P3D v4.5 Hotfix 2 released (26 Sep 19)

[Pete Dowson 558]

1 hour ago, Christopher Low said:

I do not have a problem with take offs on 23L and landings on 23R

Well those are okay in any case.

1 hour ago, Christopher Low said:

I do not see a single AI plane trying to land on 23L.

Maybe you don't have enough AI traffic, or only check in the slow periods (middle of the day). In the late afternoon and early evening they are landing frequently on both, with a W or S wind. I use AIGM traffic at 100% and all airlines! 😉

Pete

 

[Ray Proudfoot 8,945]

2 hours ago, Christopher Low said:

Strangely, I do not have a problem with take offs on 23L and landings on 23R @ UK2000 Manchester Xtreme on my PC. In fact, someone posted on the UK2000 forum just a few days ago about this problem, and I offered to send him my version of the AFD file. He has since reported that his problem has been solved.

I do not see a single AI plane trying to land on 23L.

The takeoffs you cite are fine. Mirrors real world ops. As Pete suggests maybe your Ai density is not sufficient to cause 23L landings? I haven’t installed the fix yet. I’ll do it tomorrow.

[Kilo60 660]

1 hour ago, GSalden said:

Another example why you should install all components and no just the client..

Client

• Improved handling of alpha values in terrain vector textures.

 Scenery Fixes and Improvements

• Fixed incorrect transparency values in several autogen objects.

 This fix allows 3rd party developers to do wonders with night lighting.. 😉 but it will work nicer with both fixes.

 Simbol

Does this HF update the scenery install as well?  Is there a version number increase to check or are you also updating the scenery out of an abundance of caution?

 

Is it listed somewhere officially on what exactly needs updating and how to apply this HF...?

 

Afain do not want scenery conflicts and don’t want to touch my scenery files unless absolutely necessary!

[Twenty6 692]

8 minutes ago, Kilo60 said:

Is it listed somewhere officially on what exactly needs updating and how to apply this HF...?

Here's straight from the Prepar3d website. Notice what is "required" and what is "optional." If you absolutely, positively need one of the "optional" features .... you will have to install that part (Content, Scenery or both.)

"Only the Client installer is required for the majority of fixes present in Prepar3D v4.5 Hotfix 2. The Content, Scenery, and SDK installers are optional. Each fix listed below is categorized per installer. Please note, you must first have Prepar3D v4 installed to utilize any of the standalone installers (Client, Content, and Scenery).

To install the new Client, you must first uninstall your current Prepar3D v4 Client via Programs and Features in Windows Control Panel."

[IanHarrison 522]

2 hours ago, Twenty6 said:

Turn off the default  traffic BGLs in Scenery\World (or Global)\Scenery.  Delta is an Addon AI carrier, not default. 

Yes. I typed while I was taxiing and that slipped through.

I know what to do, I already have two of those .BGLs marked off from previous updates.

[IanHarrison 522]

1 hour ago, AnkH said:

Well, as long as 3rd party developers do not make the update of the scenery component due to this single fix mandatory, I will also not change anything than the client. To much hassle of breaking everything, as this ORBX Central story is not entirely fixed yet...

Yes, such a problem that after my update, I ran ORBX Central to see if anything had changed and it was already busy updating (I think Global vectors). Everything was still the same (working) nothing needed to be re-installed.

Maybe I am just lucky.

[Twenty6 692]

6 minutes ago, IanHarrison said:

I know what to do, I already have two of those .BGLs marked off from previous updates

OK, no problem. You mentioned also updating Scenery which should have put the traffic BGLs back in there.

[Christopher Low 5,352]

I run my AI planes @ 100%, and Manchester is packed full of them early in the morning. However, I will do a bit of testing at various times of the day. I do recall that this was a problem in the past (with the earlier version of UK2000 Manchester Xtreme), but I have not seen a single AI plane land on 23L for a long time on my PC.

For the record, when I stated that "I do not have a problem with take offs on 23L and landings on 23R", I was referring to the fact that all take offs are on 23L and all landings are on 23R.

Edited September 27, 2019 by Christopher Low

[B777ER 2,485]

Client only for me. Don't mess with the other stuff unless it is a full reinstall. Has PTA been updated?

[G-YMML1 582]

29 minutes ago, Christopher Low said:

I run my AI planes @ 100%, and Manchester is packed full of them early in the morning. However, I will do a bit of testing at various times of the day. I do recall that this was a problem in the past (with the earlier version of UK2000 Manchester Xtreme), but I have not seen a single AI plane land on 23L for a long time on my PC.

For the record, when I stated that "I do not have a problem with take offs on 23L and landings on 23R", I was referring to the fact that all take offs are on 23L and all landings are on 23R.

There is a relatively quick and easy way to test this theory assuming that you know how to deal with ADE.

1. Open EGCC with ADE and mark 5R open for LNDG closed for T/O. Set 23L open for both T/O and LDNG

2. Then select 5L/23R and mark 5L as T/O = YES, LNDG = NO and for 23R T/O = NO and LDNG = YES.

3. Click on save and compile

4. Go to P3D, set AI to 0%, select EGCC and change wind direction to 50 degrees. Then set AI from 0 to 100% and watch. In pre-HF2 situation AI would try to land on both 5L and 5R even though 5L is closed for LDNG and take-off from 5R. In after-HF2 situations AI should take-off from 5L only and land on 5R only. With a wind to set to 230 degrees, AI should both land and t/o on 23L and land only to 23R 

Edited September 27, 2019 by G-YMML1

[Christopher Low 5,352]

I have tweaked/modified/built hundreds of AFD files in Airport Design Editor, so I know how to use it. However, I wonder if those landings and take offs work better at certain specific wind directions relative to the orientation of the runways? I keep forgetting that I almost always used a fixed wind direction of 270 degrees for my flights, and also completely calm weather.

Edited September 27, 2019 by Christopher Low

[Kilo60 660]

Is the “Client” installer working?

 

Currently clicking on it but nothing is being downloaded from LM site after logging in and navigating to the client from the downloads section...

 

Is it down or just busy?

[simbol 5,819]

4 minutes ago, Kilo60 said:

Is the “Client” installer working?

 

Currently clicking on it but nothing is being downloaded from LM site after logging in and navigating to the client from the downloads section...

 

Is it down or just busy?

I am downloading it now.. so must be your connection?

S.

[garydpoole 183]

10 hours ago, Ray Proudfoot said:

Very surprised no-one has mentioned THE big change in this fix. The ability to control take-off / landing for each end of a runway. So finally, 05R at EGCC can be set to landing only and 23L can be set to take-off only. That 'bug' has been around since FSX days. Thank you L-M! 😁

Other airports can also benefit from this such as LEMD Madrid Barajas.

I may be missing something here, but isn't this something that could always be done with ADE ? For example, a small runway fix with ADE on LEPA will ensure 24L/ 06L are used for landings and 24R/06R are used for takeoffs, depending upon wind direction.

[Michael Moe 495]

8 minutes ago, garydpoole said:

I may be missing something here, but isn't this something that could always be done with ADE ? For example, a small runway fix with ADE on LEPA will ensure 24L/ 06L are used for landings and 24R/06R are used for takeoffs, depending upon wind direction.

Is this to be updated by add-ons or am i supposed to do this manually ???

Michael Moe