Four seasons?

[solwell1 43]

I have not heard if four distinct seasons will be depicted yet.  Has anyone heard this mentioned?

[FDEdev 955]

AFAIK there will be no seasons upon release. Not being able to fly e.g. in the Austrian, French or Swiss alps, or Alaska in winter is a real downer 😞

Edited October 1, 2019 by FDEdev

[dal330200 216]

I just posted about this too, sorry for the duplicate.  Yeah, I want seasons.  X-enviro in X-plane is the only real game in town on that platform that looks good (but it's still in development), P3D has seasonal tiles that are not dynamic.  I really hope that MSFS comes up with something better. 

[Superdelphinus 718]

I read a few times that it’s number 1 or 2 in their priority list now so no doubt (in my mind at least) that visible seasons will be in there at launch - it looks like the actual weather part of it already is. One downside to the weather as it is at the moment that I read or watched somewhere, was that it currently operates in ‘squares’ and could jolt from one set of conditions to another if you were crossing over between squares, but I think they are still working on it. 

[Dominique_K 10,133]

Again, we must must define what a season is. I see three main parameters : 

- the variation of the height of the sun in the sky over the year.

- real-time, seasonal weather including precipitations and fog. 

-  how much the ground reflects the weather : snow accumulation, ice, drought etc.  

The first two will be implemented with a notable improvement of the atmospheric light. The third is still in doubt at that stage. This is at least what I understand.

[LHookins 3,102]

1 minute ago, Superdelphinus said:

One downside to the weather as it is at the moment that I read or watched somewhere, was that it currently operates in ‘squares’ and could jolt from one set of conditions to another if you were crossing over between squares, but I think they are still working on it. 

Snow accumulation in FSX/P3D is by squares.  The actual weather transitions the way you'd expect.  Usually. 🙂

Hook

[Sticky 267]

Obviously we're all guessing here as there is no official statement. However, everything points to no at the moment. Not only have they not showing any winter images but they only mentioned rain as precipitation.... 

[Superdelphinus 718]

Yes this was specifically on the weather depiction in the sky I think. 

[Superdelphinus 718]

Just now, Sticky said:

Obviously we're all guessing here as there is no official statement. However, everything points to no at the moment. Not only have they not showing any winter images but they only mentioned rain as precipitation.... 

It is definitely not in the current build, but they confirmed they are working on it and it is one of the highest priority areas so I think it’s safe to assume it will be in when it goes gold. 

[Bert Pieke 7,584]

5 minutes ago, domkle said:

Again, we must must define what a season is. I see three main parameters : 

- the variation of the height of the sun in the sky over the year.

- real-time, seasonal weather including precipitations and fog. 

-  how much the ground reflects the weather : snow accumulation, ice, drought etc.  

The first two will be implemented with a notable improvement of the atmospheric light. The third is still in doubt at that stage. This is at least what I understand.

Add:   - colour of vegetation and leaves on/off trees..

[Deleted 250]

and if possible with hail 😉

[Kilo60 660]

WHAT A REAL BUMMER...!!!!

 

I could care less about the orange leaves BUT:

 

This means no more ICING EFFECTS on any AC!!!

 

De-Icing now will be useless... They might as well remove Piot Heat and all deicing panel switches from all MSFS AC and Add-on ACV cause we will be simming in an alternate universe where the effects of cold weather and icing doesn't exist!

 

What a step down from realism!

 

 

 

 

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Edited October 1, 2019 by Kilo60

[F737MAX 5,552]

2 minutes ago, Pitbull2504 said:

and if possible with hail 😉

Seasons are partly depicted by weather and it ain't weather, unless:

[Alan_A 1,650]

40 minutes ago, FDEdev said:

AFAIK there will be no seasons upon release. Not being able to fly e.g. in the Austrian, French or Swiss alps, or Alaska in winter is a real downer 😞

Has anyone from the development team actually said this?   Not trying for snark, instead just wondering if there’s something I missed. 

Short of an official statement, I’m going to continue to bet that we’ll see seasons eventually in a future build. The fact that they’re not there yet might suggest that they’re being done procedurally - which would be a big advantage, because that way it might be possible to match the ground conditions to the weather. That’s something I’d like to see - on my home turf in the Mid-Atlantic, we sometimes have major snowfalls, but for much of the winter the ground is snowless. Right now, I often set the clock back to November 30 to kill the hard winter textures. A sim that could read and then build the current conditions would be a big step forward. 

Of course all of that is speculation on my part, so I’d be interested to find out what if anything we actually know.  

[Dominique_K 10,133]

 

23 minutes ago, LHookins said:

Snow accumulation in FSX/P3D is by squares.  The actual weather transitions the way you'd expect.  Usually. 🙂

Hook

I hope not to see anymore the "shotgun" transition between snowy and non snowy ground areas we have now.