

The Skyline Team.

 

Hopefully they've learned from this experience.

 

Paul K

KGYR

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Sooo, the incomplete afcad was because of server issues?😂🤣 I know not, my point is they may have had some things happen that were "out of their control" but a lot of issues were well within their control or at least would have been with a little foresight or contingency planning.  I take that as an indication of the developer's overall competence or incompetence. 

Also, just not a very good scenery for the price. Better price point would have been about $15 in my opinion. 

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5 hours ago, sivart2000 said:

Sooo, the incomplete afcad was because of server issues?😂🤣 I know not, my point is they may have had some things happen that were "out of their control" but a lot of issues were well within their control or at least would have been with a little foresight or contingency planning.  I take that as an indication of the developer's overall competence or incompetence. 

Also, just not a very good scenery for the price. Better price point would have been about $15 in my opinion. 

The server issues have happened to most developers. But you are right they should have checked the sode jetways and had dhl parking from the start. The scenery looks nice and performs nice too but they could use a couple more beta testers. I hope they update the scenery to the current layout after getting through server problems.

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Their website is back up so I am presuming they are on their new host provider. Anyone purchase yet since the site is back up and did you get the full installer?

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It's still just showing the links for the manuals

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On ‎8‎/‎3‎/‎2019 at 7:10 PM, Boeing or not going said:

Ran out of time again. The light blue should be heavy DHL contractor parking like Kalitta, Aerologic, Polar heavies. The rest should be smaller airplanes like 737/757/767 I think?

Moved up the gates and will test in the morning. If it is okay I will post a download link here

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Did you have any luck with adjusting the parking at the gates?.  The B gates are really bad - too far from the jetways.  At term A, all the Allegiant Airbusses get crammed together, wings on top of each other.  

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Are there any screenshots from users yet?

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Their site is back up, anyone purchase yet? If so, is the installer okay now?

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7 hours ago, pads103 said:

Did you have any luck with adjusting the parking at the gates?.  The B gates are really bad - too far from the jetways.  At term A, all the Allegiant Airbusses get crammed together, wings on top of each other.  

They put all the gates so close to each other I do not think the layout is right. A couple gates missing also. My night performance is terrible. Try this afcad for jetways I also coded many gates for a more realistic layout but did not have time to test https://www.dropbox.com/s/3t3vuucz5c7krcn/KCVG_AIP.bgl?dl=0

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9 minutes ago, Boeing or not going said:

They put all the gates so close to each other I do not think the layout is right. A couple gates missing also. My night performance is terrible. Try this afcad for jetways I also coded many gates for a more realistic layout but did not have time to test https://www.dropbox.com/s/3t3vuucz5c7krcn/KCVG_AIP.bgl?dl=0

Ok, I'll try it out, thanks.  The night performance is due to the poor dynamic lighting effects used.  I've ordered new lighting from inibuilds, which has much better performing DL effects.  Keep an eye out on their website for it.

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3 minutes ago, pads103 said:

Ok, I'll try it out, thanks.  The night performance is due to the poor dynamic lighting effects used.  I've ordered new lighting from inibuilds, which has much better performing DL effects.  Keep an eye out on their website for it.

I will go through the gates and make sure the numbers are right, I think they packed too many north gates than there are in real life. I coded Allegiant to the gates they use same for others like Southwest and many regionals. There was no north parking spots for FedEx in the file so I created them but I didn't check if the scenery actually includes the north ramp yet.

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31 minutes ago, Boeing or not going said:

I will go through the gates and make sure the numbers are right, I think they packed too many north gates than there are in real life. I coded Allegiant to the gates they use same for others like Southwest and many regionals. There was no north parking spots for FedEx in the file so I created them but I didn't check if the scenery actually includes the north ramp yet.

It looks so much better!  Thanks for taking the time to do it.  A few more of the jetways work now at term B.  I don't think there's much more you can do with the others because they are so misaligned to the parking spots.  The commuter terminal looks 100 percent better with the allegiant planes moved.  Still getting frontier A320s there.  Can those be move out of there too?  Almost all the cargo planes are now showing up where they should be.  I appreciate your work here.  Fedex shows up nicely at the north ramp

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2 minutes ago, pads103 said:

It looks so much better!  Thanks for taking the time to do it.  A few more of the jetways work now at term B.  I don't think there's much more you can do with the others because they are so misaligned to the parking spots.  The commuter terminal looks 100 percent better with the allegiant planes moved.  Still getting frontier A320s there.  Can those be move out of there too?  Almost all the cargo planes are now showing up where they should be.  I appreciate your work here.  Fedex shows up nicely at the north ramp

Going to bed and work in the morning. I'll continue to look at the terminals after I get home. I moved all the gates more forward so if they are not connecting still that is up to the developer to adjust the sode files.

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I had been waiting for this scenery for quite a while and was concerned that the project had been scrapped after not seeing a CVG update on the Skyline Simulations Facebook page for the better part of a year.

First thing is that they seem to have their website and server issues fixed.  I was able to buy the product and download it with no issues and at a high speed.  

However once installed it has unfortunately been mostly disappointing.  Like many people have already stated the AFCAD is a total mess.  Most spots at the terminal are not properly coded and are badly misaligned.  And the DHL facility was omitted completely.  

The terminal layout is also outdated as people have previously mentioned, with terminal two and concourse c still present.  I was hoping to have the option to simply remove these objects from the scenery folder, however it appears that the terminal complex has been consolidated into one large scenery file.  Also missing is the significant DHL ramp addition north of taxiway n, which was constructed in 2016.

The terminal details and texturing also frankly do not look as crisp as I expected from the Facebook photos.  I don't know if those were supposed to be for this version or if those were for a newer version still not released.  I also have some annoying texture flickering for example the Delta logo on the hanger which really takes away from the immersion.  And despite running P3D 4.5 and having all those PBR textures in the folder, I am getting mostly just a bunch of flickering and not the reflections and metallic look that I get at LatinVFR Miami for example.  And finally, I am having some performance issues with lower than expected FPS and micro stutters.  Perhaps this has something to do with the very large number of texture sheets (normal maps, lit maps, ect.) that have been converted from Xplane?  

I really hope that some of these issues will be addressed.  It is obvious the developers at Skyline Simulations have a very high level of talent based upon some of their other products and what has been showcased on their Facebook page.  However this scenery in its current form is in need of some significant work.  

 

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They failed miserably with their first major P3D product. They have a opportunity to address things and get out in front of the bad publicity but they need to do it quickly. A statement by them and an update to their product would definitely be in their favor with regards to their reputation with the community. If they do nothing and release no updates to address the poor frames, flickering issues, the AFCAD disaster, etc... then they might as well stick with XPlane.

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Skyline Simulation has released KCVG for P3D at simMarket.  I wonder if it's an updated version with corrections and changes regarding the AFCAD, etc. that were noted by many earlier users?

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Judging by the screenshots it's the same version with the same outdated Terminals. It's just an upload to another store.

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Purchased KCVG via simMarket.  Installed. Doesn't appear they've updated the airport's configuration to current status. Problem:  no night lights.  Installed the 2 dynamic lighting files in the P3D/effects folder as directed.  Any thoughts, suggestions??

Thanks.

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