Wanting to buy RXP GTN 750/650 but not sure (JF PA-28R)?

[bofhlusr 453]

....if it will work and fit perfectly with this plane (PA-28R Arrow):

https://www.justflight.com/product/pa28r-turbo-arrow-iii-iv

The description of the plane mentions full integration with the F1 version only but I understand the web site description may not be up to date.

Can someone confirm full integration between RXP's version and the plane?  Thank you.

[Bert Pieke 7,584]

I do not own the plane.. but if a F1 GTN is supported, you can quite easily replace it by the equivalent RXP GTN, using the provided app that can be started from the FSX/P3D Add-on menu.

[bofhlusr 453]

Yes, F1 is supported.  Is it going to end up with full integration (no extraneous bezels)?  And if yes, will this be true to other planes  which have F1 GTN support?  Thank you.

[fppilot 4,360]

7 hours ago, oneleg said:

Can someone confirm full integration between RXP's version and the plane?  Thank you.

Did you do a Google search?  From JustFlight's own support pages.  (look for the text I changed to blue)
The change log is for xPlane.  I have to imagine they supported the FSX/P3D version at an earlier date.  I just did not spend the time to look for it also.

Like all other good things... That does not necessarily mean it will be effortless. 

 

PA-28R Turbo Arrow III/IV XP Changelog
Modified on: Wed, 13 Feb, 2019 at 3:23 PM

Latest Update: 13/02/2019

The below log shows all updates for this product since release:

v1.6

- Added VR magnet attach point for XPad

- Made spark plug fouling rate and Vapour lock configurable via manifest.json file.

- Hide Yoke system now responds to X-Plane's default command

- Optimised performance.

- Fixed case sensitivity issue for Linux

- Removed default wing condensation effects. (They're excessive by default).

- Support for rain effects (requires free 3rd party "librain" plugin)

- Improved VR support (VR pop-up support, cleaned up yoke, more supported knobs, etc.)

- Improved sounds and sound effects

- Upgraded to SASL 3.5.1, which now includes pop-out window support

- Compatibility with the latest RealityXP GTN 750 features

- Improved flight dynamics for XP11.30

- Separated out checklist into ‘manifest.json’ file, so it's now end-user editable

- Moved cockpit.obj file into ‘objects’ folder, for neater top directory

- Numerous optimisations and improvements

[Bert Pieke 7,584]

On 12/20/2019 at 8:51 PM, oneleg said:

Yes, F1 is supported.  Is it going to end up with full integration (no extraneous bezels)?  And if yes, will this be true to other planes  which have F1 GTN support?  Thank you.

You can choose a NO_BEZEL option for the virtual cockpit...

I have not found an airplane with F1 GTN support that does not work equally well with an RXP GTN..  as a matter of fact, that is all I use at present.

[bofhlusr 453]

18 hours ago, fppilot said:

Did you do a Google search?  From JustFlight's own support pages.  (look for the text I changed to blue)
The change log is for xPlane.  I have to imagine they supported the FSX/P3D version at an earlier date.  I just did not spend the time to look for it also.

Like all other good things... That does not necessarily mean it will be effortless. 

- Compatibility with the latest RealityXP GTN 750 features

@Bert Pieke

Just the info I was looking for. I wish JustFlight would update their web page. I try to keep my assumptions to a minimum.  More so since the name of the game is no returns or refunds on purchases. Thank you both.

[wyman_hd 232]

On 12/20/2019 at 6:34 PM, fppilot said:

Did you do a Google search?  From JustFlight's own support pages.  (look for the text I changed to blue)
The change log is for xPlane.  I have to imagine they supported the FSX/P3D version at an earlier date.  I just did not spend the time to look for it also.

Like all other good things... That does not necessarily mean it will be effortless. 

 

PA-28R Turbo Arrow III/IV XP Changelog
Modified on: Wed, 13 Feb, 2019 at 3:23 PM

Latest Update: 13/02/2019

The below log shows all updates for this product since release:

v1.6

- Added VR magnet attach point for XPad

- Made spark plug fouling rate and Vapour lock configurable via manifest.json file.

- Hide Yoke system now responds to X-Plane's default command

- Optimised performance.

- Fixed case sensitivity issue for Linux

- Removed default wing condensation effects. (They're excessive by default).

- Support for rain effects (requires free 3rd party "librain" plugin)

- Improved VR support (VR pop-up support, cleaned up yoke, more supported knobs, etc.)

- Improved sounds and sound effects

- Upgraded to SASL 3.5.1, which now includes pop-out window support

- Compatibility with the latest RealityXP GTN 750 features

- Improved flight dynamics for XP11.30

- Separated out checklist into ‘manifest.json’ file, so it's now end-user editable

- Moved cockpit.obj file into ‘objects’ folder, for neater top directory

- Numerous optimisations and improvements

The FSX/P3D version does not have native RealityXP GTN functionality. 
see here:
https://support.justflight.com/support/solutions/articles/17000066600-turbo-arrow-fsx-p3d-changelog

The last update to the Turbo Arrow III/IV was in July of 2017. 

