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I5 9600k For P3D v4

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My son just bought a mobo (with M2 Storage) and i5 9600k for about $350.00  At first I told him he was crazy, but then I looked at the specs/ performance   Crazy...like a fox!

anyone else running an i5 9600k with p3d. and if so, thoughts

my current proc is a very old and tired i7 2600K

TIA, -Braun

CPU Mark Relative to Top 10 Common Desktop CPUs
As of 27th of August 2019 - Higher results represent better performance
Intel Core i7-8700K @ 3.70GHz
15,963
Intel Core i5-9600K @ 3.70GHz
13,534
Intel Core i7-7700K @ 4.20GHz
12,031
Intel Core i7-4790K @ 4.00GHz
11,169
Intel Core i7-6700K @ 4.00GHz
11,110
Intel Core i7-4770K @ 3.50GHz
10,074
Intel Core i7-4790 @ 3.60GHz
9,988
Intel Core i7-3770 @ 3.40GHz
9,279
AMD FX-8350 Eight-Core
8,952
Intel Core i5-3570K @ 3.40GHz
7,177
AMD FX-6300 Six-Core
6,389
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CPU Value (CPU Mark / $Price )
As of 27th of August 2019 - Higher results represent better value
Intel Core i7-3770 @ 3.40GHz
68.73
AMD FX-8350 Eight-Core
64.64
Intel Core i5-9600K @ 3.70GHz
61.81
AMD FX-6300 Six-Core
53.25
Intel Core i7-4790 @ 3.60GHz
49.94
Intel Core i7-8700K @ 3.70GHz
45.61
Intel Core i7-4790K @ 4.00GHz
36.03
Intel Core i7-6700K @ 4.00GHz
35.54
Intel Core i7-7700K @ 4.20GHz
34.67
Intel Core i7-4770K @ 3.50GHz
29.37
Intel Core i5-3570K @ 3.40GHz
23.92
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I don't run an i5 9600k, but, I would say that's a decent enough deal for mobo+cpu.  

For P3D, I would prefer an i7 (like the i7 9700k, which isn't too expensive and clocks well), unless I was on a budget.  If on a budget, the cpu you mention is plenty good -- pair that with M.2 storage and it's rock n roll time.  As a point of comparison, I made a similar jump (i7 2700K to i7 8700K) and it is quite an improvement, as you might expect.   Still I think if you're going to spend the money, I'd spring for an i7 9700K instead -- you will thank yourself on approach to Heathrow.

Our 2600K / 2700K's were great cpu's in their day, weren't they?   I still have mine, so that I can fly FSX and the PMDG MD-11.


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The 9600K does not have a soldered integrated heatsink like its big brothers, is a six-core no-HT CPU, and only has 9MB of L3 cache.  It'll work OK, but I second the opinion that the 9700K would be a much better choice for P3D, and frankly I'd rather have an 8th-Gen 8700K or 8086K than the 9600K based on what I've read about the 9600K w/r/t overclocking. 

Regards


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17 hours ago, w6kd said:

The 9600K does not have a soldered integrated heatsink like its big brothers

Do you by chance have any proof of this? As I thought the 9600k was simply a 9700k with HT-disabled.

 

To the original poster... See specs in sig... I came from a 4790k @ 4.8 and a 2600k @ 4.8 before that, all have been nice jumps in performance. The 9600k is awesome I can run high settings with pay-ware airports and aircraft with heavy traffic and weather and maintain smooth flight. The bigger difference would be a RTX2080, it cuts through bad weather no problem, but yes very expensive.


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43 minutes ago, TurboKen said:

Do you by chance have any proof of this? As I thought the 9600k was simply a 9700k with HT-disabled.

 

To the original poster... See specs in sig... I came from a 4790k @ 4.8 and a 2600k @ 4.8 before that, all have been nice jumps in performance. The 9600k is awesome I can run high settings with pay-ware airports and aircraft with heavy traffic and weather and maintain smooth flight. The bigger difference would be a RTX2080, it cuts through bad weather no problem, but yes very expensive.

Well, no.  I went back to the articles I had saved on the 9th gen series (from around this time last year), and at the time, Intel had explicitly stated that the 9700K and 9900K were going to use STIM, and they had rather curiously omitted mention of the 9600K.  Several of the articles opined that the omission meant the 9600K was going to be paste TIM.

Looking through the current data, the 9600K does also have the soldered IHS, so you got me there, I've been going on some bad outdated speculation. 

But...that said, the 9600K is *not* a 9700K without HT.  The 9700K is also not HT-enabled, but is an 8-core CPU with 12 MB L3 cache.  The 9600K is 6-cores, no HT with 9 MB L3 cache.  The 8700K/8086K and the 9900K have HT and 2 MB L3 cache per core (12/16MB).

Regards


Bob Scott | President and CEO, AVSIM Inc
ATP Gulfstream II-III-IV-V

System1 (P3Dv5/v4): i9-13900KS @ 6.0GHz, water 2x360mm, ASUS Z790 Hero, 32GB GSkill 7800MHz CAS36, ASUS RTX4090
Samsung 55" JS8500 4K TV@30Hz,
3x 2TB WD SN850X 1x 4TB Crucial P3 M.2 NVME SSD, EVGA 1600T2 PSU, 1.2Gbps internet
Fiber link to Yamaha RX-V467 Home Theater Receiver, Polk/Klipsch 6" bookshelf speakers, Polk 12" subwoofer, 12.9" iPad Pro
PFC yoke/throttle quad/pedals with custom Hall sensor retrofit, Thermaltake View 71 case, Stream Deck XL button box

Sys2 (MSFS/XPlane): i9-10900K @ 5.1GHz, 32GB 3600/15, nVidia RTX4090FE, Alienware AW3821DW 38" 21:9 GSync, EVGA 1000P2
Thrustmaster TCA Boeing Yoke, TCA Airbus Sidestick, 2x TCA Airbus Throttle quads, PFC Cirrus Pedals, Coolermaster HAF932 case

Portable Sys3 (P3Dv4/FSX/DCS): i9-9900K @ 5.0 Ghz, Noctua NH-D15, 32GB 3200/16, EVGA RTX3090, Dell S2417DG 24" GSync
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7 hours ago, w6kd said:

But...that said, the 9600K is *not* a 9700K without HT.  The 9700K is also not HT-enabled, but is an 8-core CPU with 12 MB L3 cache.  The 9600K is 6-cores, no HT with 9 MB L3 cache.  The 8700K/8086K and the 9900K have HT and 2 MB L3 cache per core (12/16MB).

This cannot be emphasized enough.     


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On 8/29/2019 at 10:19 AM, w6kd said:

 

Looking through the current data, the 9600K does also have the soldered IHS, so you got me there, I've been going on some bad outdated speculation. 

But...that said, the 9600K is *not* a 9700K without HT.  The 9700K is also not HT-enabled, but is an 8-core CPU with 12 MB L3 cache.  The 9600K is 6-cores, no HT with 9 MB L3 cache.  The 8700K/8086K and the 9900K have HT and 2 MB L3 cache per core (12/16MB).

OK. good to know it is soldered, I was thinking I was going to be performing a de-lid this weekend. (although I have heard it can still be done, just more difficult)

 

That's right, there is the difference in cache also... 

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Thanks to all who replied.  My son's box is built now and its a screamer! (at least for him LoL).  The price delta between the i59600K and the i79700K is about $250.00 US.  For now I think I am taking the lower cost route unless prices shift dramatically over the next 3 to 4 months, at which time I will be upgrading my system.

-Braun

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