My thrill is to "sit" in the captain´s seat in VR and and learn to master them all:

- FSL A320

- PMDG 737/777/747

- Leonardo MD-82

- TFDi 717

They are all good and it is a joy to experience the different approaches how to manage a flight: the 737/777/747 has Level Change, the A320 has Managed Climb/Descent. The 737/777/747 CDU has Dep/Arr and Hold pages, the A320 does the same using Lateral Revision. The 717 is a descendant of the MD-82 and stands somehow inbetween. Also, I have these two:

- Majestic Dash 8 Q400

- Aerosoft CRJ 700/900

There handling has many similarities. Without having Autothrust, they are both quite demanding.

My advice: if you want to spend the money, get them all.

Michael

Edited November 14, 20196 yr by michaelth

4 hours ago, Alaaar said:

An Airbus and a Boeing's in concerns to the cockpit they're different and feels different as well, I have seen both in real life, with an Airbus it's more clean futuristic look with spaceship type of industrial/metallic textures, with a Boeing excluding the 787 it has more classic rough or aged textures to it, so what you get in FSL is perfect to me. The FSL if you like, there's other things that you might dislike such as the impact on performance and the way the start a flight option work, then lots of external modules loads automatically, but the degree of realizme is substantial and more than anything produces by PMDG so far. On the scale,the Maddog is closer to FSL than PMDG.

Ok I get this but in all the videos I’ve watched the Airbus VC looks really flat and 2d, especially the center console and FMC’s.  Is this how it is in the sim?

9 minutes ago, Kilo60 said:

Ok I get this but in all the videos I’ve watched the Airbus VC looks really flat and 2d, especially the center console and FMC’s.  Is this how it is in the sim?

No I don't think so it's very well 3D 

I bought the NGXu, but only really because I could apply the 100 bucks to the MSFS which I knew I would buy later.  I would love to buy the A320 right now, but I'm not sure I'd pull the trigger without a similar deal from FSL.  If they had a deal today where 100 would be applied to their next MSFS A320 I'd certainly buy it right now.  

@micstatic - Same here.  I get that people are really passionate about the A320 and I'd love to check it out, but I'm reluctant to commit that much money to a P3D-only product right now.  I don't necessarily need the promise of a discount, but it'd be comforting to know that FSL means to develop for MSFS.  That way, I could gamble on an upgrade path.  I'm thinking of doing that with the upcoming next-gen CRJ from Aerosoft - they haven't said there'll be an MSFS version, but they do say that as a company they're making plans for MSFS, and their history of discounted upgrades is good, so I'd be more willing to take that risk.

In fairness, FSL may not know themselves whether they're going to develop for MSFS, or what the path forward will be. 

Hoping for everybody concerned that the period of uncertainty won't go on too long.

I can’t imagine FSLabs would not develop for MSFS...what else will they do when the bulk of their customer base moves to MSFS as their primary sim?

8 hours ago, regis9 said:

I can’t imagine FSLabs would not develop for MSFS

I think that's true.  I wouldn't expect them to be all that fast out of the gate, though - they're typically a bit slower to deliver updates, P3D new version patches, etc.  Which isn't at all surprising given their perfectionism and the complexity of what they're modeling.  Chances are I'll get there when they do - or maybe I'll jump in on the P3D v4 version and hope for the best.  It could happen...

On 11/10/2019 at 9:57 AM, Ahhmad said:

...-i want to Fly next to america also in Europa, (LHR, FRA, LIS, BCN). With the 737 I could fly only 1 of for me 6 available routes, with the a320 I could fly realistic from every airport i bought to every airport i bought.

-In america (IAD, BOS, MIA, SFO) i could fly with both aircrafts from every airport to every airport i bought.

Can someone tell me wich aircraft is generally better and then wich is better for my uses? 🙂

As far as the best aircraft for the (American) routes and airports that you listed, I think that it would just come down to which airplane you prefer. If you look at some of the major US airlines' schedules, you'll see that it is not uncommon to see one airline flying A320s between 2 destinations while other airlines are flying the same route with 737s. I use Flightaware to get the flights that I want to fly, and I regularly fly routes in a 737 using the same cruise altitudes, routes, and flight times listed for the A320s. Works great every time.  

