Flow items on Zibo 737 - X-Plane 11

[Kiwi0ne 1]

HI all! 

I am creating a very thorough checklist and flow checks for the Zibo mod under X-Plane, to be as close as possible to reality. 

There are a few items that the FO can't seem to be able to check:

1.Cross Feed Flow valve (close and open)

2.Mach Speed Warning Test 1 and 2 (press switches - sound feedback)

3.Flight Recorder Guard and Test Switch (press switch - sounds Feeback)

4.Window Heat Test (this passes for OVHT test only but FO keeps it in the test position and does not come back to normal)

5.Stall Warning Test (press switch - sound feedback)

These are all items in the preflight flow.

Any way to make them work?

 

Thank you!

 

 

[Kiwi0ne 1]

I am going to post in the "found something not working" forum

 

Please delete this.

 

[FS++ 707]

12 hours ago, Kiwi0ne said:

HI all! 

I am creating a very thorough checklist and flow checks for the Zibo mod under X-Plane, to be as close as possible to reality. 

There are a few items that the FO can't seem to be able to check:

1.Cross Feed Flow valve (close and open)

2.Mach Speed Warning Test 1 and 2 (press switches - sound feedback)

3.Flight Recorder Guard and Test Switch (press switch - sounds Feeback)

4.Window Heat Test (this passes for OVHT test only but FO keeps it in the test position and does not come back to normal)

5.Stall Warning Test (press switch - sound feedback)

These are all items in the preflight flow.

Any way to make them work?

 

Thank you!

 

 

Zibo mod is constantly changing and we have to adjust every time.

First, make sure you have latest MCE version and confirm issues are still there.

Which version of the aircraft are you on?

 

[Kiwi0ne 1]

Thank you for your support Gerald! 

I am using the latest Zibo mod 3.40.21  and using the latest MCE I believe, downloaded from the download page of MCE (1.5.1.4 I think it's the version) 

Also using Xplane 11.41. 

:) 

 

[Kiwi0ne 1]

Any new updates on this and the Zibo in general? We have reached vet. 3.4xxx and would be great to receive an update. The items posted in the first post are still not working.

[FS++ 707]

On 4/20/2020 at 1:46 AM, Kiwi0ne said:

HI all! 

I am creating a very thorough checklist and flow checks for the Zibo mod under X-Plane, to be as close as possible to reality. 

There are a few items that the FO can't seem to be able to check:

1.Cross Feed Flow valve (close and open)

It's missing a keyword ("fuel") so that he knows what you're referring to. "open fuel cross feed", "close fuel cross feed"

In the context of checklist, make sure the challenging line has both "fuel" and "cross feed" in it so he can check the fuel valve and not the cross bleed valve.

2.Mach Speed Warning Test 1 and 2 (press switches - sound feedback)

Should work. Issue here is that the command you'e using isn't part of the built-in ones. Try these

"check overspeed warning", "mach airspeed warning test"

There are many more variations. In general any request for testing something has the following format check_word_variation + whatever_needs_to_be_checked OR whatever_needs_to_be_checked + check_word_variation.

Example:

check fire detection

fire detection test

verify stall warning

stall warning test

3.Flight Recorder Guard and Test Switch (press switch - sounds Feeback)

Use "test cvr" or "cvr test"

4.Window Heat Test (this passes for OVHT test only but FO keeps it in the test position and does not come back to normal)

Not sure whether it's implemented. The window overheat detection is though.

5.Stall Warning Test (press switch - sound feedback)

Use "check stall warning", "test stall warning", etc..

These are all items in the preflight flow.

Any way to make them work?

In general, we do our best so users can have freedom of speech and not be coerced to say the exact trigger sentence.

It is possible to get Fo to accept any speech that comes to you naturally.

For instance "Mach Speed Warning Test 1 and 2" doesn't mean anything to him right now. But you can teach him to accept it as the equivalent of "check mach airspeed warning"

You would need to teach him that When you say something alien to him (in ANY language for that matter, not even English speech), you mean something he's trained to react to. Let me know if you want to explore that aspect of the app that is little advertised.

Worth keeping in mind, MCE is a fully interactive crew simulation, not a scripted adventure with silly instructions like "wait until minute M1", "say this exact sentence", then expect this. Speech reco wouldn't be fun that way

You can ask FO to perform what you want, when you want, in any order you like, and even using speech that comes naturally to you.

It's the closest you can get to "shared cockpit" (splitting tasks as you see fit) and be able to do that with 23 complex aircraft. No need to beg anyone to share a 4 hour session, where you get to do the most exciting bits and the other guy just there to retract flaps and gear.

