Programming joysticks/throttles, please ASOBO finish the job !

[Dominique_K 10,138]

Don't give us yet again the FSX/P3D Settings-Controls interface where we cannot program easily, out the box, the curves and all the buttons/switches of our sometimes expensive gears like the Warthog. 

Take a leaf out of DCS book. Everything is accessible and easy to understand (well, almost).

 

[smoothchat 99]

Actually I would go one further and ask them to take a look at how Elite Dangerous does it.

ED allows you to assign combined keystrokes or button presses to functions.

eg : Joystick Button 5 lowers the flaps.  Hold joystick button 4, and then hold 5 , raises the flaps.

Button 4 is like a mode toggle.

By allowing the user to define combinations, the user can define their own "mode" switches, even multiple mode switches.

A 10 button joystick could produce more than 30 button combinations to do 30 different things.

Edited October 16, 2019 by smoothchat

[Noooch 1,084]

7 minutes ago, smoothchat said:

Actually I would go one further and ask them to take a look at how Elite Dangerous does it.

ED allows you to assign combined keystrokes or button presses to functions.

eg : Joystick Button 5 lowers the flaps.  Hold joystick button 4, and then hold 5 , raises the flaps.

Button 4 is like a mode toggle.

By allowing the user to define combinations, the user can define their own "mode" switches, even multiple mode switches.

A 10 button joystick could produce more than 30 button combinations to do 30 different things.

That would be very usefull!

 

[snglecoil 1,828]

Yes! This! So much all of this! Pretty please...with a cherry on top!

[Claviateur 789]

X-Plane 11 controllers / keyboard and mouse GUI is nicely done too in terms of usability. 

[Greazer 1,320]

13 minutes ago, Claviateur said:

X-Plane 11 controllers / keyboard and mouse GUI is nicely done too in terms of usability. 

Ditto. X Plane nails some things. Do it like XP.

[smoothchat 99]

7 hours ago, Greazer said:

Ditto. X Plane nails some things. Do it like XP.

With the ability to assign multiple simultaneous button presses to get the most from our controllers.

[C2615 319]

XP is a disaster IMO, I can't assign my throttle1 for ENG1\3 and throttle2 for ENG2\4, that make me needed to change setting between 2 and 4 (and it even had B52 come with....) engine aircraft. And that couldn't be done easily as well, since there is no sepreation profile for different aircraft, with different add-ons use different input for simular AP functions, and Helio use different collectivepiston than throttle.... and no combination as well....

FSUIPC with the editing in FSUIPCx.ini is still the best I think, It's still decent and easy to use without text editing, like axis range to button,profile per aircraft, and multi-assignment, but with modification in .ini, you can add ablity to condition based on offset, or combination based on key sequence and many more...

Eg. I have a 4-way "street fighter joystick" wired up in buttons use for Flaps(Mainly for sequential gearbox in racing game), in XP, I can only do Up-Down for flaps recation and extention with no safty, some other game, or with things like joy-to-key, I can get left+up for retraction and left+down for extention, But with FSIUPC, I can secure it must be left first then up or down to function, not the other way around!

Eg2. With my saitek throttle, I can set the "REVERSER" notch button for idle reverse, then while holding the notch, press&hold the button under(B2), I can get full reverse, upon release button2, goes back to idle, then relase notch, retract reverser. If throttle2 was not set to the Idle notch, press&hold button2 will not set the ENG2 and ENG3(T1 for ENG1 and 4) to full reverse. That's something I couldn't done in XP or default FS input.

 

My point is, make a esay to use GUI is great, but still left the room for more fancy "coding" (not that hard in FSUIPC as actual coding though) is very necessary!

[peroni 541]

x-plane joystick setup is nearly perfect in my opinion much better than FSX or P3D (IMHO)
Only things missing are action on button release and native support for saitek/logitech radio and switch panels and extend the usability of trim wheel to interact with autopilot (all things that can be achieved via 3rd party plugins)

Edited October 17, 2019 by peroni