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New Orbx Central v4.0 now available to download

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14 minutes ago, kymh said:

Scary indeed Stan.

I've just loaded P3Dv4.5 for the first time since upgrading to Central 4.02.

I have an 8700K CPU at 5000Mhz with 32GB RAM and an RTX 2080 TI overclocked with 11GB RAM.

Everything is on SSD.

Prior to ORBX Central 4.02, my load time for the TFDI 717 at EGLL was 5 minutes and 7seconds and everything looked great with all things ORBX.

My load time today was 21 minutes and 25 seconds of which 17 minutes and 50 seconds was just looking at 6%

If that's not bad enough, Once I'm out of the airport all the ground textures look like garbage.

I'm not sure what I'll do from here, try to restore from my backups, spend a day or so investigating what ORBX has done to me or spend a month reinstalling P3D.

IF I COULD TURN BACK TIME 😞

That is ridiculous, I'm sorry to hear that.

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44 minutes ago, kymh said:

My load time today was 21 minutes and 25 seconds of which 17 minutes and 50 seconds was just looking at 6%.

Did you install the HotFix too?  It should help with that long gaze you have now at the 6% point.

Greg

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I'm not sure about the hotfix? but Central 4.0.0 has been updated to 4.0.2

I've just restored my add-ons.cfg, scenery.cfg, scenery_add-ons.xml, SceneryStatus.bin and terrain.cfg

That has put me back to 4minute and 39 second load time from 21 minutes and 25 seconds mentioned above and also, the ground looks lovely once again after departing from EGLL.

I'm reinstalling FTX Central 3.3.9.2, uninstalling 4.02 and then undoing everything else Central 4 did yesterday.

I might try again later but as always, thanks to my daily backups of everything (recommending AOMEI Backupper Pro which has saved my life on many an occasion).

 

Extremely disappointed with ORBX on this one though.
Having purchased over 120 of their products I don't expect to be a BETA Tester unless something is noted as being BETA.

Without my daily backups I don't know how much time this would have cost me.

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Sorry, I was referring to the P3Dv4.5 HotFix.  If you haven't added it you really should... makes life a lot better! 🥂

Greg

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2 hours ago, kymh said:

Scary indeed Stan.

I've just loaded P3Dv4.5 for the first time since upgrading to Central 4.02.

I have an 8700K CPU at 5000Mhz with 32GB RAM and an RTX 2080 TI overclocked with 11GB RAM.

Everything is on SSD.

Prior to ORBX Central 4.02, my load time for the TFDI 717 at EGLL was 5 minutes and 7seconds and everything looked great with all things ORBX.

My load time today was 21 minutes and 25 seconds of which 17 minutes and 50 seconds was just looking at 6%

If that's not bad enough, Once I'm out of the airport all the ground textures look like garbage.

I'm not sure what I'll do from here, try to restore from my backups, spend a day or so investigating what ORBX has done to me or spend a month reinstalling P3D.

IF I COULD TURN BACK TIME 😞

Hello,

intriguing as well as disappointing.

Did all this happen just because you installed and ran Orbx Central or did you do something else,

migrate all of your 120 products for example?

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16 hours ago, gsand said:

They put an addon.xml in each individual folder:

Hello Gerald,

would you mind posting/sending me via PM one of those add-on.xml files (from a scenery product)? I would like to check something.

Many thanks and best regards

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I did not migrate, just installed FTX Central 4 and let it update three or four airports

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Working fine for me. I have migrated everything into the new library system - no problems and no noticeable increase in load times.

But then I only have a a dozen or so ORBX addons, not hundreds...

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On 8/5/2019 at 11:40 PM, SolRayz said:

Ok thank you Jorge. Atleast I know I'm not alone. I was planning on writing on Orbx forum, but I don't feel like waiting a month for a response. 

If you don’t make them aware how are they to know to fix it??

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On 8/5/2019 at 11:40 PM, SolRayz said:

Ok thank you Jorge. Atleast I know I'm not alone. I was planning on writing on Orbx forum, but I don't feel like waiting a month for a response. 

 

On 8/5/2019 at 11:44 PM, aeronauta said:

Plus you get the BN brigade that never finds anything wrong and....

Someone will find it and complain ...will see...

 

Jorge

 

As pointed out, if you do not inform developers of a problem, then they cannot help you fix it.

 

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3 hours ago, Lorby_SI said:

Hello Gerald,

would you mind posting/sending me via PM one of those add-on.xml files (from a scenery product)? I would like to check something.

Many thanks and best regards

My pleasure, PM on the way.

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2 hours ago, brucefriday123 said:

If you don’t make them aware how are they to know to fix it??

 

1 hour ago, Reader said:

 

 

As pointed out, if you do not inform developers of a problem, then they cannot help you fix it.

