Ultimate Traffic Live alternatives?

[Zimmerbz 168]

It has been a while since I have last checked but are there any good alternatives to UTL out there that have up to date / current liveries?  UTL is outdated, and I don't have the time to manually update them.  I was wondering if there is anything else out there that people would recommend.  There was a free, manual solution that looked complicated to me that I don't recall the name.  What I liked about UTL is you pretty much install it, play with the settings and you are all set.  Thanks!

[onebob 125]

Alpha India Group (AIG) , there is a thread here on this forum, last date was around the 13 sept.

 

bob

[simfan1983 185]

You also could update the liveries in UTL using a free tool called AI2 UTL Injector. All you do is set two paths in the config file and run the tool, then copy the resulting repaints config file into the UTL folder. I did this recently using the free FLAI models and it was not difficult. I'm happy to talk you through the process by pm.

I agree that UTL has a good user interface, it also does GA AI, which I believe AIG's software does not.

 

 

[SpeedBudgie 3]

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Hi,

After being a UTL user myself, I accidentally uninstalled it last week and then thought this is the chance to try Alpha India Groups One Click Installer. I am enjoying it very much, looks daunting for a start but once set up it's great, especially with AI companion and AI Separation.

[newtie 533]

1 hour ago, Zimmerbz said:

It has been a while since I have last checked but are there any good alternatives to UTL out there that have up to date / current liveries?  UTL is outdated, and I don't have the time to manually update them.  I was wondering if there is anything else out there that people would recommend.  There was a free, manual solution that looked complicated to me that I don't recall the name.  What I liked about UTL is you pretty much install it, play with the settings and you are all set.  Thanks!

This works for me. Remarkably accurate.

http://ailivetraffic.com/

Cheers,

Mark

[Midnight Music 252]

I too switched from UTLive to the AIG system. First of all the aircraft look so much better and I was frustrated by UTL that I couldn't update to the newer airports that have been coming out like SEQM and so forth. AIG does all that and more. Something to look into.

Lee

[Zimmerbz 168]

37 minutes ago, Midnight Music said:

I too switched from UTLive to the AIG system. First of all the aircraft look so much better and I was frustrated by UTL that I couldn't update to the newer airports that have been coming out like SEQM and so forth. AIG does all that and more. Something to look into.

Lee

Say I switch to AIG.  I assume there is a tutorial but in a nutshell, I would first uninstall UTL.  Then install AIG.  After that, I would go to some specific place to find a bunch of AI liveries that I want to install and then load them to AIG?  I like the automation of UTL so I want to try to avoid having multiple downloads of different liveries for each plane a carrier flies.  I feel like i'd be downloading and installing things for days.  Please correct me if I am wrong! 

[Bobsk8 12,730]

17 minutes ago, Zimmerbz said:

Say I switch to AIG.  I assume there is a tutorial but in a nutshell, I would first uninstall UTL.  Then install AIG.  After that, I would go to some specific place to find a bunch of AI liveries that I want to install and then load them to AIG?  I like the automation of UTL so I want to try to avoid having multiple downloads of different liveries for each plane a carrier flies.  I feel like i'd be downloading and installing things for days.  Please correct me if I am wrong! 

I just switched from MT6 which I have had for years to UTL. I did it mainly for GA flights. The AI in UTL works great, one click, it installs, and it just works. I looked at AIG, and frankly, I have more to do in life than screw around with an AI program to get it to function properly. 

[Dave_YVR 973]

4 hours ago, Zimmerbz said:

After that, I would go to some specific place to find a bunch of AI liveries that I want to install and then load them to AIG?  I like the automation of UTL so I want to try to avoid having multiple downloads of different liveries for each plane a carrier flies.  I feel like i'd be downloading and installing things for days.  Please correct me if I am wrong!

You don't have to search for or download and install anything. AI Manager knows where to download everything that's required and installs it all for you. 

 

Edited September 25, 2019 by Dave_YVR

[ZKOKQ 984]

3 hours ago, Bobsk8 said:

I just switched from MT6 which I have had for years to UTL. I did it mainly for GA flights. The AI in UTL works great, one click, it installs, and it just works. I looked at AIG, and frankly, I have more to do in life than screw around with an AI program to get it to function properly. 

If your only using GA, of course it works great. Install big iron, its a pain the you know where.

[duckbilled 310]

10 hours ago, Zimmerbz said:

Say I switch to AIG.  I assume there is a tutorial but in a nutshell, I would first uninstall UTL.  Then install AIG.  After that, I would go to some specific place to find a bunch of AI liveries that I want to install and then load them to AIG?  I like the automation of UTL so I want to try to avoid having multiple downloads of different liveries for each plane a carrier flies.  I feel like i'd be downloading and installing things for days.  Please correct me if I am wrong! 

AIG does have a manual, but since the product is technically a beta, the manual may not be that current. Nonetheless, the forums are very helpful and the developers are very responsive. They have done a great job running the beta, and the current version is very stable.

I can't really remember how hard it is to set up. It was certainly a lot more challenging when they first released the thing last year, but I think those bugs have been fixed. Now, I just check for updates on the weekends. If there is a new version of the program, it automatically updates when you start it. If new airlines are added or current ones are updated, you can install them with a couple clicks.

I used some version of Ultimate Traffic for years, and I was a big fan of the product. I still have it installed, but I have all of the traffic shut off except for a handful of airlines that AIG doesn't have (Volaris, Korean...). The AIG AI Manager is so much easier. I feel like an old man looking back on all of the hours I spent downloading and installing paints into UT. It will be the FS version of walking 5 miles to school in the snow with no shoes. Our children will laugh at us for going through so much pain just to have nice looking AI.

Only drawback to AIGAIM I can think of is that your load times will increase.

[vbazillio 2,234]

6 hours ago, ZKOKQ said:

If your only using GA, of course it works great.

... and some UTL GA 3D models are awful !

PS : I personnaly updated my UTL traffic with the free "Orbx AI Traffic North America General Aviation"

Edited September 25, 2019 by vbazillio

[Kilo60 660]

15 hours ago, LEdwards said:

You also could update the liveries in UTL using a free tool called AI2 UTL Injector. All you do is set two paths in the config file and run the tool, then copy the resulting repaints config file into the UTL folder. I did this recently using the free FLAI models and it was not difficult. I'm happy to talk you through the process by pm.

I agree that UTL has a good user interface, it also does GA AI, which I believe AIG's software does not.

 

 

Wait a minute...

 

I’ve been manually adding FLAI AI AC to UTL with reprints?

 

How does this program know what liveries to update vs what’s already in UTL?

[Kilo60 660]

BTW does anyone know why the HTAI BN-2 from the HTAI website is unrecognizable when trying to access it in UTL...?

 

All other AI models show up fine but when I select UI manufacturer as listed in the AC .cfg (Britten-Norman) it isn’t listed in the UTL menu?

[simfan1983 185]

29 minutes ago, Kilo60 said:

Wait a minute...

 

I’ve been manually adding FLAI AI AC to UTL with reprints?

 

How does this program know what liveries to update vs what’s already in UTL?

It scans the repaints file and compares it to what is available in your repaint source (FLAI for me). There are various rules/options you can set but the default approach is very sensible. The log file after I ran it reported the following:

Total UTL Model processed: 4204
Total Ai Replaced: 2679