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I wouldn't go anywhere near v4 until I understand exactly how this new version works and how it affects my scenery libraries.

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57 minutes ago, DJJose said:

I wouldn't go anywhere near v4 until I understand exactly how this new version works and how it affects my scenery libraries.

...and I make a fresh backup image of the drive my simulator is on.

Greg

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No Vector problem or long loading times of P3D here.

Actually Orbx Central 4 is a vast improvement on previous version

and works for me as advertised.

noels7

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Noels7 thank you for the comments, can you say if you downloaded V4.0.0 and then installed Vector  and run the config , I ask because I installed Vector with the V 0.20. and that may be my problem...

Thank you

 

Jorge

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Anyone tried this with x-plane 11.35?

Does this mean that I can have my ORBX files in a different drive? Will it move them to this different drive? I’m running out of space on my X-P11 drive with TE files and this would nicely solve things. Thanks.

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if you are comfortable with dynamic links...

from the promo

In X-Plane 11, Central automatically creates and manages symbolic links, connecting your Custom Scenery directory to your Central Library.

 

Jorge

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Spent most of my day messing with this today and wish I hadn't. As others have said, if you have any 3rd party addon manager, everything will get jumbled up, as Central has no way of inserting things around other .XML entries. The response to this on the Orbx forum was something to the effect of 'none of us have a 3rd party addon manager.' Seems like most simmers these days do, so a definite oversight by them. Also had a CTD today after I finally got in the air. Wish i would have left things alone. 

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Jorge

I downloaded Version 4 and followed all the prompts and made my decisions.

I uninstalled Version 3. Vector was already installed on my system.

Since op said that running Vector cfg left rhs of vector empty I tried it and all

worked normally with rhs fully populated. Started P3D V4.5 and my Scenery  cfg

is as when I finished complete reinstall of windows, P3D and Orbx scenery yesterday.

noels7

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Thank you Noels7 , the reason for it to work for you is that all was installed with ceentral v3 and then V4 installed , that is what makes the diff, DO you have an ORBX folder in the P3D Root?

Also the scenery config file should not have any ORBX entries in it...

Jorge

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Yes Orbx folder (278gig) is in P3D folder. 

Scenery config file does not have any Orbx entries in it.

I have just completed verifying all my Orbx scenery and they are backed upon my D Drive

under Orbx backups.  I will have to spend sometime reading V4 literature because I am not sure

about a couple of things.

noels7

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Morning Guys,

A fix (sort of) was posted overnight, using MakeRunways or Lorby Addon Organizer:

https://orbxsystems.com/forum/topic/177178-elevation-problems-not-fixed-after-running-global-vector-auto-config/

I tried it and it works but I hope they aren't counting on this process only going forward. Having said that and given how little Vector has been touched over the years I'm not optimistic anything further will be done.

Guess I got lucky, no loading time increases here.

Best,

Gerald

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Noels7 , there you go , this is supposed NOT to install anything in the P3D root folder ... this guys are incredible ... say one thing do another...

Unfortunately they should fix the mess ...but as you see the ORBX BN brigade keeps saying all is well and nothing will happen.

 

Jorge

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I do not want ORBx Central to mess about with my scenery.cfg file. I still use the old Scenery Library method, so I would prefer (no.....demand) that I have the option to do so without problems. Am I worrying about nothing here?

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12 hours ago, aeronauta said:

The loading times are also very high here and it is as a result of the way the xml method is used , they use Add-on Discovery path , this seems to be the problem as all my scenery and aircraft are installed using the Add-on package and I had no problem with loading...
 

Jorge

I had no idea that the method affects the loading times. Since moving my whole add-on installation to the xml-method (discovery path under Roaming) early this year, my loading time significantly increased (up to some 7 minutes for 100 non-ORBX sceneries with no AI). Following your post I now changed them to the package path (ProgramData) and loading times are back to 90sec (same as with scenery.cfg before). Thanks so much for this great tip, Jorge.

Hope somebody from ORBX is reading your comment and take notice of the disadvantages that come with the discovery path method.