Edited January 16, 2020 by arwasairl

[Bert Pieke 7,584]

This does say:

F1 GTN and GNS integration in the virtual cockpit (F1 GTN/GNS sold separately)

https://www.justflight.com/product/pa28r-turbo-arrow-iii-iv

SO, if the F1 GTN is supported, the RXP unit should work also.. at least from my experience with their TB20 Tobago.

Edited January 16, 2020 by RXP

[wyman_hd 232]

18 hours ago, Bert Pieke said:

This does say:

F1 GTN and GNS integration in the virtual cockpit (F1 GTN/GNS sold separately)

https://www.justflight.com/product/pa28r-turbo-arrow-iii-iv

SO, if the F1 GTN is supported, the RXP unit should work also.. at least from my experience with their TB20 Tobago.

Yes but the buttons will not work unless if you use the F1 to RXP buttons panel mods. The PA28 does not natively support the RXP like the FlySimware L35 or A2A C172.

Edited January 16, 2020 by RXP

[Bert Pieke 7,584]

4 minutes ago, arwasairl said:

Yes but the buttons will not work unless if you use the F1 to RXP buttons panel mods. The PA28 does not natively support the RXP like the FlySimware L35 or A2A C172.

Agreed, but that can be touched up... all the information is in this forum (and there are always users willing to help..)

[cannow 61]

I have tried to install in the arrow everything appears to work but nothing shows on gauge .pop up window works done all my real air fleet but missing some knowledge on the arrow can some kind person  help. Beginner using this gauge.

[Bert Pieke 7,584]

7 minutes ago, cannow said:

I have tried to install in the arrow everything appears to work but nothing shows on gauge .pop up window works done all my real air fleet but missing some knowledge on the arrow can some kind person  help. Beginner using this gauge.

OK, one step at a time...

The RXP GTN works in your RealAir aircraft, check?

In the Arrow, the pop window works, check?

But the VC gauge is missing? Is dark? 

Can you post the contents of the Vcockpit sections from the Arrow panel.cfg file?

 

[cannow 61]

Thanks bert will do tomorrow evening but correct on all fronts 

[cannow 61]

Config below 

/ Just Flight PA28R P3Dv4 - SP1 (Flight1 GTN configuration)

Spoiler

[Window Titles]
Window00=GPS
Window01=KN62A (screen)
Window02=Towbar
Window03=Checklist
Window04=Flight Computer
Window05=Panel Selector
Window06=Panel Selector Arrow
Window07=Timer (screen)
Window08=GPS 100 (screen)
Window09=Reality XP GTN Unit 1 (managed)
Window10=Reality XP GTN Unit 2 (managed)
Window11=Flight1 GTN Stack - DO NOT MODIFY
Window12=Start Checklist


[VIEWS]
VIEW_FORWARD_DIR=2.000, 0.000, 0.000

//--------------------------------------------------------
[Window00]
Background_color=0,0,0 
size_mm=456,378
position=8
visible=0
ident=50
window_size=0.5

gauge00=rxpGTN!GTN_750_1, 0, 0,456,378

//--------------------------------------------------------

[Window01]
size_mm=865,172
window_size= 0.60, 0.20
position=7
visible=0
ident=800
no_luminous=1
zorder=1
     
gauge00=JF_PA28R!KN62A,     0,0,865,172

//--------------------------------------------------------

[Window02]
size_mm=285,133
window_size= 0.20, 0.20
position=7
visible=0
ident=1000
no_luminous=1
zorder=1
      
gauge00=JF_PA28R!Towbar,     0,0,285,133

//--------------------------------------------------------

[Window03]
size_mm=454,700
window_size= 0.25, 0.70
position=5
visible=0
ident=1200
no_luminous=1
zorder=15
type=special

gauge00=JF_PA28R!Checklist,     0,0,454,700

//--------------------------------------------------------

[Window04]
size_mm=450,450
window_size= 0.25, 0.70
position=5
visible=0
ident=1400
no_luminous=1
zorder=15

gauge00=JF_PA28R!FlightComp,     0,0,450,450

//--------------------------------------------------------

[Window05]
size_mm=200,69
window_size= 0.14, 0.09
window_pos= 0.0, 0.02
position=0
visible=0
ident=2600
no_luminous=1
zorder=100
type=special

gauge00=JF_PA28R!Panel_Selector,     0,0,200,69

//--------------------------------------------------------

[Window06]
size_mm=31,38
window_size= 0.025, 0.04
window_pos= 0.0, 0.02
position=0
visible=0
ident=2800
no_luminous=1
zorder=100
type=special
      