May want to have a look at this too

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Zibo mod is constantly changing, therefore, from time to time, expect FO to lose ability to control the odd switch, until we are notified and fix it

Thank you!

 

 

You're welcome.

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[Kiwi0ne 1]

Hello! Thank you for your reply.

Unfortunately those commands don’t work still. No test are being performed despite trying different ways of saying it. 

same is valid for open fuel cross feed. It does not produce an action, and test cvr. 

Also, the copilot can't seem to be able to turn the battery off or on. 

EDIT: I have another problem: in a checklist I have the item 

[ ] Reverser one and two            --    Checked

MCE will just ask say what? Repeat, a few times, and then will say "the expected answer is checked" and go on. 

 

sorry to be a pain! 
 

 

Edited June 1, 2020 by Kiwi0ne

[Kiwi0ne 1]

Here's the preliminary preflight checklist i am trying to work with: the copilot just makes a mess.

[ ] P S E U and GPS lights            --    Checked 
[ ] Service Interphone                --    Off 
[ ] Reverser one and two            --    Checked 
[ ] EEC Switches                --    ON 
[ ] Passenger Oxygen                --    Guard Closed 
[ ] Landing gear indicator lights        --    Illuminated 
[ ] Flight recorder switch            --    Guard closed 
[ ] Transponder                    --    A L T 
[ ] Verify TCAS off                --    Checked 
[ ] Verify V speed off                --    Checked 
[ ] IRS off then on after thirty seconds    --    Completed 
[ ] Set Parking Brake                --    Set 
[ ] Oxygen                     --    Tested 
[ ] Receive ATIS                --    Completed 

[Kiwi0ne 1]

And these are the other checklists I am trying to make work:

____________________________________________________________________________
BEFORE START

[ ] Pins and Covers                --    Removed
[ ] Light Test                    --    Checked
[ ] Yaw Damper                    --    ON
[ ] Navigation Transfer and Display Switches    --    Normal
[ ] Fuel quantity                --    As required
[ ] Fuel Pumps                    --    ON
[ ] Cabin Utility and Galley Power        --    ON
[ ] Emergency Exits Lights            --    ARMED
[ ] Faster Belts                --    ON
[ ] Window Heat                    --    ON
[ ] Air Conditioning and pressurization        --    Bleed on, SET
[ ] Pressurization Mode Selector        --    AUTO
[ ] Flight Instruments                --    Cross checked
[ ] Autobrake                    --    RTO
[ ] Hydraulics                    --    Normal
[ ] Speedbrake                    --     Down detent
[ ] Parking Brake                --    Set
[ ] Stabilator Trim Cutout Switches        --    Normal
[ ] Wheel Well Fire Warning             --    Checked
[ ] Radios, Radar and Transponder        --    Set and Standby
[ ] Rudder and aileron trim             --    Free and zero
[ ] Engine Start Levers                --    Cutoff
[ ] Passenger Announcement            --    Complete
[ ] FMC and CDU preflight             --    Completed
[ ] Stabilator Trim                --    Set
[ ] EFB                        --    Stowed
[ ] Taxi and takeoff briefing             --    Completed
[ ] MCP                     --    Set
[ ] Takeoff speeds                 --    speeds set
[ ] Flight deck door                 --    Closed
[ ] Windows                     --    Locked
[ ] Air conditioning Packs            --    OFF
[ ] Anticollision Light                --    ON
[ ] Transponder                    --    ALT OFF

_____________________________________________________________________________
BEFORE TAXI

[ ] Generators             --    On
[ ] Probe heat             --    ON
[ ] Start Switches        --    Cont
[ ] Anti-ice             --    As required
[ ] Packs             --    AUTO
[ ] Engine Bleeds        --    ON
[ ] Isolation valve         --    AUTO
[ ] Flaps set for takeoff    --    Set            
[ ] Stabilizer Trim        --    Set
[ ] Autobrake             --    RTO
[ ] Start levers         --    Idle
[ ] Flight controls         --    Checked
[ ] Recall             --    Checked
[ ] Ground equipment         --    Clear

_____________________________________________________________________________
BEFORE TAKEOFF

[ ] Flaps             --    Set
[ ] Stabilizer trim         --    Set

_____________________________________________________________________________
AFTER TAKEOFF

[ ] Engine bleeds         --    ON
[ ] Packs             --    AUTO
[ ] Landing gear         --    UP and OFF
[ ] Flaps             --    UP, No lights

_____________________________________________________________________________
DESCENT

[ ] Pressurization         --    landing altitude set
[ ] Recall             --    Checked
[ ] Autobrake             --    As required
[ ] Landing data         --    set
[ ] Approach briefing         --    Completed