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44 minutes ago, aeronauta said:

but as you see the ORBX BN brigade keeps saying all is well and nothing will happen

Oh yes, the Orbx Appreciation Society, they give you the warm fuzzies.

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27 minutes ago, Christopher Low said:

I do not want ORBx Central to mess about with my scenery.cfg file. I still use the old Scenery Library method, so I would prefer (no.....demand) that I have the option to do so without problems. Am I worrying about nothing here?

You have two options which will achieve what you want.

1. short term solution: do not use Orbx Central

2. long term solution: use Orbx central but do not:

a) migrate any products to a "Library".

b) install any more products

3. Of course, do not use the xml method of installation for any UK 2000 products or any

from other developers that you might have purchased, that use that method.

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4 minutes ago, Reader said:

You have two options which will achieve what you want.

1. short term solution: do not use Orbx Central

2. long term solution: use Orbx central but do not:

a) migrate any products to a "Library".

b) install any more products

3. Of course, do not use the xml method of installation for any UK 2000 products or any

from other developers that you might have purchased, that use that method.

3. Stick with FTXC v3. 😁

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short term solution: do not use Orbx Central

 

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35 minutes ago, Wolkenschreck said:

Following your post I now changed them to the package path (ProgramData) and loading times are back to 90sec (same as with scenery.cfg before).

Ehm, what? Do we have to use "ProgramData" folder for all ORBX products installed via add-on.xml to avoid longer loading times? Seriously? If this is true, this should be instantly reported over at the ORBX forums and resolved, this can not be...

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AS ALWAYS with our customer friendly friends at Orbx...

This is a can of worms...i would bet many will sail through the process...but i'd bet bigger that ALOT of people with have a 3 day migraine

They keep doing thing to push me further n further from them....

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22 minutes ago, AnkH said:

Ehm, what? Do we have to use "ProgramData" folder for all ORBX products installed via add-on.xml to avoid longer loading times? Seriously? If this is true, this should be instantly reported over at the ORBX forums and resolved, this can not be...

No, my post is referring to my non-ORBX products. I had them registered in the sim via add-on.xmls that I had saved in X:\Documents\Prepar3D v4 Add-ons (aka the "discovery path method").

I did not messed around with the new ORBX central yet as my sim is running nice and smoothly. But I own most of the ORBX products that appeal to tubeliner pilots like me and hence, I am reluctant to play around with it as of yet. My ORBX selection are the only sceneries that are still registered via the scenery.cfg.

But it would be indeed interesting to know whether the new Cenral is saving add-on.xml files in X:\Documents\Prepar3D v4 Add-ons or not.

I found this a thread where Oliver (Lorby) does explain it in a bit more detail: 



 

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8 hours ago, dbw1 said:

Anyone tried this with x-plane 11.35?

Does this mean that I can have my ORBX files in a different drive? Will it move them to this different drive? I’m running out of space on my X-P11 drive with TE files and this would nicely solve things. Thanks.

Works like a charm for me with Xplane last Version! I selected an other drive than the one my Xplane is installed.

The only problem I encountered so far with P3D4, is with "AI Traffic North America General Aviation P3Dv4". After transfer to my new ORBX library, I add to remove all the "FTX NA planes" from the P3D4/SimObjects/ Airplanes folder to avoid double planes registrations.

There are many critics here, but if a noob like can do it without too much troubles, everybody can do it. Yes the transfer is a little bit tedious if you have a lot of ORBX stuff(A box to tick in front of the sceneries you want to transfer would have been very welcome)

Regards

Pat

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30 minutes ago, Wolkenschreck said:

But it would be indeed interesting to know whether the new Cenral is saving add-on.xml files in X:\Documents\Prepar3D v4 Add-ons or not.

Hi Chris,

They put an addon.xml in each individual folder:

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And here's a couple from my Scenery config:

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For the most part it's honoring my insertion points of Airports and Regions below Addon Scenery and Global OLC below ORBX Products and Regions. But since there is always some ORBX drama there's a few at the top that make no sense to me, particularly having all of Pacific Fjords near the top.

FYI, hope this adds to the discussion...

 

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