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Intel CPU or AMD CPU? Confused on which next path to take

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Hi guys,

I am coming from i7-5820K OC to 4.5ghz with Quad DDR4 Memory.

It is time for me to start getting the parts for the next upgrade.  I am kinda confused with the new cpus from both camps.  Way too many options.  This time, I am even gonna go all high end as I need multiple M.2 Slots (each sim gets their own M.2 slot - I am aiming for 3 M.2 slots) - even if the motherboard has 2 M.2 (that is fine).  The AMD systems can do like 5 M.2 - omg.  I really want all these excellent features but which cpu helps these SIMS the most (this is why I hate legacy code in the sims - can never fully extract power properly)

Question is which path

i9-9900KS or AMD threadripper series - the only thing is that i9 clocks much higher than AMD threadripper

Which way to go?

What is disappointing is with DDR4 ram - the Intel systems for the above CPU mentioned have two way memory path and not quad path to fully maximize DDR4 - I am fine with it I guess.  I just want more Power!!! lol

 

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25 minutes ago, Skywolf said:

the only thing is that i9 clocks much higher than AMD threadripper

There's your answer right there.  P3D directly benefits from the fastest single-core performance you can manage for the all-important main thread.

M.2 is a form factor, not an electrical interface.  I think you're saying you want NVME (vs SATA) drives.  All NVME drives are M.2, but not all M.2 drives are NVME--there are also SATA III M.2 drives (and slots).

I think you'd be better off putting multiple sims on one or two larger SSDs than using separate discrete drives. 

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Thanks @w6kd & @Rob_Ainscough

Yes, I need all my sims on NVME drives.  My current system has one M.2.  It really helps on P3D and X-plane load times.

I will look at that motherboard - thanks

Yep - I can easily wait till April - will need to see how Intel makes 10nm CPUs 

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If you use X-Plane at all, with the imminent up-date to Vulkan, you may well benefit with the higher thread count of AMD.

I use AMD now before the up-date and I'm more than a happy chappy! 

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44 minutes ago, Rob_Ainscough said:

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Food for thought, get ready for 1-2 PT of global terrain data in a home in the near future ... but definitely wait for the Intel 10nm to see how it performs.

Cheers, Rob.

 

 

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1 hour ago, Rob_Ainscough said:

NVMe is definitely a good option, but I've found no difference in performance and/or load times using 9900K on any SSD/M.2/RAM Cache that can sustain 400MB/sec or higher.  Maybe that will change when CPU's and memory sub-systems get faster. 

Ditto on that.  Beyond a point, I think P3D is limited instead by the speed at which it processes the reams of data accessed during startup (e.g. fusion of mesh/textures/vector data) and not by storage throughput, and my experience supports the theory that currently a decent SATA III SSD can exceed that threshold handily.

 


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PFC yoke/throttle quad/pedals with custom Hall sensor retrofit, Thermaltake View 71 case, Stream Deck XL button box

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Portable Sys3 (P3Dv4/FSX/DCS): i9-9900K @ 5.0 Ghz, Noctua NH-D15, 32GB 3200/16, EVGA RTX3090, Dell S2417DG 24" GSync
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20 hours ago, Rob_Ainscough said:

If you can wait, Intel's 10nm CPUs (6,8,10 core) are supposed to arrive early 2020 (so before April is my guess).

@Rob_Ainscough

Thanks for the info. I thought Intel 10nm would not arrive that early. Can you link some info where I could read up more on that subject. 


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We could see the 400 series chipset this year at the E3 show possibly Z490 MB. 


 

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22 hours ago, Rob_Ainscough said:

This is one reference (dated Nov 2019):

https://wccftech.com/intel-10nm-desktop-cpus-arriving-early-2020/

I think AMD have forced Intel to change their plans a little.  About all that is certain is there will be a "Lake" involved 🙂

Cheers, Rob.

EDIT: we also have nVidia Ampere GPUs due out before April

EDIT: oh, and DDR5 motherboards this year (DDR5 6000Mhz)

Let's just pray that the "Lake" part doesn't change to "Net" anytime soon :unsure:


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380W TDP. Wow.

Cheers!


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