gauge00=JF_PA28R!Panel_Selector_Arrow,     0,0,31,38


//--------------------------------------------------------

[Window07]
size_mm=256,90
//window_size= 0.60, 0.20
position=7
visible=0
ident=1234
no_luminous=1
zorder=1
     
gauge00=JF_PA28R!AstroTechTimer,     0,0,256,90

//--------------------------------------------------------

[Window08]
size_mm=347,95
window_size= 0.40, 0.17
position=7
visible=0
ident=1235
no_luminous=1
zorder=1
     
gauge00=JF_PA28R!GPS100,  0,0,347,95

//--------------------------------------------------------

[Window09]
Background_color=0,0,0
size_mm=937,887
ident=14401
visible=0
zorder=99
gauge00=rxpGTN!GTN_750_1, 0, 0,937,887,NO_BEZEL
window_pos= 0.660, 0.160
window_size= 0.340, 0.580

//--------------------------------------------------------

[Window10]
Background_color=0,0,0
size_mm=937,390
ident=14403
visible=0
gauge00=rxpGTN!GTN_725_2, 0, 0,937,390,NO_BEZEL
window_pos= 0.660, 0.740
window_size= 0.340, 0.260
zorder=99

//--------------------------------------------------------

[Window11]
size_mm=255,800
Position= 2
window_size= 0.058, 0.243
visible=1
ident=14400
zorder=100
gauge00=F1GTN!GTNStack,  0,0,255,870

//--------------------------------------------------------

[Window12]
size_mm=500,1000
window_size= 0.25, 0.90
position=7
visible=0
ident=1245
no_luminous=1
zorder=1
      
gauge00=JF_PA28R!StartChecklist,     0,0,500,1000

//--------------------------------------------------------

[Vcockpit01]
Background_color=0,0,0 
size_mm=512,512
visible=1
pixel_size=512,512
texture=$test

gauge00=JF_PA28R!SystemWatch,     0,0,1024,1024
gauge01=jf_sound!jf_sound,  0,1,1,1
gauge02=JF_PA28R!JF_PA28R,  0,1,1,1
gauge03=JF_PA28R!JF_PA28R_INT,  0,1,1,1

//--------------------------------------------------------

[Vcockpit02]
Background_color=0,0,0 
size_mm=512,512
visible=1
pixel_size=512,512
texture=$KN62

gauge00=JF_PA28R!KN62A,  0,0,421,88

//--------------------------------------------------------

[Vcockpit03]
Background_color=0,0,0 
size_mm=512,512
visible=1
pixel_size=512,512
texture=$GPS100

gauge00=JF_PA28R!GPS100,  0,0,347,95

//--------------------------------------------------------

[Vcockpit04]
Background_color=0,0,0 
size_mm=256,256
visible=1
pixel_size=256,256
texture=$Yoke

gauge00=JF_PA28R!AstroTechTimer,     0,0,256,90

//--------------------------------------------------------

[Vcockpit05]
size_mm=1024,1024
pixel_size=1024,1024
texture=$GTN650
background_color=0,0,0

gauge00=F1GTN!GTN650VC, 0,0,677,297,UNIT1
gauge01=JF_PA28R!GTN, 1,1,1,1

//--------------------------------------------------------

[Vcockpit06]
size_mm=1024,1024
pixel_size=1024,1024
texture=$GTN750
background_color=0,0,0

gauge00=F1GTN!GTN750VC, 0,0,677,794,UNIT1

//--------------------------------------------------------



[Default View]
X=0
Y=0
SIZE_X=8192
SIZE_Y=3500


Day=255,255,255
Night=255,255,255
Luminous=201,64,64

  

 

 

Edited May 29, 2020 by RXP

[Bert Pieke 7,584]

As you can tell by reading the Vcockpit lines, you have the F1 GTN installed in the panel (twice, one 650 and one 750).

Try this:

[Vcockpit03]
Background_color=0,0,0 
size_mm=512,512
visible=1
pixel_size=512,512
texture=$GPS100

//gauge00=JF_PA28R!GPS100,  0,0,347,95

....

//--------------------------------------------------------

[Vcockpit05]
size_mm=1024,1024
pixel_size=1024,1024
texture=$GTN650
background_color=0,0,0

//gauge00=F1GTN!GTN650VC, 0,0,677,297,UNIT1
gauge01=JF_PA28R!GTN, 1,1,1,1

//--------------------------------------------------------

[Vcockpit06]
size_mm=1024,1024
pixel_size=1024,1024
texture=$GTN750
background_color=0,0,0

gauge00=rxpGTN!GTN_750_1, 0,0,677,794,NO_BEZEL

 

Edited May 29, 2020 by Bert Pieke