 

I have , and no answer as yet, reading their support forum I can see the number of people having my download problem increasing , only if you had all orbx installed in your p3d folder a migration would be possible , I did not (fresh install) ... that is why I try to install using my previous manual downloads , it fails and downloads everything again... I dont know how this product that purports to install everyrhing outside the P3D folder requires an orbx folder inside P3D (See forum) , also Vector cannot detect scenery outside the P3D folder (see forum) so it does not work ...you have to read the workarounds ...it is a new product , should have never passed beta... whoever managed this team is due for a sacking...

 

Jorge

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I think the same thing but didn’t want to say.

How...just how would something this big, in such an absolute mess that it is, ever ever get through “ months” of BETA testing..

seriously....how?

because if you took a random 10 testers...1 will be useful 

9 are just non inputting software sponges that offer nothing but to gain free software.....leaving this pile of steaming “matter” to be released to public who had to pay full whack for the software...only to be left in this position.

well shucks, guess there’s a lot to thank the TESTERS for eh?...

a minging poor show all round.

Oh, and this has happened how many times now?

and every time orbx decide to have a good idea, why does it always, every time, cause massive problems, and those problems are just dumped in customers lap to deal with when it was orbx themselves to cause the problem in the 1st place!

....then, naturally we get angry.

god forbid you vent on there forum. They’ll take your thousands of dollars though, no problem, but vent and you’ll be thrown in the cellar.

just a joke..

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I must admit that after running the new Orbx Central my load time went from 4 minutes to 22 minutes hanging on the famous 6% point. So i did a re-arrange with scenery config editor 1.1.9 and made several backups. Loading time was back to normal.

Then i discovered in Orbx Central in settings insertion point. I changed Airport and regions insertion point to the same point as i did in scenery config editor. THAT did the trick!. Loading time is still great (4minutes) after i run Orbx central. So i suggest play with insertion point but leave Global openLC defautlt( Orbx Products and regions)

Kind regards,

 

Bouwe

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hmm i havent touch Central yet . Is there an option to not update (cancel)?

I use Lorbi´s great Scenery Configurator which works great. Is there problems with this software  after the update to 4.0 ?

Thanks

Michael Moe

 

btw . i have a lot of stuff in documents/P3Dv4 Add-ons/ from FSDT etc. Is this a bad installation by the developer?

 

 

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Using  p3dv4.4   downloaded   with no issues,  took awhile  to update  all my airports   etc, no issues  went into sim loaded  fsl labs 320 into orbx ymml (auv2) loaded  with in  2  minutes to  gate

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Why is this update not available to all? Opening orbx central everyday and no message of an update lol!!!!

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7 minutes ago, kurtb said:

Why is this update not available to all? Opening orbx central everyday and no message of an update lol!!!!

It's a full download.

You need to download OC v4. Delete FTXC v3. Install OC v4.

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I checked the ORBX Central forum again today and I'm starting to get some answers to my questions.

1) You can download ORBX Central and as long as you do not update your airports, only new installs will utilize the .xml method. This means we can use our current scenery.cfg files. Don't update your airports or migrate and you should be safe.

2) You can stick with FTXC v3, but future new airports will require the new ORBX Central to install them.

I have not personally tested the above, but it sounds credible.

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Well, what a nice release then: you can stick with all the old stuff for having a working sim, but when you want something new, you have to switch to a non-working approach... A mess, nothing more or less...

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14 minutes ago, DJJose said:

2) You can stick with FTXC v3, but future new airports will require the new ORBX Central to install them.

I guess I won’t be buying anything new than. I’m not touching 4.0 until I need to do a clean install down the road because right now my sim has been running great for the last year. 

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Beta testing is more than posting a few pretty pics online. It does require some experience. 😁

The reason why I did not take part in the beta testing for OC v4, is because I helped them discover that Objectflow for P3D v4 would not work without the Visual C++ Redistributable Packages and I did not even get a thank you.

OC pdf has no mention of my last post. It seems that ORBX want its users to forget about v3 and move right to v4. There's really no reason for them to support v3, now that v4 has been released. JM2C

 

 

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I wanted to move the Global Base files to an external library but guess what the manual says: "Unfortunately, due to technical limitations, Orbx Global Base Pack can’t be migrated into a
library."  I guess this means that after installing a P3D content version update, your Global Base files will be overwritten just like in the old days.

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2 hours ago, DJJose said:

I checked the ORBX Central forum again today and I'm starting to get some answers to my questions.

1) You can download ORBX Central and as long as you do not update your airports, only new installs will utilize the .xml method. This means we can use our current scenery.cfg files. Don't update your airports or migrate and you should be safe.

2) You can stick with FTXC v3, but future new airports will require the new ORBX Central to install them.

I have not personally tested the above, but it sounds credible.

Not great if.....

1) You use the old scenery.cfg method, and you want to keep on using it because certain scenery packages need to be above others in the pecking order. Yes, I know that I can use external utilities for this, but I should not have to.

2) You want to carry on using the scenery.cfg method, but ORBx Central will not permit it when anything new is installed.

 

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