Edited November 17, 20196 yr by MDFlier

On 11/14/2019 at 6:46 PM, michaelth said:

My thrill is to "sit" in the captain´s seat in VR and and learn to master them all:

- FSL A320

- PMDG 737/777/747

- Leonardo MD-82

- TFDi 717

They are all good and it is a joy to experience the different approaches how to manage a flight: the 737/777/747 has Level Change, the A320 has Managed Climb/Descent. The 737/777/747 CDU has Dep/Arr and Hold pages, the A320 does the same using Lateral Revision. The 717 is a descendant of the MD-82 and stands somehow inbetween. Also, I have these two:

- Majestic Dash 8 Q400

- Aerosoft CRJ 700/900

There handling has many similarities. Without having Autothrust, they are both quite demanding.

My advice: if you want to spend the money, get them all.

Michael

There’s nothing like sitting in the virtual cockpit, but when you’re doing it in the A320 its a stutterfest. Maybe it’s the coding, maybe it’s the malware, who knows. 😊

Performance figures for the NGXu seem similar to the FSL bird, so PMDG seem to have finally managed to code a potato. 

Now, the Maddog and the Q400 actually fly smoothly in VR. The Q400 in particular is a work of art as a VR craft. Well done, Majestic.

1 hour ago, OzWhitey said:

 Maybe it’s the coding, maybe it’s the malware,

Really! 

I've seen you put down the FSl many time do to the fact you use VR, now you going down to a level that pathetic.

If you think the smiley made it a joke your "joke" was ill conceived and very bad taste. But not surprising from you.

Edited November 22, 20196 yr by Nyxx

737. Plus FSL like installing Malware on your computer.

Edited November 22, 20196 yr by VBHB

Tuff choice to make between two mastodonts in flightsim . I am happy having them all on rather old hardware.

I am a Boeing simmer with current CPflight B737EL MCP ,Radio,NAVs and transponder etc. hardware . Throttletek 737 and VRInsight CDUII.

Hopefully they get driver updated (i will find a solution to the VRInsight CDUII (better than the simserver Remote CDU which is also great btw.)  Right now the frame around the undocked FMC is troubling me (keypad works great in the NGXU)

If i have to put my fingers on one it would be the FSL A320/319

Michael Moe

Edited November 22, 20196 yr by Michael Moe

1 hour ago, VBHB said:

737. Plus FSL like installing Malware on your computer.

What maleware?

 

First I’ve heard of this...Please explain?

2 hours ago, Nyxx said:

Really! 

I've seen you put down the FSl many time do to the fact you use VR, now you going down to a level that pathetic.

If you think the smiley made it a joke your "joke" was ill conceived and very bad taste. But not surprising from you.

Hi Nyxx,

I’m giving my opinion on the A320. This particular comment was made in a light-hearted spirit, but seeing you’ve done a dummy spit again, I’ll expand on this point. I honestly don’t care much for the plane. It’s one of the few purchases I’ve made that I regret, given the price.

Performance is famously poor and on release it was a buggy mess if - yes - you like to fly in VR (I’m not sure if your reading comprehension was good enough to pick up on this, but I was responding to a poster who was talking about VR).
 

Personally, I don’t care too much about the malware issue, but that’s a very big deal for some others. 
 

Now, every time I post some comment on this plane - which I’m guessing I last did six months ago - you turn up and make some rude, immature post directed at me. There seems to be a fan club of you and about two other guys who consider it heresy to speak ill of the plane.

You’ve got your opinion, I’ve got mine. There’s plenty of others here who like the ‘bus. I’m fine with that.

Cheers!

P.S. 

.  <—- do you see that? That’s a single tear, shed because you don’t approve of my opinion.

 

24 minutes ago, Kilo60 said:

What maleware?

 

First I’ve heard of this...Please explain?

Ha, you have not been paying attention then! I won’t drag it up again here, but if you google it you’ll find a lot of reporting on the matter.

A very rare example of the world of flightsim making the general news. 😳

Fwiw, that saga doesn’t greatly impact my opinion of the plane.