_____________________________________________________________________________
APPROACH

[ ] Altimeters             --    set 

_____________________________________________________________________________
LANDING

[ ] Engine start switches     --    Ignition
[ ] Speedbrake             --    ARMED
[ ] Landing gear         --    Down
[ ] Flaps             --    Set, Green light

_____________________________________________________________________________
SHUTDOWN

[ ] Fuel pumps             --    OFF
[ ] Electrical            --    ON
[ ] Fasten Belts        --    OFF
[ ] Window Heat            --    OFF
[ ] Probe heat             --    OFF
[ ] Anti ice            --    OFF
[ ] Electrical Hydraulics Pumps    --    OFF
[ ] Voice Recorder        --    AUTO
[ ] Packs            --    AUTO
[ ] Engine Bleeds        --    ON
[ ] APU Bleed            --    OFF
[ ] Start Swtiches        --    OFF
[ ] Autobrake            --     OFF
[ ] Speed brakes        --    Down detent
[ ] Hydraulic panel         --    Set
[ ] Flaps             --    UP, No lights
[ ] Parking brake         --    Set
[ ] Engine start levers     --    CUTOFF
[ ] Weather radar         --    Off
[ ] Cockpit Voice Recorder    --    OUT
[ ] Cockpit Door         --    Unlocked

_____________________________________________________________________________
SECURE

[ ] IRS Mode Selector        --    OFF
[ ] Cabin utility and Galley Power --     ON
[ ] Emergency exit lights     --    OFF
[ ] Trim Air            --    OFF
[ ] Window heat         --    OFF
[ ] Packs             --    OFF
[ ] APU or Ground Power        --    OFF
[ ] Battery            --     OFF

 

Edited June 1, 2020 by Kiwi0ne

[FS++ 707]

11 hours ago, Kiwi0ne said:

Hello! Thank you for your reply.

Unfortunately those commands don’t work still. No test are being performed despite trying different ways of saying it. 

same is valid for open fuel cross feed. It does not produce an action, and test cvr. 

Also, the copilot can't seem to be able to turn the battery off or on. 

EDIT: I have another problem: in a checklist I have the item 

[ ] Reverser one and two            --    Checked

MCE will just ask say what? Repeat, a few times, and then will say "the expected answer is checked" and go on. 

 

sorry to be a pain! 
 

 

Should be sorted this week. If I can manage to download it. I assume it's version 3. 42

Wish me luck.

Absolute nightmare to download the zibo mod. Multiple failures right after half or three quarters through the download 

[Kiwi0ne 1]

Thank you! I have never had a problem downloading the Zibo mod. 

Just copy the file into your Google Drive and then download it from there. 🙂 Alternatively you can use Zibo updater which makes it so much better!

[FS++ 707]

7 hours ago, Kiwi0ne said:

Thank you! I have never had a problem downloading the Zibo mod. 

Just copy the file into your Google Drive and then download it from there. 🙂 Alternatively you can use Zibo updater which makes it so much better!

Thanks for the tip regarding making a copy before downloading. I didn't know you needed a Google drive account.

Managed to get it this morning, relatively quickly, while the north Americans were sleeping.

 

[FS++ 707]

On 4/20/2020 at 1:46 AM, Kiwi0ne said:

HI all! 

I am creating a very thorough checklist and flow checks for the Zibo mod under X-Plane, to be as close as possible to reality. 

There are a few items that the FO can't seem to be able to check:

1.Cross Feed Flow valve (close and open)

2.Mach Speed Warning Test 1 and 2 (press switches - sound feedback)

3.Flight Recorder Guard and Test Switch (press switch - sounds Feeback)

4.Window Heat Test (this passes for OVHT test only but FO keeps it in the test position and does not come back to normal)

5.Stall Warning Test (press switch - sound feedback)

These are all items in the preflight flow.

Any way to make them work?

 

Thank you!

 

 

Should be sorted in very latest release

Un-install previous version via Windows Control panel.

Do not delete anything manually.

Download, unzip and run "InstallMCE" in order to get new version (V1.5.4.6) )installed.

[Kiwi0ne 1]

Awesome Gerald, thank you so much! Really appreciate your help. :) 

[FS++ 707]

On 6/3/2020 at 10:36 PM, Kiwi0ne said:

Awesome Gerald, thank you so much! Really appreciate your help. 🙂

You're welcome.

If anything breaks in the future, feel free to report it and we'll address it in a timely manner.

Just can't keep a tab on all fully supported aircraft update status (23 complex aircraft in X-Plane and 44 in FSX/Prepar3D/FS9 world so far). That's a lot, especially when you're not charging per aircraft.🙂